12 year old shot at Starbucks in Chicago

[Issa]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just shot her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

Reports here say it was a drug deal gone bad....so....how about we lock up criminals who use guns for 30 years...cause I would bet a substantial sum...that the shooter has a long history of crime and violence and has been caught using a gun illegally in the past...

How about we start there?

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

What's a 12 year old doing at a Starbucks?

Making a drug deal?

Meth latte with graham cracker sprinkles?

 

[Issa]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

 

[westwall]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

There are more than 100,000 KNOWN gang members in Chicago. Until you start treating them like the terrorists they are, nothing will happen to better the situation.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

 

[westwall]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

And bad guys can get them no matter how illegal you make them. Paris shows that to be absolutely true. Banning guns is the tactic of an imbecile.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

A guy in Nice, France used a rental truck to murder 89 people...more people murdered than entire years of mass shootings in the U.S......you are just wrong...again...

 

[Issa]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

No....you just lived in a country that hasn't had their families break down and their single teenage girls raising young male sociopaths.....

Britain and the rest of Europe are beginning to experience this.....with more violence and more gun violence...

And you are wrong...our experience in the U.S. is that more guns do not equal more crime...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Issa]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

And bad guys can get them no matter how illegal you make them. Paris shows that to be absolutely true. Banning guns is the tactic of an imbecile.

Noooope again lived one free gun country bad guys d nt have them. So are woohoo many other countries that don't have citizens shooting each other by the minute. When we have an intruder we call the police, or we beat the crap out him and no one is killed, few bruises and cuts and life goes on.
The death toll due to guns in the US surpassed war zone area like Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan btw.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

Yeah....Britain is one of those countries...except their culture can no longer civilize their young males after decades of the social welfare state allowing young teenage girls to create young male sociopaths....read the book "Life at the Bottom," and you will see that the welfare state is creating more violence in Britain...

Britain banned and confiscated guns..this is what has happened...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .




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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

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as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

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Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

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London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

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Arrests plunge by half in 10 years despite soaring crime rate

The new figures come just days after it was revealed the total number of crimes recorded year on year passed the 5 million mark for the first time in a decade.

In the year ending March 2017, only 11 per cent of crimes resulted in someone being charged. In almost half of all crimes (48 per cent) no suspects were identified.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...f-destruction-as-cowboy-builder-a3668551.html

Former home secretary David Blunkett claimed officers were more likely to give warnings rather than arrest people in a bid to avoid paperwork.


However, others have pointed to the pressure put on the dwindling number of officers, with a 13 per cent drop in numbers recorded by the Home Office between 2010 and 2016.

Lord Blunkett said: "Police are reluctant to arrest people because of the amount of paperwork involved, so officers are encouraged to give warnings rather than arrest people.

"That means people are on the street who might otherwise be prosecuted and it sends a signal that reverberates very quickly, leading criminals to think they can get away with it."

Campaigners have warned victims are losing confidence in police forces that increasingly treat crimes such as burglary and assault as minor incidents.
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Speaking to the Telegraph, David Green, chief executive of the Civitas think tank, said: "The police are unable to cope with the volume of crime, and the 20,000 drop in police numbers is bound to have made a difference."

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

I notice you don't give the name of the country.......how about we start there.....

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

And bad guys can get them no matter how illegal you make them. Paris shows that to be absolutely true. Banning guns is the tactic of an imbecile.

Noooope again lived one free gun country bad guys d nt have them. So are woohoo many other countries that don't have citizens shooting each other by the minute. When we have an intruder we call the police, or we beat the crap out him and no one is killed, few bruises and cuts and life goes on.
The death toll due to guns in the US surpassed war zone area like Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan btw.

Yes....since you aren't putting a name to the country....let me guess....it is a small country with a homogeneous population......with very little violence to begin with....right?

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

And bad guys can get them no matter how illegal you make them. Paris shows that to be absolutely true. Banning guns is the tactic of an imbecile.

Noooope again lived one free gun country bad guys d nt have them. So are woohoo many other countries that don't have citizens shooting each other by the minute. When we have an intruder we call the police, or we beat the crap out him and no one is killed, few bruises and cuts and life goes on.
The death toll due to guns in the US surpassed war zone area like Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan btw.

No, the death toll hasn't....that is a lie that is being spread by anti gunners by including suicides into the gun death number.....

The truth is this....Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attacks......this is from the bill clinton Department of Justice study on gun violence, and the obama, Centers for Disease control research done in 2013...where they found Americans use guns 500,000-3,000,000 times a year for self defense....

Taking the bill clinton number, and multplying it by the year 1966. which is close to the year the anti gunners use to claim that gun deaths surpassed war deaths....

that means that since 1966, Americans used their legally owned guns to stop 75,500,000 criminal attacks.....those are rapes that did not happen, robberies that were stopped, and lives saved from murder....

Europe......disarmed their people and over a period of 6 years murdered close to 12 million innocent men, women and children in gas chambers, firing squads and other means......so....I'll take our gun ownership over trusting a government to not decide to murder 12 million people....

 

[2aguy]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

again..what country is this?

 

[Issa]

A white woman just her two young kids while they were sleeping in Texas....thank God there was a gun in the house.
Sad very sad the little ones were 5 and 7. She woke up her husband to tell him that she just killed his kids.

And she wouldn't have killed them if there was no gun in the house?

Do you always mix drugs and alcohol?

Guns are tempting and fast. Lived in gun free country and we didn' have this madness...im sure if people had guns we would be just like the US...people will get shot on daily basis vs using fists and other non deadly weapons.

Guns enable people to commit a greater damage.

Wrong....people who will murder their children will murder their children with strangulation, drowning, smothering, knives, fire.......so the gun wasn't the issue....the mother who murdered her children is the issue......

Guns in lot of hands call for lot of crimes. So o many of us who grow up in a free guns socieities we understand that.
We didn' have people killing people in work places, in houses, in freeways, in colleges, ect...we only seen it on tv news happening in the US. And we never understood why.

again..what country is this?

Morocco , Belgium, Holland, Iceland, Finland, UAE, Singapore, Australia, be Zealand and many more look at us like some type of war hungry people...u can' open a news channel without seing gun crimes.

 

[Yarddog]

Shooting at Chicago Starbucks kills 1, injures 2, including 12-year-old boy

What if anything can be done to stop this urban death machine?

These people need to keep their drug battles private, course it doesnt work that way. Tougher prison sentences for shooting in public maybe?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Well when it comes to Starbucks I view their customers as pretentious assholes. 7 dollars for a cup of coffee? GTFO

But this story isn' about Starbucks, it's about the human death machines in our inner cities.

were the hell is that Starbucks?...at the one i was going to it was 1.75 for a large....

Did you not order the side of gang shoot outs to go with it?

i live in a civilized area sorry....