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[Toddsterpatriot]

44 million people are on Obamacare. 44 million. If there was a better option, guess what? They’d be on some other ******* plan.

If it was affordable, they wouldn't need subsidies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) is considered successful in expanding health insurance coverage, making it more affordable through subsidies and tax credits,

And the subsidies are paid for with the profits from Obama's takeover of student loans.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

44 million people are on Obamacare. 44 million. If there was a better option, guess what? They’d be on some other ******* plan.

44 million were forced to be on it. Before Obiecare they had insurance. You idiots voted for Obiecare to get 30 million people insured. How many are uninsured today? 30 million. The only difference is it now costs way more to be insured. You did this.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If it was affordable, they wouldn't need subsidies.

What they’re telling us is it’s not. And without the subsidies Obiecare is a failure.

 

[wamose]

There's a reason why almost every stadium in the US has a bank or insurance company's name on it. Insurance companies are some of the biggest thieves in America today.

 

[citygator]

Subsides shouldn't be needed, if Øbamavare wasn't the lie it was from the beginning.

People like you fell for the lies, and still are.

Look. You just posted a tweet that referenced no data and you thought it was true. I show you the evidence that everything in that post was untrue. Instead of saying "geez, I should curate the things I believe" you instead just ignore the facts that I showed you and pivoted to just bullshit. 40M people are being helped by Obamacare, otherwise they wouldnt be on it. Almost all of them are low income. Hello? Use your brain.

 

[citygator]

At least try to arrive informed dummy. Democrats are gifting $10's of billions of OUR money to insurance companies with zero requirements whatsoever that the money be used to lower premiums, they just pocket the cash. Now piss off back to your troll cave.

Who told you that? You should slap that person and your 4th grade reading teacher.

The ACA premium tax credits (including the enhanced subsidies from ARPA and the Inflation Reduction Act) are paid on behalf of enrollees, not as gifts to insurers.

Because the subsidies are based on the benchmark premium, they directly reduce what consumers pay. The government doesn’t hand insurers a blank check; it pays the subsidy tied to a specific enrollee’s chosen plan.

ACA plans are subject to strict Medical Loss Ratio (MLR) rules which means insurers must spend at least 80–85% of premiums on actual medical care or quality improvement AND if they spend less (i.e., “pocket too much”), they must refund the difference to policyholders. Studies show that after ARPA subsidies began, premiums stabilized or declined in most marketplaces, and insurer profits didn’t spike disproportionately.

Yes — total federal spending on premium tax credits is tens of billions per year but that represents coverage or premium reductions for 44M people through subsidies or medicaid expansion. Without it, those people would pay full price or lose coverage entirely.

 

[citygator]

If it was affordable, they wouldn't need subsidies.

That is stupid. The subsidies make them affordable.

 

[citygator]

44 million were forced to be on it. Before Obiecare they had insurance. You idiots voted for Obiecare to get 30 million people insured. How many are uninsured today? 30 million. The only difference is it now costs way more to be insured. You did this.

Thats not true at all. Are you thinking we dont know how to read and you can just gaslight people who are clearly smarter than you?

Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | KFF

This issue brief describes trends in health coverage in 2023, examines the characteristics of the uninsured population ages 0-64, and summarizes the access and financial implications of not having coverage.

www.kff.org

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Thats not true at all. Are you thinking we dont know how to read and you can just gaslight people who are clearly smarter than you?

Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | KFF

This issue brief describes trends in health coverage in 2023, examines the characteristics of the uninsured population ages 0-64, and summarizes the access and financial implications of not having coverage.

www.kff.org

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When Obiecare passed we had 35 million uninsured. Today we have 35 million uninsured. **** off.

 

[Marener]

When Obiecare passed we had 35 million uninsured. Today we have 35 million uninsured. **** off.

**** you illiterate and innumerate losers. You can’t read a ******* graph.

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2024/12/Number-of-Uninsured-People_2010-to-2023_FI.png

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Instead of giving the subsidies directly to the insurance companies, you give it to the people and let them decide where they want to use it. Let them choose what type of healthcare insurance they want.

Don't you trust the people to make their own decisions?

Leftists don’t like when people get to choose for themselves because some will make better choices than others and thats inequality.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

**** you illiterate and innumerate losers. You can’t read a ******* graph.

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2024/12/Number-of-Uninsured-People_2010-to-2023_FI.png

I’ll do you one better.

When Obiecare passed we needed to insure 35 million uninsured people who couldn’t afford it. Everyone else was doing fine without any government.

