3/14/18 Nationwide School Walkout Has Begun

[kaz]

You think school is for staging protests? Actually, their own time is for that. Another reason our schools have such shitty return for all the good money we sink into them.

School is for learning. Weekends, evenings, do whatever the hell you want. When your homework is done.

So if they were staging a pro-NRA or a pro-wall demonstration, you'd be for that too, right?

If these students werent the ones getting shot while learning, Id probably agree with you.
A pro NRA ( you baffoons think the NRA needs a demonstration lol) or a pro wall ? I would accept their right to demonstrate.

Im just glad many gun owners dont agree with you all here.

Turn the schools into mini prisons
shut those snowflakes up and wish for a van to run over them
keep the "gun free zone" farce in the forefront
Dont deal with the people who should not have access.
Students have no rights beyond what we let them have

Oh please, cut the crap. It's you who deny teachers and administrators trained in gun safety with CC permits the ability to defend themselves and their students and rely on the government who was outside directing traffic and waiting for the bullets to stop.

When reality backs up your rhetoric, then you can argue a point.

Featherbrain: Let's make guns illegal in schools, then pretend criminals can't get them! You know, like we made drugs illegal and now no one can get them!!!!

The NRA wasn't responsible for any deaths in Florida. Your stupid plan was responsible for most of the 17 since statistically based on CC rates in Florida, there were roughly 15 teachers and administrators who had CC permits and no gun. What good is a gun if you're not allowed to have it when you're being shot at?

I never said the NRA was responsible, I was laughing at the thought of them needing support from their minnions.
I'm also not against having a couple well trained armed school personel. I am against not regulating weapons and denying dangerous people from owning them. The right has one track /my way or the highway thinking and its f'ed up.

Ah, so you admit you are a "minion" of the ACLU, NAACP, NOW and unions? Interesting.

Personally I just thought special interest groups were there because we have views. Interesting how you think that special interests groups are only there so we could be their minions.

You would never be a hypocrite, so I'm sure this isn't a case where your standard flips on party, is it?

I want nothing to do with the groups you mentioned above, sorry.
Were all hypocrits to some degree. I dont know if it always was, but party loyalty and all the crap that goes with it, is just a waste of time.

Yet they aren't worth mentioning, just right wing groups are worth bringing up.

The lame partisan crap is ridiculous. The NRA is supported by many of us and they advocate our views. That somehow leftist groups are representing the views of leftists while right wingers are somehow controlled by right wing groups is just the hack hyper-partisan that you are

 

[kaz]

BEST civic lesson those kids could ever have........(careful, those kids willl be voting soon......lol)

Nah, t hey'd be better served taking actual civics lessons rather than this stupid shit or learning about my two mommies and putting condoms on cucumbers. That's how we end up with the likes of, well, you.

A better civics lesson for leftist children would be to teach them how we run elections in this country and the Constitutional way to amend the Constitution. Federal powers like immigration control would be another good thing to teach leftist children. Gun rights. They have a shit load they're not learning in civics now.

Learning to be leftist stooges manipulated and used by their parents can wait until later

We should also include how our elections are rigged and how both parties have a huge stake in manipulating the American people. The first step should probably be to free them from this right /left lock in step merry go round.

I agree, Immigration does need an over haul.

Our elections are rigged? So you're calling Obama a stupid ass wipe? He has a personal message here just for you to tell you that you're wrong.



And again, I said I do NOT want politics in the schools. Not mine, and not yours as you advocate yet again here

Obama sounds intelligent and genuine as usual. But yes ( everything Ive read and listened to)leads me to think the system is rigged and not in our favor.

Well, Obama says you're full of shit. You're a drooling imbecile who doesn't know what you're talking about.

And you're another hyper partisan leftist who believes intelligence is agreeing on every issue with you

 

[Wry Catcher]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

What's your point? Any gun made to kill a large amount of people as quickly as possible is a "military-style weapon". It can be used as an assault weapon or a defensive weapon; in a civilized society the two most practical defensive weapons are hand guns and shotguns.

Only paranoids, drug dealers and armed robbers believe they need to have a "military-style weapon". But maybe Mary has some other reason for needing to kill lots of people in a very short time.

 

[kaz]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

What's your point? Any gun made to kill a large amount of people as quickly as possible is a "military-style weapon". It can be used as an assault weapon or a defensive weapon; in a civilized society the two most practical defensive weapons are hand guns and shotguns.

Only paranoids, drug dealers and armed robbers believe they need to have a "military-style weapon". But maybe Mary has some other reason for needing to kill lots of people in a very short time.

