2016 Arctic sea ice thread

[Wyatt earp]

What is Expected for New York
6 NYCRR Part 490, Projected Sea-level Rise Rulemaking - Available for public comment through December 28, 2015.

Rising seas and increased storm surges
put New York's coastlines at risk.
Fast Facts - Sea-level Rise in New York

• New York has an estimated 1,850 miles of tidal shoreline exposed to the action of tides, wind and waves - much of it developed and densely populated.
• New York has experienced at least a foot of sea-level rise since 1900, mostly due to expansion of warming ocean water. Certain conditions along New York's coast make sea-level rise here somewhat higher than the global average.
• New York's coastal marine counties already see more intense storm surges and floods. Superstorm Sandy highlighted the risks and vulnerabilities of our tidal shorelines, which are home to more than half of New Yorkers.
• By 2100, scientists project sea levels 18 to 50 inches higher than today along New York's coastlines and estuaries, though a rise as high as 75 inches could occur.
• Sea-level rise is locked in for centuries, or even millennia, by heat-trapping greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere. Continuing or increasing emissions will speed up the rise to higher levels.
• Energy, land use and infrastructure decisions made now will determine how vulnerable our children and grandchildren will be to rising sea-levels.

Sea Level Rise - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

Sure, LaDumkopf, sure.

Lmao you live in a cave in idaho

By God, the intellect behind that reply is astounding.

We know you do old rocks all you do is complain about global warning

 

[Old Rocks]

Now you are a silly ass, Bear. I present what the scientists are finding in their research. Have you yet to do so?

 

[jc456]

No. I am doing what any other scientist would do. Ask you to back up your claims with, you know ....EVIDENCE.

So, you actually are so bereft of shame, you use the word "scientist" in your mindless blab?

And you want "before and after pictures" as "evidence", when seal-level rise is usually measured in thousands upon thousands in data points spanning 30 years, if not longer?

Frankly, your chutzpa, entirely based on ignorance, is amazing. Other than that, Old Rocks has you pegged, perfectly:

Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612.

He forgot to make explicit you're a fraud, but that follows effortlessly.

So, if it's measured thousands a years apart, how then do you know there's any rise in the last 30 years?

 

[Old Rocks]

↑Westwall
No. I am doing what any other scientist would do. Ask you to back up your claims with, you know ....EVIDENCE.

Olde Europe
So, you actually are so bereft of shame, you use the word "scientist" in your mindless blab?

And you want "before and after pictures" as "evidence", when seal-level rise is usually measured in thousands upon thousands in data points spanning 30 years, if not longer?

Frankly, your chutzpa, entirely based on ignorance, is amazing. Other than that, Old Rocks has you pegged, perfectly:

↑Old Rocks
Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612

Olde Europe.
He forgot to make explicit you're a fraud, but that follows effortlessly.

jc
So, if it's measured thousands a years apart, how then do you know there's any rise in the last 30 years?

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jc, most here have commented on your inability to read what has been posted, but that sets a new record for lack of comprehension.

 

[LaDexter]

Like everything else about Algore's FRAUD, the sea level "rise" is all fudge. There is precisely no sea level rise on Earth, simply because there is no net ice melt ongoing on Earth, as 90% of Earth ice on Antarctica has added at least 80 billion tons of ice every year since Algore started lying about CO2.

 

[westwall]

↑Westwall
No. I am doing what any other scientist would do. Ask you to back up your claims with, you know ....EVIDENCE.

Olde Europe
So, you actually are so bereft of shame, you use the word "scientist" in your mindless blab?

And you want "before and after pictures" as "evidence", when seal-level rise is usually measured in thousands upon thousands in data points spanning 30 years, if not longer?

Frankly, your chutzpa, entirely based on ignorance, is amazing. Other than that, Old Rocks has you pegged, perfectly:

↑Old Rocks
Moving your peer level to jc and LaDexter? Post # 612

Olde Europe.
He forgot to make explicit you're a fraud, but that follows effortlessly.

jc
So, if it's measured thousands a years apart, how then do you know there's any rise in the last 30 years?

......................................................................................................

jc, most here have commented on your inability to read what has been posted, but that sets a new record for lack of comprehension.

C'mon olfraud. You have made the claim that sea level has risen a foot in New York. You further stated that that directly led to the damage from Sandy. Please present some credible, factual evidence to support your assertion or simply admit that it is a lie and we can move on.

 

[LaDexter]

The warmers were blaming sea level rise for Sandy's damage. Typical. Bawk on the morons will....

Would you like some ice cream with that FUDGE???

 

[Crick]

C'mon olfraud. You have made the claim that sea level has risen a foot in New York. You further stated that that directly led to the damage from Sandy. Please present some credible, factual evidence to support your assertion or simply admit that it is a lie and we can move on.

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Superstorm Sandy and Sea Level Rise | NOAA Climate.gov
What kind of sea level rise has New York Harbor seen over the past century?
We’ve had roughly a foot of sea level rise in the New York City area in the past century. That’s measured at a tidal gauge near Battery Park just off the southern tip of Manhattan.
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C'mon WeaselWienie, you've made the claim that Old Rocks was lying and now we see he most certainly was not. So, please retract your accusation and admit you were wrong and we can move on.

