15 year later: Obamacare

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Obamacare has officially failed. It took 15 years, but it has failed.

If you liked your doctor, you didn't get to keep your doctor.

If you liked your healthcare plan, you didn't get to keep your healthcare plan.

Obamacare didn't bring down costs a single penny.

Obama lied.

Remember these geniuses telling saying that you had to pass the bill, to find out what was in the bill?

Here's what was in the bill:
 
This is EXACTLY what every knowledgeable observer knew when the ACA was thrust down America's throat by Democrats (never a single Republican vote). It told health insurers:
  • You cannot turn anyone down because of a pre-existing injury or medical condition,
  • You cannot charge a higher premium to anyone with a pre-existing condition,
  • You must group those people in with everyone else when calculating premiums, and
  • We will not place any restrictions on premiums, so you - medical insurers - don't lose out.
OF COURSE, premiums would skyrocket, as would the profits of medical insurers. This is like asking what will happen if I drop a rock off the top of a building. Surprise! It falls to the ground!

The current ACA subsidies were "temporary" during Covid, but more importantly from a political standpoint, they were intended to conceal from the public how badly ACA had failed to control health insurance premiums as promised. THIS is why Schumer frantically demanded that the subsidies last AT LEAST UNTIL NOVEMBER 2026!

Guess what happens in November 2026. Mid-terms.

The only solution is to create an unconstitutional government program that allows insurers to separate out the aforementioned unfortunates, allows insurers to create logical groupings of insured persons and charge them appropriate rates, and "backstops" the insurers directly for the excess costs of insuring the people with pre-existing conditions.

Also, it would be cool to put some constraints on profiteering by the health insurers, allow interstate competition among insurers, and tackle tort reform

This is all unconstitutional, of course. Congress has no "power" to get into the health insurance business, but that train left the station a long time ago. But it would be a better unconstitutional solution than the current unconstitutional one.
 
The current ACA subsidies were "temporary" during Covid, but more importantly from a political standpoint, they were intended to conceal from the public how badly ACA had failed to control health insurance premiums as promised.

ACA marketplace premiums were flat the entire time the enhanced subsidies were in effect. They're only jumping now that the GOP has taken control and is ending them.

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It hasn't worked from day one. The only people who think it worked are those who were grifting the government to the tune of 1 trillion dollars or more.

Nah, it's worked fine. Record levels of coverage, record-low cost growth, better care and outcomes, all under budget. Cue the GOP trying to break it so they can complain it doesn't work.
 
Nah, it's worked fine. Record levels of coverage, record-low cost growth, better care and outcomes, all under budget. Cue the GOP trying to break it so they can complain it doesn't work.
Less than 12% of the population uses it. The program guaranteed that health insurance companies would become filthy rich, and the quality would go down.

It hasn't worked, it isn't working. Those people who are on it would have been better off without it.

$1000 of dollars a MONTH for shit coverage with extremely high deductibles.


You are a deluded individual.
 
You guys are legitimately the dumbest people on planet Earth.

I would post a refutation of the OP but since you guys are all moronic tally-whackers it would be a waste of time.

I will simply post my THANK YOU for giving me a $30,000 tax deduction and stripping away support for low income health insurance, ending school lunches, pulling back Medicaid, and world support for poverty.

I want you all to know I will use that $30,000 lavishly and progressively.
 
Less than 12% of the population uses it. The program guaranteed that health insurance companies would become filthy rich, and the quality would go down.

It hasn't worked, it isn't working. Those people who are on it would have been better off without it.

It's been working fine, but you single-payer types will probably get your shot at eliminating insurance companies now that the GOP is dismantling it. Go wild.

$1000 of dollars a MONTH for shit coverage with extremely high deductibles.

The median deductible for plans purchased in the ACA marketplace this year is ... $0.
 
ACA marketplace premiums were flat the entire time the enhanced subsidies were in effect. They're only jumping now that the GOP has taken control and is ending them.

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I call bullshit. My premiums went from about $340 per month before Obama care to over $1200 per month by 2018 for a policy with similar coverage. How do we know they aren't charging Republicans different rates than Progressive Democrats?
 
The number one reason for bankruptcy is still health care.


I don't consider that working.

Expanding coverage can have some positive impact on bankruptcy, as the ACA has.



But most of the underlying correlation between illness and bankruptcy is due to the fact that getting sick lowers earnings potential because people can't work. That's a different issue that doesn't get solved just by protecting people from catastrophic medical expenses.
 
Expanding coverage can have some positive impact on bankruptcy, as the ACA has.



But most of the underlying correlation between illness and bankruptcy is due to the fact that getting sick lowers earnings potential because people can't work. That's a different issue that doesn't get solved just by protecting people from catastrophic medical expenses.

Catastrophic? People still can't afford regular health care costs.

It's a mistaken notion that subsidized costs makes things more affordable. Those subsidized costs still have to be paid and Democrats have refused to address that.
 
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It's a mistaken notion that subsidized costs makes things more affordable.

It's open enrollment right now and tens of millions of Americans are discovering that subsidies were indeed making their coverage substantially more affordable for them.
 
It's open enrollment right now and tens of millions of Americans are discovering that subsidies were indeed making their coverage substantially more affordable for them.

And we are now 38 trillion in debt.
 
My private healthcare continues to increase. Ocare was never going to succeed because it relied heavily on tax dollars and the deductibles were in another stratosphere. The big sell was cheap premiums but it wouldn't pay out until you met your 100,000 dollar deductible. What a scheme.
 
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