What difference does it make what gun you use if the government is going to just come and direct traffic until you're done? You have all the time you need

 

[featherlite]

If these students werent the ones getting shot while learning, Id probably agree with you.
A pro NRA ( you baffoons think the NRA needs a demonstration lol) or a pro wall ? I would accept their right to demonstrate.

Im just glad many gun owners dont agree with you all here.

Turn the schools into mini prisons
shut those snowflakes up and wish for a van to run over them
keep the "gun free zone" farce in the forefront
Dont deal with the people who should not have access.
Students have no rights beyond what we let them have

Oh please, cut the crap. It's you who deny teachers and administrators trained in gun safety with CC permits the ability to defend themselves and their students and rely on the government who was outside directing traffic and waiting for the bullets to stop.

When reality backs up your rhetoric, then you can argue a point.

Featherbrain: Let's make guns illegal in schools, then pretend criminals can't get them! You know, like we made drugs illegal and now no one can get them!!!!

The NRA wasn't responsible for any deaths in Florida. Your stupid plan was responsible for most of the 17 since statistically based on CC rates in Florida, there were roughly 15 teachers and administrators who had CC permits and no gun. What good is a gun if you're not allowed to have it when you're being shot at?

I never said the NRA was responsible, I was laughing at the thought of them needing support from their minnions.
I'm also not against having a couple well trained armed school personel. I am against not regulating weapons and denying dangerous people from owning them. The right has one track /my way or the highway thinking and its f'ed up.

Ah, so you admit you are a "minion" of the ACLU, NAACP, NOW and unions? Interesting.

Personally I just thought special interest groups were there because we have views. Interesting how you think that special interests groups are only there so we could be their minions.

You would never be a hypocrite, so I'm sure this isn't a case where your standard flips on party, is it?

I want nothing to do with the groups you mentioned above, sorry.
Were all hypocrits to some degree. I dont know if it always was, but party loyalty and all the crap that goes with it, is just a waste of time.

Yet they aren't worth mentioning, just right wing groups are worth bringing up.

The lame partisan crap is ridiculous. The NRA is supported by many of us and they advocate our views. That somehow leftist groups are representing the views of leftists while right wingers are somehow controlled by right wing groups is just the hack hyper-partisan that you are

Twist it however you like. These incidents happen over and over and over again. A few competent armed staff members is probably a good idea, along with some new gun regulations. If you arent a criminal or potential shooter...you need not worry.
If your fear gov taking guns out of citizens hands altogether? well get your complacent butt out there and do something.

 

[kaz]

Oh please, cut the crap. It's you who deny teachers and administrators trained in gun safety with CC permits the ability to defend themselves and their students and rely on the government who was outside directing traffic and waiting for the bullets to stop.

When reality backs up your rhetoric, then you can argue a point.

Featherbrain: Let's make guns illegal in schools, then pretend criminals can't get them! You know, like we made drugs illegal and now no one can get them!!!!

The NRA wasn't responsible for any deaths in Florida. Your stupid plan was responsible for most of the 17 since statistically based on CC rates in Florida, there were roughly 15 teachers and administrators who had CC permits and no gun. What good is a gun if you're not allowed to have it when you're being shot at?

I never said the NRA was responsible, I was laughing at the thought of them needing support from their minnions.
I'm also not against having a couple well trained armed school personel. I am against not regulating weapons and denying dangerous people from owning them. The right has one track /my way or the highway thinking and its f'ed up.

Ah, so you admit you are a "minion" of the ACLU, NAACP, NOW and unions? Interesting.

Personally I just thought special interest groups were there because we have views. Interesting how you think that special interests groups are only there so we could be their minions.

You would never be a hypocrite, so I'm sure this isn't a case where your standard flips on party, is it?

I want nothing to do with the groups you mentioned above, sorry.
Were all hypocrits to some degree. I dont know if it always was, but party loyalty and all the crap that goes with it, is just a waste of time.

Yet they aren't worth mentioning, just right wing groups are worth bringing up.

The lame partisan crap is ridiculous. The NRA is supported by many of us and they advocate our views. That somehow leftist groups are representing the views of leftists while right wingers are somehow controlled by right wing groups is just the hack hyper-partisan that you are

Twist it however you like. These incidents happen over and over and over again. A few competent armed staff members is probably a good idea, along with some new gun regulations. If you arent a criminal or potential shooter...you need not worry.
If your fear gov taking guns out of citizens hands altogether? well get your complacent butt out there and do something.

What new gun regulations are you proposing and why do you believe they will be effective?

