2012 NBA Playoffs

[Article 15]

Wow. Wade just hit a player like a safety in football. It was only called a flagrant one (when it should have been a flagrant two). - Same thing as last year when he body slammed Rondo and broke his elbow. NBA is a joke. They won't upgrade it to flagrant two and suspend him.

Wade gets away with whatever he wants, if Rondo was the one who slammed Wade on the ground and broke his elbow you can bet Rondo would be suspended for 6 months and have criminal charges pressed against him as well.

I'm tellin' ya, Bird needs to send the order down from the front office for Hansbrough to hit Wade with a Kevin McHale-style clothesline the first time he attacks the rim next game.

 

[High_Gravity]

Wow. Wade just hit a player like a safety in football. It was only called a flagrant one (when it should have been a flagrant two). - Same thing as last year when he body slammed Rondo and broke his elbow. NBA is a joke. They won't upgrade it to flagrant two and suspend him.

Wade gets away with whatever he wants, if Rondo was the one who slammed Wade on the ground and broke his elbow you can bet Rondo would be suspended for 6 months and have criminal charges pressed against him as well.

I'm tellin' ya, Bird needs to send the order down from the front office for Hansbrough to hit Wade with a Kevin McHale-style clothesline the first time he attacks the rim next game.

If the Pacers do that they need to use a player thats easily expandable like a no name bench guy cause if Crazy T does that he will be gone for months and probably face criminal charges for assault, Wade going down will cost the league money and that will infuriate Stern to no end.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Michael Jordan is the best shooting guard, not sure about the point, so many to choose from.

Kobe's career isn't over yet. When it is all said and done, he has no chance of ever being the best? Just asking.

Based on everything I've seen? Not a chance. He'd have to rip off 2 more championships and then you may have an argument, but still we will probably disagree. If you weren't old enough to see Jordan, its a shame. The only one that was Jordan before Jordan was Dr. J. A highlight real. Athletic like Jordan, but not a 6 time champ. One word to describe Jordan. Winner. Now Kobe has the rings, but what did it take? Shaq? One of the greatest centers of all time? And it took them years to figure it out. So Kobe just isn't as impressive as Jordan was. But damn close. No shame in Kobe's game. And I give him props for doing it without Shaq. I'm definately a fan.

Bird owned Dr. J. That's what that infamous fight was about. They were half way through the 3rd Quarter and Bird was on his way to 70 and he was mocking him, saying 42 to 6. His 42 points to Dr. J's 6. He owned Jordan too. Fourteen straight wins against him and two playoff sweeps.

 

[High_Gravity]

Kobe's career isn't over yet. When it is all said and done, he has no chance of ever being the best? Just asking.

Based on everything I've seen? Not a chance. He'd have to rip off 2 more championships and then you may have an argument, but still we will probably disagree. If you weren't old enough to see Jordan, its a shame. The only one that was Jordan before Jordan was Dr. J. A highlight real. Athletic like Jordan, but not a 6 time champ. One word to describe Jordan. Winner. Now Kobe has the rings, but what did it take? Shaq? One of the greatest centers of all time? And it took them years to figure it out. So Kobe just isn't as impressive as Jordan was. But damn close. No shame in Kobe's game. And I give him props for doing it without Shaq. I'm definately a fan.

Bird owned Dr. J. That's what that infamous fight was about. They were half way through the 3rd Quarter and Bird was on his way to 70 and he was mocking him, saying 42 to 6. His 42 points to Dr. J's 6. He owned Jordan too. Fourteen straight wins against him and two playoff sweeps.

Bird was a bad ass, one of the toughest NBA Players in history also, he grabbed Dr J by the throat in that fight also.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

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[Billo_Really]

Who's the best Guard of all time?

The Big O, Oscar Robertson.

He averaged triple-doubles for an entire season.

 

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Kareem was never the greatest Laker - because his best yearswere behind him - with UCLA and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Best basketball player ever.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Who's the best Guard of all time?

The Big O, Oscar Robertson.

He averaged triple-doubles for an entire season.

He virtually averaged a triple double for five seasons in a row. I think it helped that teams couldn't review videos back then so much and formulate strategies.

 

[Billo_Really]

Based on everything I've seen? Not a chance. He'd have to rip off 2 more championships and then you may have an argument, but still we will probably disagree. If you weren't old enough to see Jordan, its a shame. The only one that was Jordan before Jordan was Dr. J. A highlight real. Athletic like Jordan, but not a 6 time champ. One word to describe Jordan. Winner. Now Kobe has the rings, but what did it take? Shaq? One of the greatest centers of all time? And it took them years to figure it out. So Kobe just isn't as impressive as Jordan was. But damn close. No shame in Kobe's game. And I give him props for doing it without Shaq. I'm definately a fan.

Jordan was over-rated. The most dominant force the NBA has ever seen was Wilt Chamberlain. The greatest winner was Bill Russell. Jordan's teams would've lost to:

• '67 Philidelphia Warriors
• '70 New York Knicks
• '71 Milwalkee Bucks
• '72 Lakers
• '77 Portland Trailblazers
• '85 Lakers
• '86 Celtics
• '87 Lakers

All those Bull's teams had one fatal flaw, a dominant player at the 5 spot. You do not answer a Russell, Chamberlain or Jabbar, with a Perdue or Cartwright. Any championship team with a hall of fame center would've ate their lunch.