15 years later we still have 35 million uninsured people who can’t afford it plus another 42 million who can’t afford it without massive government subsidies.

So this success you’re so proud has not reduced the mumber of uninsured at all and also added that amount of people who rely on subsidies to keep what they once could take care of on their own.

Good ******* job.

 

[Concerned American]

Riddle me this, why should I be forced to subsidize other's insurance, other's farms, or the shit-ton of other asshole's endeavors expecting something for nothing at my expense?

Subsidies are the devil.

Government getting into healthcare is the devil. If the gov't is involved--the best way would be to tax every person in the US their 1/350,000,000 of the cost in insurance premiums-----or let people choose their own insurance based on their need.

 

[BackAgain]

The agreement to reopen the government wasn’t conditioned upon passage of what the Dims demanded before. It was conditioned on, separately, bringing it up again for debate and a vote in December.

That doesn’t mean that there is any obligation to pass it.

Indeed, this is why the shrill leftist Democrats are so pissed about the 8 Senate Democrats who agreed to the proposed “minibus” bill.

Trump and the RepublicanCongress held firm and the Schumer shutdown caused some pain for over 40 days and — in the end — all the Dems got out of their extortion efforts was a flat out fail.

That said, the 8 Democrats deserve a page in any new edition of “profiles in courage.”

 

[Winco]

And a huge percentage of those subsidies go to well-off people.

I'm well off financially, AND I have no idea why you believe this.
What subsidies?

Are they collected the same way that the "Soros" checks are distributed?


LOLLLLOLL.

 

[Winco]

Government getting into healthcare is the devil. If the gov't is involved--the best way would be to tax every person in the US their 1/350,000,000 of the cost in insurance premiums-----or let people choose their own insurance based on their need.

Yes, I'll provide an AI Overview.

In the United States, government involvement in healthcare happened gradually, starting small and becoming major over time. Here's the key timeline:

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Early Involvement​

• 1798 – Marine Hospital Service: The federal government provided healthcare to merchant seamen. This is the first federal health program.
• 1870s–1900s – The Marine Hospital Service evolved into the Public Health Service, focusing on disease control, sanitation, and quarantine.

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State & Federal Expansion​

• 1912 – Children’s Bureau: Focused on maternal and child health.
• 1935 – Social Security Act: Provided federal funding to states for public health programs, maternal and child care, and aid to the poor.

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Major Healthcare Programs​

• 1946 – Hill-Burton Act: Funded hospital construction, expanding healthcare infrastructure nationwide.
• 1965 – Medicare and Medicaid: Marked the first large-scale government involvement in paying for healthcare.
  
  • Medicare: Health insurance for people 65+
  • Medicaid: Health coverage for low-income individuals and families
• 1970s–1980s – Growth of regulatory roles, NIH research, FDA oversight, and public health programs.

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Modern Era​

• 2010 – Affordable Care Act (ACA): Expanded access to insurance, required coverage for preexisting conditions, and increased federal oversight of private insurance markets.

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Bottom line: The U.S. government has been involved in healthcare in some way since 1798, but major systemic involvement started in 1965 with Medicare and Medicaid.

 

[yidnar]

44 million people are on Obamacare. 44 million. If there was a better option, guess what? They’d be on some other ******* plan.

the better plan or system was in place before The UNAFFORDABLE Care Act sent premiums through the roof ! Premiums have even outpaced Bidens inflation disaster ..

 

[Winco]

Government getting into healthcare is the devil. If the gov't is involved--the best way would be to tax every person in the US their 1/350,000,000 of the cost in insurance premiums-----or let people choose their own insurance based on their need.

So who are you wanting to BLAME for Gov Involved HealthCare?

Bottom line: The U.S. government has been involved in healthcare in some way since 1798, but major systemic involvement started in 1965 with Medicare and Medicaid.

So is it Medicare or Medicaid that you really have a problem with?
Or is it just Obama, and the ACA.

As noted below by Scholar yidnar.
Who OFFERS no solutions, but despises Obama.
Prefers trumps plans of....... "in 2 weeks" and "I have Concepts of a Plan."

 

[HikerGuy83]

Everybody has numbers to prove their point.

Which is exactly why Obamacare is a complete failure.

It's another one of those stupid systems put in place to give the illusion that someone is doing something.

I had to buy a plan for a family member as a bridge to the next coverage and it was essentially high priced high deductible catastrophic health insurance.