I'll answer first. I would institute complete background checks. Then I would arrest the people who fail them. That ... is the only real way to stop determined shooters, get them off the street.

If we're not going to arrest them, no deal. All it is then is an impediment to honest citizens.

Laws banning particular guns are stupid and don't work.

That you conceded we should allow some CCs on school does give you credibility with me. That we should pretend we live in the 50s is a non-starter. And particularly humorous since leftists lecture us all the time that we need to stop pretending we live in the past

 

[Marion Morrison]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

A sandwich knife.

IOW, you have no clue, alleged Chair-Force veteran.










































My apologies to the real Air-Force people.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

What's your point? Any gun made to kill a large amount of people as quickly as possible is a "military-style weapon". It can be used as an assault weapon or a defensive weapon; in a civilized society the two most practical defensive weapons are hand guns and shotguns.

Only paranoids, drug dealers and armed robbers believe they need to have a "military-style weapon". But maybe Mary has some other reason for needing to kill lots of people in a very short time.

Thus claimeth a leftist shill on USMB. I notice you didn't come up with the correct answer either, faggot. Robbers almost unerringly use handguns. Thus showeth your retardedness. Unlike jillian, you may have the education you claim, but that doesn't mean you have any common sense. What if you need to eradicate Prairie Dogs all day in the back 40? The AR is a perfect weapon for that. Dark night and there's Coyotes around your henhouse moving fast? Also a good use.

Leftist faggots trying to disarm America? Maybe. Is that the part that makes you piss your pants? Too bad, that's what the 2nd amendment is about.

I don't own an AR or have any desire to, but you dorps are ridiculous.

If somebody wants one, they should be able to have one.

 

[yiostheoy]

Watch: Students Put Pencils Down, Walk Out in Gun Protests

Thousands of students across the D.C. area staged walkouts Wednesday to protest gun violence, one month after the deadly shooting inside a high school in Parkland, Florida.

Police cruisers escorted hundreds of students from Montgomery Blair High School as they marched through Silver Spring, Maryland, carrying signs that said "Protect Children, Not Guns" and "Our Blood, Your Hands."

The walkout is one of the first of many in the region.

The first large-scale, coordinated national demonstration is planned for 10 a.m. Wednesday, when organizers of the Women's March called for a 17-minute walkout -- with one minute for each of the 17 students and staff members killed in Florida. Many organizers and participants are using the #enough hashtag.

Thousands of Students Are Walking Out of School in Nationwide Protests. Here’s Why

The 1969 Supreme Court ruling on the case Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District makes it clear that students don’t “shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” But that does come with some caveats and complications.

• First, it only applies to public schools. “This is because public schools are run by the government and private schools aren’t, and the First Amendment only controls what the government can and can’t do,” the ACLU explains on its “Know Your Rights” page. Students at private schools can be stopped from participating in protests like the #Enough National School walkout, and students should consult with their teachers and school administrators and know what the policies are regarding protests or absences.
• Second, free speech in schools extends “as long as you don’t disrupt the functioning of the school or violate the school’s content-neutral policies,” the ACLU explains, and what is “disruptive” is contextual. If deemed disruptive, “schools can stop students from participating,” according to CNN.
• Third, you can be punished for participating — not over what you are protesting, but for being absent from class. “The exact punishment you could face will vary by your state, school district, and school,” the ACLU explains. “Find out more by reading the policies of your school and school district. If you’re planning to miss a class or two, look at the policy for unexcused absences.” If planned ahead with parents, students may be able to be signed out of a class by a parent.
• Finally, schools are mandated to be guardians to their students. “Schools stand in what’s known as loco parentis, so we don’t simply release our students into the ether,” Francisco Negron, the Chief Legal Officer at the National School Boards Association, told NPR. Negron issued guidance to schools ahead of the walkouts. “Chief among our recommendations is that to the extent possible, school districts should plan ahead and engage your students, parents, and stakeholders,” the checklist reads. Teachers also have a complex position when it comes to protesting; they can often protest on their own time, but not during class time, according to CNN.

Next nationwide protest is March 24th, and I will be attending that one.

March for our Lives

Parkland student: My generation won't stand for this (Opinion) - CNN

Activists Lay Thousands of Shoes Outside U.S. Capitol

Activists placed thousands of pairs of shoes on the lawn outside the Capitol in Washington, D.C. Tuesday to memorialize children killed by gun violence.

The demonstration was planned by international advocacy group Avaaz to represent the number of children killed by guns since the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, CBS News reports.