 

[Billo_Really]

He virtually averaged a triple double for five seasons in a row. I think it helped that teams couldn't review videos back then so much and formulate strategies.

There weren't that many teams. The league was not as deluted as it is now.

 

[Billo_Really]

Kareem was never the greatest Laker - because his best yearswere behind him - with UCLA and the Milwaukee Bucks.

Best basketball player ever.

Best ever was Wilt.

 

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Beg to differ.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Based on everything I've seen? Not a chance. He'd have to rip off 2 more championships and then you may have an argument, but still we will probably disagree. If you weren't old enough to see Jordan, its a shame. The only one that was Jordan before Jordan was Dr. J. A highlight real. Athletic like Jordan, but not a 6 time champ. One word to describe Jordan. Winner. Now Kobe has the rings, but what did it take? Shaq? One of the greatest centers of all time? And it took them years to figure it out. So Kobe just isn't as impressive as Jordan was. But damn close. No shame in Kobe's game. And I give him props for doing it without Shaq. I'm definately a fan.

Jordan was over-rated. The most dominant force the NBA has ever seen was Wilt Chamberlain. The greatest winner was Bill Russell. Jordan's teams would've lost to:

• '67 Philidelphia Warriors
• '70 New York Knicks
• '71 Milwalkee Bucks
• '72 Lakers
• '77 Portland Trailblazers
• '85 Lakers
• '86 Celtics
• '87 Lakers

All those Bull's teams had one fatal flaw, a dominant player at the 5 spot. You do not answer a Russell, Chamberlain or Jabbar, with a Perdue or Cartwright. Any championship team with a hall of fame center would've ate their lunch.

Agreed. An easy tell is that if Jordan was that dominant he would have been winning 50 games and not having losing seasons before Pippen got there. Jordan jockers will whine, but he was just getting started. Yea? He took his team from 27 wins to 39 wins? Bird took his team from 29 wins to 60 and a conference final.

And yea, the 90's was pretty watered down for a team with no good 5 to be winning that much. And a team like the 86 C's or 87 Lakers would likely sweep the Bulls (especially if it was reff'd by 70's standards in which it wasn't ***** ball.)

 

[Billo_Really]

Beg to differ.

Name someone who:

• scored a 100 points in one game
• averaged 50 points a game for an entire season
• got 55 rebounds in one game

He's the only center ever to lead the league in assists.

He still holds about a third of all basketball records.

 

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Jordan is overrated;.

 

[Billo_Really]

Based on everything I've seen? Not a chance. He'd have to rip off 2 more championships and then you may have an argument, but still we will probably disagree. If you weren't old enough to see Jordan, its a shame. The only one that was Jordan before Jordan was Dr. J. A highlight real. Athletic like Jordan, but not a 6 time champ. One word to describe Jordan. Winner. Now Kobe has the rings, but what did it take? Shaq? One of the greatest centers of all time? And it took them years to figure it out. So Kobe just isn't as impressive as Jordan was. But damn close. No shame in Kobe's game. And I give him props for doing it without Shaq. I'm definately a fan.

Jordan was over-rated. The most dominant force the NBA has ever seen was Wilt Chamberlain. The greatest winner was Bill Russell. Jordan's teams would've lost to:

• '67 Philidelphia Warriors
• '70 New York Knicks
• '71 Milwalkee Bucks
• '72 Lakers
• '77 Portland Trailblazers
• '85 Lakers
• '86 Celtics
• '87 Lakers

All those Bull's teams had one fatal flaw, a dominant player at the 5 spot. You do not answer a Russell, Chamberlain or Jabbar, with a Perdue or Cartwright. Any championship team with a hall of fame center would've ate their lunch.

Agreed. An easy tell is that if Jordan was that dominant he would have been winning 50 games and not having losing seasons before Pippen got there. Jordan jockers will whine, but he was just getting started. Yea? He took his team from 27 wins to 39 wins? Bird took his team from 29 wins to 60 and a conference final.

And yea, the 90's was pretty watered down for a team with no good 5 to be winning that much. And a team like the 86 C's or 87 Lakers would likely sweep the Bulls (especially if it was reff'd by 70's standards in which it wasn't ***** ball.)

I'll also throw in any Russell Celtic teams. I would've loved to see Jordan drive the lane on Bill Russell. Jordan would get Wilson tattooed across his forehead.

 

[Billo_Really]

Jordan is overrated;.

He was the third best player on his college team.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Beg to differ.

Name someone who:

• scored a 100 points in one game
• averaged 50 points a game for an entire season
• got 55 rebounds in one game

He's the only center ever to lead the league in assists.

He still holds about a third of all basketball records.

I've seen the Wilt highlights. He doesn't stick out as someone who had more talent than say an Olajuwon. Yes, he was a great athlete, but his numbers reflect that he was an athletic 7 footer playing in a much smaller league.

 

[Billo_Really]

I've seen the Wilt highlights. He doesn't stick out as someone who had more talent than say an Olajuwon. Yes, he was a great athlete, but his numbers reflect that he was an athletic 7 footer playing in a much smaller league.

I saw him play. He was Shaq with talent.

 

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Kareem scored 51 points on Wilt