100% of Economists Disagree with Trump

[Synthaholic]

lefty tax codes

Republicans totally controlled the government and the SCOTUS from 2001-2007.

They had every opportunity to Make America Great and reverse all these "Lefty" laws. They didn't, and you let them get away with it. So you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

[Synthaholic]

At least Ted Cruz hasn't supported liberal causes most of his life.

He was too busy being an Ivy League elitist, a corporatist, and an establishment cog in Bush's wheel.

 

[Indeependent]

Who should we believe? The man that's spent 35-40 years CUTTING DEALS,STARTING BUSINESSES etc or people who TALK about doing these things? I know who I believe in and trust.

His businesses fail, while he's screwing over people he signed contracts with.

How the **** do you own a casino and not make money?

Trump found a way.

Wow! He has 1,000 business and 4 failed.
What a loser!

He doesn't have 1000 businesses. He has a few. Hotels and golf courses.

He is associated with over 1,000 businesses that have already been listed here.
Like any investor, he is rarely involved 24/7.
He tried to help out Atlantic City's economy and got kicked in the a$$ for it by the ungrateful amongst us who are hooked on Hillary.
I'm so glad NO ONE ELSE lost money in Atlantic City.
I wish people would stop being stupid.

 

[Synthaholic]

The minute you say '100%' you are LYING...

...and since the man is a million/billionaire, I wouldn't trust a thing any such economist would say. I would certainly trust him more than a Community Organizer...

His money was given to him.

 

[Indeependent]

The minute you say '100%' you are LYING...

...and since the man is a million/billionaire, I wouldn't trust a thing any such economist would say. I would certainly trust him more than a Community Organizer...

His money was given to him.

Yes it was. And many people who money is handed over to them don't make the case for Fair Trade.

 

[Synthaholic]

Good post. But no one could ever convince me us not having jobs is somehow good for us. Maybe you can?

Because the jobs argument is an illusion.

It costs about $2 to make a T-shirt in Vietnam. It costs about $12 (or more) to make the same T-shirt in America. Even if you got rid of all the government regulations crap, it would still cost many times more to make a T-shirt in America. That $10 difference is money out of your pocket that you could have spent elsewhere in the economy. So that's $10 towards an American job somewhere else that doesn't exist anymore because of the tariff.

Only 15% of America's economy is exports. 85% of America's economy is internally generated. Most of the money that is spent by you - that $10 - stays here. But if you put on a tariff, that $10 doesn't exist anymore, and you are poorer for it.

If you have $12 to spend on a T-shirt or $12 to spend on a T-shirt and $10 on something else, in which one are you better off?

That's because of slave labor. Period.
Jobs are not an illusion. That is pretty absurd coming from a decently minded individual..
You sound like the chamber of commerce just freshly shit you out.
What's next? Amnesty or open borders?

Slave Labor? you mean like what is used to make the most over priced electronics known as apple products?

Should Apple just give away their intellectual property? The electronics may be cheap - or maybe not: those touch screens can't be produced in every electronics shop.

 

[Toro]

Only a matter of time before being called a leftist................And I'm not for SPREADING THE WEALTH and REDISTRIBUTE BS EITHER................

But that's what tariffs do.

If Obama said he was going to raise your taxes and give the money to solar companies, I'm guessing you'd be pissed. But there is no economic difference between that and Trump raising tariffs to protect some other dying industry.

I'm not going to comment on your opposition to Cruz's VAT proposition other than to reiterate that a VAT is better for the economy in aggregate than tariffs. It is reasonable to oppose both.

I haven't read Cruz's tax proposal, but I'm guessing he is proposing to raise a VAT and to lower income taxes. That has been floating around in conservative, pro-free market economic circles for decades.

I'm not a big Ted Cruz fan, but I don't know how any self-respecting conservative would support Trump over Cruz.

 

[Synthaholic]

Slave Labor? you mean like what is used to make the most over priced electronics known as apple products?

And though, here American liberals are using these same Apple electronics. HYPOCRITES!

^^^ I see we've added yet another retard to the forum!

 

[Indeependent]

Slave Labor? you mean like what is used to make the most over priced electronics known as apple products?

And though, here American liberals are using these same Apple electronics. HYPOCRITES!

[/QUOTE]
^^^ I see we've added yet another retard to the forum![/QUOTE]

Those overpriced Apple products last about 6 years.

 

[Vigilante]

Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would ...
www.occupydemocrats.com/conservative-economists-agree-trumps-tax-...
Sep 29, 2015 - Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion, Bankrupt America. By Jesse Rappaport. Posted on September 29, ...