Wouldn't that be an interesting rule for the board. Accusations of lying require evidence and if disproven, require an apology. Who's for it?

 

[westwall]

C'mon olfraud. You have made the claim that sea level has risen a foot in New York. You further stated that that directly led to the damage from Sandy. Please present some credible, factual evidence to support your assertion or simply admit that it is a lie and we can move on.

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Superstorm Sandy and Sea Level Rise | NOAA Climate.gov
What kind of sea level rise has New York Harbor seen over the past century?
We’ve had roughly a foot of sea level rise in the New York City area in the past century. That’s measured at a tidal gauge near Battery Park just off the southern tip of Manhattan.
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C'mon WeaselWienie, you've made the claim that Old Rocks was lying and now we see he most certainly was not. So, please retract your accusation and admit you were wrong and we can move on.

Wouldn't that be an interesting rule for the board. Accusations of lying require evidence and if disproven, require an apology. Who's for it?

Photographic evidence that shows sea level rise numbskull. It's easy to post up propaganda. That's all you do. But real, factual evidence you are remarkably short of. Sandy hit at a high tide. Hurricane Irene would have been even greater if the tide had been just a tad higher. Sandy's destructiveness was do to the tide state not supposed sea level rise.

https://www.tidesandcurrents.noaa.g...ater_Level_and_Meteorological_Data_Report.pdf

 

[Crick]

So you reject a NOAA report of a tide gauge at Battery Park?

Pray tell, did it ever occur to you that sea level rise has no effect on the cycle of tides. One on top of the other makes for a powerful surge.

 

[westwall]

So you reject a NOAA report of a tide gauge at Battery Park?

One gauge? ONE gauge? I believe photographic evidence that can't be monkeyed with. Your hero's have a long history of data falsification. If the ocean had indeed risen a foot as olfraud claims then photographic evidence should be as easy as pie.

So present it.

 

[Billy_Bob]

For New York City, the rise is over a foot. And made a significant difference in terms of damage from the storm surge that accompanied Sandy.

Manhattan is sinking due to shear weight upon it... Even USGS admits this....

 

[mamooth]

"Shear" weight would break bits off, not sink something. Now, "sheer" weight might sink an object. But that's not what makes the NYC area sink. Which it does do, at about 3-4 inches per century. It's isostatic sinking. Areas where glaciers have recently retreated from spring up quickly. As mantle material flows up under those areas, it flows away from areas further south, so they sink a bit.

So, global sea level rise is about 8 inches over the past century, 4 inches of sinking at NYC, so the sea is up a foot there, like the people said.

It's a mark of pseudoscience to deliberately throw away good data, like the tidal gauges and satellite altimetry, solely because it disagrees with you, and instead demand worthless fuzzy crap data like photographs. Thus, head raging pseudoscience cult fanatic Westwall is doing exactly that.

 

[Wyatt earp]

"Shear" weight would break bits off, not sink something. Now, "sheer" weight might sink an object. But that's not what makes the NYC area sink. Which it does do, at about 3-4 inches per century. It's isostatic sinking. Areas where glaciers have recently retreated from spring up quickly. As mantle material flows up under those areas, it flows away from areas further south, so they sink a bit.

So, global sea level rise is about 8 inches over the past century, 4 inches of sinking at NYC, so the sea is up a foot there, like the people said.

It's a mark of pseudoscience to deliberately throw away good data, like the tidal gauges and satellite altimetry, solely because it disagrees with you, and instead demand worthless fuzzy crap data like photographs. Thus, head raging pseudoscience cult fanatic Westwall is doing exactly that.

History is not your friend is it...

Prove it.

 

[Crick]

Show us tide gauge data from the New York area that does NOT show a foot of rise.

 

[LaDexter]

It's a mark of pseudoscience

The entire summation of your posts = pseudoscience

Tell us again how Greenland is "melting" while thickening by its annual ice core every year...

 

[LaDexter]

Show us tide gauge data from the New York area that does NOT show a foot of rise.

Why do your fudgebaking heroes have to lie about why the Marshall Islands are sinking???

If there really was a sea level rise, why do the Tippy's need to lie about islands sinking by tectonics?

YOUR SIDE LIES!!!!!!!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Westwall, LaDexter, jc, Crusader Frank. What a peer group. LOL

A storm surge on top of a high tide, and a foot more of water because of sea level rise at New York City. And that extra foot contributed to the damage, as did the high tide and the storm surge. What we have here are a gaggle of know making statements with zero to back them up.

 

[LaDexter]

Your side is LYING about WHY the Marshall Islands are sinking. If there actually was a sea level rise, which there is not, your side would not be LYING. They ARE LYING, proving you are a chickenshit parrot of fudge, fraud, and cherry picking.

 

[Crick]

Still waiting for a circa Manhattan tide gauge that doesn't show a foot of sea level rise since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. No takers? Hey, the report was from a WOMAN working for NOAA. She was BOUND to be lying, right? Or incompetent? C'mon, I thought you guys were PRINCIPLED...