1000 mile range, 5 minute charge

[Old Rocks]

Toyota just developed and started manufacture of aluminum batteries with 1000 mile range, and 5 minutes. No fire hazard, no exotic metals, and already tested by third parties. This battery looks to be usable over the spectrum of battery uses, grid scale utility, EV's, residential batteries. Seriously disruptive technology;

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Toyota just developed and started manufacture of aluminum batteries with 1000 mile range, and 5 minutes. No fire hazard, no exotic metals, and already tested by third parties. This battery looks to be usable over the spectrum of battery uses, grid scale utility, EV's, residential batteries. Seriously disruptive technology;

That's a game changer

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

If true, this would be a humanity changing, geopolitical, global power altering event.
But there's been too many "break through" stories like this for me to believe it 100% yet.

A little research seems to reveal the above video might be just one of those over reactions.
Apparently, Toyota is actually on the verge of releasing SOLID STATE batteries and Aluminum technology is still being explored.

 

[justoffal]

That's a game changer

Yes it is.... It's a very big deal

 

[my2¢]

Tesla has been developing aluminum-ion packs not only for new cars but can be retrofitted into their older models, so they don't become obsolete.

 

[ReinyDays]

Mathing ...

A typical EV uses 15 kW-hrs per 100 miles ... or 150 kW-hrs for 1,000 miles ... re-charge in 5 minutes? ... that's 1.8 megawatts of power ... or 8,000 amperes of current @ 220 VAC ... unrealistic in our modern homes ... we'd need distribution system voltages ...

The video starts out with "What if I told you ...", that means it's all make-believe from there on out ... not one shred of truth ... the gullible have to gully I guess ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toyota just developed and started manufacture of aluminum batteries with 1000 mile range, and 5 minutes. No fire hazard, no exotic metals, and already tested by third parties. This battery looks to be usable over the spectrum of battery uses, grid scale utility, EV's, residential batteries. Seriously disruptive technology;

You have a real video from Toyota?

No?

Fake news.

 

[leftwinger]

Mathing ...

A typical EV uses 15 kW-hrs per 100 miles ... or 150 kW-hrs for 1,000 miles ... re-charge in 5 minutes? ... that's 1.8 megawatts of power ... or 8,000 amperes of current @ 220 VAC ... unrealistic in our modern homes ... we'd need distribution system voltages ...

The video starts out with "What if I told you ...", that means it's all make-believe from there on out ... not one shred of truth ... the gullible have to gully I guess ...

I am trying to picture the math? 150 kW-hrs for 1,000 miles ... re-charge in 5 minutes? ... that's 1.8 megawatts of power .

How does the 5 min fit into the calculation? I would understand t=C(dV/dI)..with a constant current source. I think I am off-track.

Power = I*E I feel pretty stupid on these EV deals. A KW-hr of charge is 1000W source charging batteries for one hour? HELP.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am trying to picture the math? 150 kW-hrs for 1,000 miles ... re-charge in 5 minutes? ... that's 1.8 megawatts of power .

How does the 5 min fit into the calculation? I would understand t=C(dV/dI)..with a constant current source. I think I am off-track.

Power = I*E I feel pretty stupid on these EV deals. A KW-hr of charge is 1000W source charging batteries for one hour? HELP.

1/12 of an hour.

150 kW in an hour means 1800 kW in 5 minutes.

 

[ReinyDays]

I am trying to picture the math? 150 kW-hrs for 1,000 miles ... re-charge in 5 minutes? ... that's 1.8 megawatts of power .

How does the 5 min fit into the calculation? I would understand t=C(dV/dI)..with a constant current source. I think I am off-track.

Power = I*E I feel pretty stupid on these EV deals. A KW-hr of charge is 1000W source charging batteries for one hour? HELP.

It takes one hour to deliver 150 kW-hrs of energy ... to deliver the same amount of energy in 5 minutes, we have to divide by 1/12th an hour ... or 1.8 MW of power ... then just divide by the 220 VAC and we get 8,000 amperes ...

It'll take 20 hours to bleed that energy off during normal driving ... to get that back in 5 minutes, you need power ... more than is available in a typical residence ...