Trump Is Right on Economics - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/.../paul-krugman-trump-is-right-o...
The New York Times
Sep 7, 2015 - about Mr. Trump's platform, his implicit racism and his insistence that he would ... Taxes on the top 1 percent went up substantially in 2013, both ...

Krugman: Trump is 'right' on taxes, economics | TheHill
thehill.com/.../252877-krugman-trump-is-right-on-taxes-econo...
The Hill
Sep 7, 2015 - The economist and columnist said Trump is correct to embrace a tax hike ... I agree. They want all minorities to stay in the plantation. As it turns ...

Warren: I agree with Trump on taxes | TheHill
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The Hill
Sep 8, 2015 - "Donald Trump and I both agree that there ought to be more taxation of the ... Liberal economist Paul Krugman, for example, wrote in his New ...

Donald Trump's Amazingly Conventional Tax Plan - The ...
www.theatlantic.com/politics/.../09/...trumps...tax.../407713/
The Atlantic
Sep 28, 2015 - Yes, Trump's plan would dramatically reshape the tax code by cutting the .... According to The Economist: “If America's Syria-watchers agree on ...

Donald Trump Delivers Center-Right Populist Tax Plan ...
www.breitbart.com/.../donald-trump-delivers-center-right-popul...
Breitbart
Sep 28, 2015 - Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump announces his tax plan during a ... a broad swath of the American electorate, although economists of both Left and Right ..... I agree that everyone should have skin in the game.

A lot for conservatives to like in Donald Trump's tax plan ...
Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...trumps-tax.../df28...
The Washington Post
Sep 28, 2015 - NEW YORK — Donald Trump's tax plan would allow millions of ... The size of the tax cuts surprised many conservative economists and activists ...

 

[Kosh]

Good post. But no one could ever convince me us not having jobs is somehow good for us. Maybe you can?

Because the jobs argument is an illusion.

It costs about $2 to make a T-shirt in Vietnam. It costs about $12 (or more) to make the same T-shirt in America. Even if you got rid of all the government regulations crap, it would still cost many times more to make a T-shirt in America. That $10 difference is money out of your pocket that you could have spent elsewhere in the economy. So that's $10 towards an American job somewhere else that doesn't exist anymore because of the tariff.

Only 15% of America's economy is exports. 85% of America's economy is internally generated. Most of the money that is spent by you - that $10 - stays here. But if you put on a tariff, that $10 doesn't exist anymore, and you are poorer for it.

If you have $12 to spend on a T-shirt or $12 to spend on a T-shirt and $10 on something else, in which one are you better off?

That's because of slave labor. Period.
Jobs are not an illusion. That is pretty absurd coming from a decently minded individual..
You sound like the chamber of commerce just freshly shit you out.
What's next? Amnesty or open borders?

Slave Labor? you mean like what is used to make the most over priced electronics known as apple products?

Should Apple just give away their intellectual property? The electronics may be cheap - or maybe not: those touch screens can't be produced in every electronics shop.

See how the far left will defend their pet companies that exploit slave labor in China...

And according to the far left, profit is "evil"..

Silly far left drone!

 

[Kosh]

Slave Labor? you mean like what is used to make the most over priced electronics known as apple products?

And though, here American liberals are using these same Apple electronics. HYPOCRITES!

[/QUOTE]
^^^ I see we've added yet another retard to the forum![/QUOTE]

See how the far left distracts form the fact that they support slave labor in the form of buying over priced electronics!

 

[Kosh]

Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would ...
www.occupydemocrats.com/conservative-economists-agree-trumps-tax-...
Sep 29, 2015 - Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion, Bankrupt America. By Jesse Rappaport. Posted on September 29, ...

Trump Is Right on Economics - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/.../paul-krugman-trump-is-right-o...
The New York Times
Sep 7, 2015 - about Mr. Trump's platform, his implicit racism and his insistence that he would ... Taxes on the top 1 percent went up substantially in 2013, both ...

Krugman: Trump is 'right' on taxes, economics | TheHill
thehill.com/.../252877-krugman-trump-is-right-on-taxes-econo...
The Hill
Sep 7, 2015 - The economist and columnist said Trump is correct to embrace a tax hike ... I agree. They want all minorities to stay in the plantation. As it turns ...