The demonstration was based on research by the American Academy of Pediatrics that found that 1,300 children die from gun shot wounds in the U.S. annually, or about three daily. Thus the display featured 7,000 pairs of shoes.

The protestors assembled the empty shoes on the southeast lawn from 8:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. in an effort to push Congress for gun reform.

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The kids THINK they are protesting guns.

They are really protesting NEGLECT.

Their parents have neglected to protect their schools with iron doors and metal detectors and security guards armed with Uzi's.

 

[yiostheoy]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

A sandwich knife.

IOW, you have no clue, alleged Chair-Force veteran.



































My apologies to the real Air-Force people.

In the USMC we call it the Air Farce.

 

[Esmeralda]

Wouldn't want people exercising their right to protest, now would we?

The US Bill of Rights as seen by the right.

First Amendment

Don't say anything about taking my guns away, don't protest my guns, and don't mention my religion either.

Second Amendment

Guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns shall not be infringed to me or my buddies, other fuckers we don't care about.

Third Amendment

Keep away from my house bitch, I've got guns.

Fourth Amendment

I have the right to be secure in my guns, and no warrants shall be made to take my guns, bitches.

Fifth Amendment

No person shall be arrested for using their gun unless they're a criminal, and I'm not a criminal no matter how many laws I break.

Sixth Amendment

I have the right to not be tried for using my guns.

Seventh Amendment

See the Sixth Amendment, guns, guns, guns.

Eighth Amendment

Taking my guns away is the only cruel and unusual punishment not allowed.

Ninth Amendment

Even if all the other Amendments don't make you think you can take my guns away, this one means you can't take my fucking guns away. Fuck you.

Tenth Amendment

You can amend any of these Amendments, except the ones about guns, now fuck off.

I pretty much can't understand the position of the pro-gun people regarding having some kind of rational and effective gun control. It's beyond understanding that people want to allow these mass shootings to go on and on. But one of the things most mind boggling about their position is that they find the deaths of all these innocents, many of them children, laughable. How can anyone laugh about this?

amusing.

you thought I was laughing at the kids?

I was making fun of the fool that added owning guns to ALL 10 Amendments.

I could see what you were making fun of.

and you still posted what you did?

tsk tsk

I believe you were making fun of the situation. Of the kids who are protesting the fact they are being murdered one by one by madmen and the NRA and gunnuts are allowing it, refuse to do anything about it.

 

[Esmeralda]

Think about how awful it is that a government funded school system is teaching our children liberal values, teaching children that their own rights are harmful to them . . . all because of a lunatic. They are teaching these children that they should rely on government. This is the antithesis of what our country stands for and was built on.

The government that wholly failed them and was responsible for the last shooting.

The kid with a semi-automatic military style assault weapon was responsible for the shooting: no one else.

What type of military-style assault weapon is like what the kid used?

I don't need to be a firearm expert to have an opinion. You gunnuts think we spend our whole lives obssessing over guns? No, contrary to folks like you, I have a life.

 

[Auld Phart]

I pretty much can't understand the position of the pro-gun people regarding having some kind of rational and effective gun control. It's beyond understanding that people want to allow these mass shootings to go on and on. But one of the things most mind boggling about their position is that they find the deaths of all these innocents, many of them children, laughable. How can anyone laugh about this?

amusing.

you thought I was laughing at the kids?

I was making fun of the fool that added owning guns to ALL 10 Amendments.

I could see what you were making fun of.

and you still posted what you did?

tsk tsk

I believe you were making fun of the situation. Of the kids who are protesting the fact they are being murdered one by one by madmen and the NRA and gunnuts are allowing it, refuse to do anything about it.

I believe you need classes in comprehension.

 

[skye]

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If a Muslim decided that it would be a good time to get his 72 virgins, and took a truck into the mall and ran over those snowflakes, would the school be responsible for using young children for their propaganda needs?

Inflammatory much?

No young children involved. L2read.

Under 21?

That's not young children. These are older teens.Young children would be elementary school age.

Those that want to ban young children of 18 -20 years old from having a legal rifle and exercise their 2nd amendment, yet they can go out with liberal propaganda and exercise their 1st amendment...

If a 19 year old with serious problems had not had that gun designed for war, 17 of them would not be dead.

That gun has as much in common with a gun designed for war as you have in common with a high school diploma. Neither happened!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The demonstrators are going to learn that the U.S. has a representative government, and they are going to see clearly who is represented. Then, after they see it is not they who are represented, perhaps they will start to demonstrate for a real cause; the end of the two party dictatorship and dominance by vested interests.

Then they will begin to vote the asses out that are controlled by the NRA!

