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3 things we like or respect about our opposing numbers

IlarMeilyr

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If you are a "liberal" or "progressive" or a "left winger" or some variation on that theme, then your "opposing number' would be conservatives or so-called "right wingers." And vice versa.

Like the old parlor game "gun to your head" the time has come to be bold and declarative. You cannot hate everything your opposing numbers stand for. Right? So, NAME the three things you most admire or respect or even share with your opposing numbers.

Like this:

I am a conservative. By conservative I do not mean 'social conservative' or some other adjective driven version of political conservatism. I mean a "conservative" in the sense that I believe we should adhere to the principles of a limited Constitutional Republic with allegiance to fiscal responsibility, the rule of law and an endorsement of the "civil society." Like that. As such, I generally disagree with the left wing side of the political spectrum. But, gun to my head, I can acknowledge some aspects of what we used to call "liberalism:"

1. The tendency of liberals to endorse the notion that we should become ever more determined to be as good as our Nation's historical promise. I reject the notion of "fundamental change," but kind of like changes that bring us closer to the old view of the promise of America.

2. I reject the notion that only liberals embrace principles of racial and sexual fairness, but I do admire their efforts to move us ever closer to the goal of being a fair and just society regardless of race or gender or gender identity.

3. I respect the modern American liberals' embrace of freedom of speech. I will not quibble too much on discussing when they fail to honor it themselves. The part I admire is the GENERAL notion that a free marketplace of ideas is a goal well worth trying to obtain.

Curious to see what others think. I was tempted to put this in a flame free zone, but the placement itself could lead to a derailment. So, I'm opting to put it in a more free-wheeling arena. I guess we'll see how that works out.
 

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Even LudNut will create threads that have nothing to do with politics. Unlike some of the Lefty Loonies around here.That's cool.

The only other thing I could admire about the Dark Side is if someone has a sense of humor. And several here do. :thup:
 
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I respect conservatives position on abortion. I don't think it can work, but I respect it

I respect their being a stopgap on spending and requiring a defense of all expenditures

Even though I am an atheist, I respect their religious values
 

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Gun to my head...I'm a dead man. I can't think of three.

1. Although the left only likes and supports those rights that they approve of, the gun to my head makes me say that I stand with them in keeping the government out of the bedroom.

2. ...........
 
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Gun to my head...I'm a dead man. I can't think of three.

1. Although the left only likes and supports those rights that they approve of, the gun to my head makes me say that I stand with them in keeping the government out of the bedroom.

2. ...........

I deem it appropriate to relent on that whole "gun to your head" thang.
 

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I can't think of a thing.

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"To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbors."
John Stuart Mill: Principles of Political Economy (1848), Book IV, Chapter VI, §3, p. 516.
 

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Liberals are smart. They are very successful in destroying the USA with their class warfare and lies. They took control of public education thus forming young minds actively such as demonizing american heritage, and passively such as omitting Constitutional studies, the real form of government in the USA, what is not "democracy" but a constitutional republic, thus gaining support from the under educated, brainwashed segment of population for their agenda. We all remember the modus operandi of "give me your children…" Forming young minds is not a new idea peculiar to liberals. It was employed successfully by the Ottoman Empire, communists and national socialists alike. It is historical and we find even Biblical reference to that point.
 

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IlarMeilyr

Liberals are smart. They are very successful in destroying the USA with their class warfare and lies. They took control of public education thus forming young minds actively such as demonizing american heritage, and passively such as omitting Constitutional studies, the real form of government in the USA, what is not "democracy" but a constitutional republic, thus gaining support from the under educated, brainwashed segment of population for their agenda. We all remember the modus operandi of "give me your children…" Forming young minds is not a new idea peculiar to liberals. It was employed successfully by the Ottoman Empire, communists and national socialists alike. It is historical and we find even Biblical reference to that point.

Most US school boards are under Conservative Control
 

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IlarMeilyr

Liberals are smart. They are very successful in destroying the USA with their class warfare and lies. They took control of public education thus forming young minds actively such as demonizing american heritage, and passively such as omitting Constitutional studies, the real form of government in the USA, what is not "democracy" but a constitutional republic, thus gaining support from the under educated, brainwashed segment of population for their agenda. We all remember the modus operandi of "give me your children…" Forming young minds is not a new idea peculiar to liberals. It was employed successfully by the Ottoman Empire, communists and national socialists alike. It is historical and we find even Biblical reference to that point.

Most US school boards are under Conservative Control
LOL where do you come up wit that tidbit LOL
Convincing evidence that RW will say anything at anytime to try and forward his narrative.
 

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I admire the wrong headed passion of the extreme right. They are headed in the wrong direction but nothing is going to stop them from going down that road as far and as fast as they can. That kind of dedication to a lost cause is admirable, albeit foolish.

The principle of holding government accountable is a sound one and has a lot of merit. That the extreme right applies it selectively is what I have a problem with but it is a good principle to have all the same.

Then there is the entertainment factor. The number of outright belly laughs that I have had at the expense of some of the extreme rightwing candidates is beyond counting. Hearing these bizarre statements coming from people who aspire to be leaders of this nation is the ultimate entertainment. So yes, I am grateful to the extreme right for putting forward some of the most amusing nutjobs to be found in the nation as their leaders.

/takes gun away from head...
 

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IlarMeilyr

Liberals are smart. They are very successful in destroying the USA with their class warfare and lies. They took control of public education thus forming young minds actively such as demonizing american heritage, and passively such as omitting Constitutional studies, the real form of government in the USA, what is not "democracy" but a constitutional republic, thus gaining support from the under educated, brainwashed segment of population for their agenda. We all remember the modus operandi of "give me your children…" Forming young minds is not a new idea peculiar to liberals. It was employed successfully by the Ottoman Empire, communists and national socialists alike. It is historical and we find even Biblical reference to that point.

Most US school boards are under Conservative Control
LOL where do you come up wit that tidbit LOL
Convincing evidence that RW will say anything at anytime to try and forward his narrative.

Why would school boards in red states be run by liberals?
 

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