 

[initforme]

If its true it would really help humans. It would help the fossil fuel industry as well.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Toyota just developed and started manufacture of aluminum batteries with 1000 mile range, and 5 minutes. No fire hazard, no exotic metals, and already tested by third parties. This battery looks to be usable over the spectrum of battery uses, grid scale utility, EV's, residential batteries. Seriously disruptive technology;

What is the required recharge rate, it seems too good to be true that it takes only 5 minute to recharge a massive capacity battery.

 

[Old Rocks]

It takes one hour to deliver 150 kW-hrs of energy ... to deliver the same amount of energy in 5 minutes, we have to divide by 1/12th an hour ... or 1.8 MW of power ... then just divide by the 220 VAC and we get 8,000 amperes ...

It'll take 20 hours to bleed that energy off during normal driving ... to get that back in 5 minutes, you need power ... more than is available in a typical residence ...

Now why should you need that kind of power at home? When at home most people do not drive more than 40 miles a day. So a 220 volt charger would suffice. But on a long trip, that kind of charging is desirable. Or if you live in an apartment.

 

[Old Rocks]

1/12 of an hour.

150 kW in an hour means 1800 kW in 5 minutes.

The statement in the video is with a very high capacity charger. That is nice, if you have access to one. However, the important thing is that fact that the battery gives a very long range, and lasts many thousands of charges. According to the video, it has actually been track tested on a Camry, and exceeded 1000 miles range. If that is so, then this is a very disruptive technology. Yes, Toyota has also developed a more standard solid state battery. But a smart move by any large vehicle company would be to be exploring as many battery technologies as they can afford to.

 

[elektra]

The video starts out with "What if I told you ...", that means it's all make-believe from there on out ... not one shred of truth ... the gullible have to gully I guess ...

itis as if the battery is all that is needed, no thought goes into how it gets it's energy.

Hopefully whatever technology wins it will not be funded by the demicrat/marxist dictators that have been pushing this garbage.

And as we have said, every electric car is garbage. Now we learn every single battery is now obsolete garbage.

Electric cars, just more consumarism, more stuff to buy

 

[Mac-7]

That's a game changer

Is it fake news?

If true this is a big deal

But the internet is crowded with lies so I’m going to wait and see

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is it fake news?

If true this is a big deal

But the internet is crowded with lies so I’m going to wait and see

Abe Lincoln was prophetic on not believing everything you see on the Internet

 

[ReinyDays]

Now why should you need that kind of power at home? When at home most people do not drive more than 40 miles a day. So a 220 volt charger would suffice. But on a long trip, that kind of charging is desirable. Or if you live in an apartment.

Where you going to find 8000 amps? ... that's 25 arc-welders on one inch plate at once ... or a large iron smelting furnace ...

"What if I were to say" that's bullshit story ... only to gully the gullible ... you have a habit of stating as fact what is merely surmised ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The statement in the video is with a very high capacity charger. That is nice, if you have access to one. However, the important thing is that fact that the battery gives a very long range, and lasts many thousands of charges. According to the video, it has actually been track tested on a Camry, and exceeded 1000 miles range. If that is so, then this is a very disruptive technology. Yes, Toyota has also developed a more standard solid state battery. But a smart move by any large vehicle company would be to be exploring as many battery technologies as they can afford to.

Yeah, the fake video from not-Toyota was hilarious.
Get back to me if Toyota ever actually releases a real video.

 

[Sunsettommy]

After searching through the Toyota's own website, watching this video Old Rocks posted and the comments with the video indicate this is a bogus claim as I can't find hard evidence Toyota actually developed it.


Here is a few comments from Old Rocks video,

"Interesting, but I've also seen a video about Tesla and an aluminum ion battery. All of the video clips are identical to the clips in this video."

"Seems like a fake video. Because I searched the net and didn't find any real news about aluminum ion battery."

"This seems like an AI generated video. I would take what they say lightly. Google says that Toyota just released a solid-state battery with a 1,000-mile range. More than likely that is what this video is talking about."

"Sorry but this doesn't pass the sniff test. Calcualte the Amps required to charge a 1000km-capable battery in 5 minutes. That sniff is the not-too-faint scent of a smoking, incandescent heavy charge cable burning out."

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It is all bullshit!