Many of those students will turn 18 this year. All will be 18 by 2020!

They will not forget their dead friends. That sight will never go away in their lifetimes.

So, what laws will they pass if they can get liberals elected?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If a 19 year old with serious problems had not had that gun designed for war, 17 of them would not be dead.

Yes

because guns are the only way for a 19 year old with serious problems to kill mass amounts of people.

You are correct in that guns are not the only way to kill mass amounts of people. However, guns tend to be the preferred method of killing in these instances. That is something that should be looked into.
Guns seem to be the preferred tool of choice in mass murder, followed by vehicles? I think. We don't seem to be plagued by Mass Poisoning, Mass Drowning, Mass Vehicular Homicide, Mass Throat Slitting, Mass Head Crushing, Mass Tank Attack, Mass Land Mine Attack, etc....
No, it's guns, guns, guns....

I'm not going to claim to know why guns are overwhelmingly the method of choice for mass murder, but I would like people smarter than me to look into it.

With all those mass murders by guns, they still haven't come close to the preferred method of killing.

And...nothing was done after that to prevent future events, right?

Well we didn't ban planes did we?

You know what would prevent school shootings?

Locking the fucking doors

For about the 50th time since the incident occurred, you are being reminded that the "fucking doors" were locked, you jack ass!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes

because guns are the only way for a 19 year old with serious problems to kill mass amounts of people.

You are correct in that guns are not the only way to kill mass amounts of people. However, guns tend to be the preferred method of killing in these instances. That is something that should be looked into.
Guns seem to be the preferred tool of choice in mass murder, followed by vehicles? I think. We don't seem to be plagued by Mass Poisoning, Mass Drowning, Mass Vehicular Homicide, Mass Throat Slitting, Mass Head Crushing, Mass Tank Attack, Mass Land Mine Attack, etc....
No, it's guns, guns, guns....

I'm not going to claim to know why guns are overwhelmingly the method of choice for mass murder, but I would like people smarter than me to look into it.

With all those mass murders by guns, they still haven't come close to the preferred method of killing.

And...nothing was done after that to prevent future events, right?

Well we didn't ban planes did we?

You know what would prevent school shootings?

Locking the fucking doors

For about the 50th time since the incident occurred, you are being reminded that the "fucking doors" were locked, you jack ass!

They weren't locked securely if any student can let any one they want onto the school were they

IDIOT

 

[koshergrl]

I pretty much can't understand the position of the pro-gun people regarding having some kind of rational and effective gun control. It's beyond understanding that people want to allow these mass shootings to go on and on. But one of the things most mind boggling about their position is that they find the deaths of all these innocents, many of them children, laughable. How can anyone laugh about this?

amusing.

you thought I was laughing at the kids?

I was making fun of the fool that added owning guns to ALL 10 Amendments.

I could see what you were making fun of.

and you still posted what you did?

tsk tsk

I believe you were making fun of the situation. Of the kids who are protesting the fact they are being murdered one by one by madmen and the NRA and gunnuts are allowing it, refuse to do anything about it.

They are being used to rally support for gun grabbing ideologues who think their job as educators is to turn our kids into a commie force.

Pollak: School Walkout for Gun Control Likely Violated Constitution | Breitbart

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are correct in that guns are not the only way to kill mass amounts of people. However, guns tend to be the preferred method of killing in these instances. That is something that should be looked into.
Guns seem to be the preferred tool of choice in mass murder, followed by vehicles? I think. We don't seem to be plagued by Mass Poisoning, Mass Drowning, Mass Vehicular Homicide, Mass Throat Slitting, Mass Head Crushing, Mass Tank Attack, Mass Land Mine Attack, etc....
No, it's guns, guns, guns....

I'm not going to claim to know why guns are overwhelmingly the method of choice for mass murder, but I would like people smarter than me to look into it.

With all those mass murders by guns, they still haven't come close to the preferred method of killing.

And...nothing was done after that to prevent future events, right?

Well we didn't ban planes did we?

You know what would prevent school shootings?

Locking the fucking doors

For about the 50th time since the incident occurred, you are being reminded that the "fucking doors" were locked, you jack ass!

They weren't locked securely if any student can let any one they want onto the school were they

IDIOT

There is no way to do so, and you have been shown the rules and regulations that prevent that from happening. Why are you so insistent on being a dumbass and spreading it around with your ignorant commentary?

Your comments are akin to some liberal jackass arguing that the gun jumped into Cruz's hands and decided to murder 17 people all on it's own! Now can you see the level of dumbass you have settled for?