Warren: I agree with Trump on taxes | TheHill
thehill.com/blogs/.../252949-warren-i-agree-with-trump-on-taxe...
The Hill
Sep 8, 2015 - "Donald Trump and I both agree that there ought to be more taxation of the ... Liberal economist Paul Krugman, for example, wrote in his New ...

Donald Trump's Amazingly Conventional Tax Plan - The ...
www.theatlantic.com/politics/.../09/...trumps...tax.../407713/
The Atlantic
Sep 28, 2015 - Yes, Trump's plan would dramatically reshape the tax code by cutting the .... According to The Economist: “If America's Syria-watchers agree on ...

Donald Trump Delivers Center-Right Populist Tax Plan ...
www.breitbart.com/.../donald-trump-delivers-center-right-popul...
Breitbart
Sep 28, 2015 - Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump announces his tax plan during a ... a broad swath of the American electorate, although economists of both Left and Right ..... I agree that everyone should have skin in the game.

A lot for conservatives to like in Donald Trump's tax plan ...
Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...trumps-tax.../df28...
The Washington Post
Sep 28, 2015 - NEW YORK — Donald Trump's tax plan would allow millions of ... The size of the tax cuts surprised many conservative economists and activists ...

Now you know that posting facts against the far left is not allowed on this board!

 

[jillian]

Only a matter of time before being called a leftist................And I'm not for SPREADING THE WEALTH and REDISTRIBUTE BS EITHER................

But that's what tariffs do.

If Obama said he was going to raise your taxes and give the money to solar companies, I'm guessing you'd be pissed. But there is no economic difference between that and Trump raising tariffs to protect some other dying industry.

I'm not going to comment on your opposition to Cruz's VAT proposition other than to reiterate that a VAT is better for the economy in aggregate than tariffs. It is reasonable to oppose both.

I haven't read Cruz's tax proposal, but I'm guessing he is proposing to raise a VAT and to lower income taxes. That has been floating around in conservative, pro-free market economic circles for decades.

I'm not a big Ted Cruz fan, but I don't know how any self-respecting conservative would support Trump over Cruz.

how do you get around the fact that a VAT disproportionately affects lower wage earners than the wealthy since the wealthy spend a smaller percentage of their income?

 

[Synthaholic]

I also agree that this is much more sensible than what Sanders is suggesting - socialism - the black plague of an economy.

Yeah - Sweden is just dying!

 

[jillian]

See how the far left distracts form the fact that they support slave labor in the form of buying over priced electronics!

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quiet, troll.

 

[eagle1462010]

Only a matter of time before being called a leftist................And I'm not for SPREADING THE WEALTH and REDISTRIBUTE BS EITHER................

But that's what tariffs do.

If Obama said he was going to raise your taxes and give the money to solar companies, I'm guessing you'd be pissed. But there is no economic difference between that and Trump raising tariffs to protect some other dying industry.

I'm not going to comment on your opposition to Cruz's VAT proposition other than to reiterate that a VAT is better for the economy in aggregate than tariffs. It is reasonable to oppose both.

I haven't read Cruz's tax proposal, but I'm guessing he is proposing to raise a VAT and to lower income taxes. That has been floating around in conservative, pro-free market economic circles for decades.

I'm not a big Ted Cruz fan, but I don't know how any self-respecting conservative would support Trump over Cruz.

He proposed a VAT at a rate of 16%. Rand Paul proposed a VAT of 14.5%. Statist countries in SOCIALIST use the VAT to increase money going to the Gov't............It's used around the world....................And when you buy a product it's HIDDEN in the cost...........Once they imposed VAT they were eager to RAISE IT..............and RAISE IT THEY DID................Causing prices to rise..............on all consumers.......................................

I agree with a FLAT RATE INCOME TAX..................and be done with it...........I oppose the VAT.........and I'm not against negotiating Trade one on one as in the past................and get the best deal possible out of negotiation..................It worked FINE for over 200 years until some DUMB ASSES SAID IT WAS BROKEN.

It wasn't broken............... A lot of big boys wanted to increase profits..........aka the GDP by going to third world shit holes while closing plants down in the United States.............that is all the hell this is about.................and MILLIONS of Americans lost jobs as a result.................

The ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS in the deals are THERE FOR A REASON.............THE TPA is LIVING PROOF that the deal will COST US JOBS................as they argue on those LOSING THEIR JOBS as a result of the TPP..................The writing is on the wall on that because they are arguing on how much to pay displaced workers................Meaning they KNOW THE DEAL WILL COST AMERICANS JOBS............................Or there NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN A TPA.

 

[Vigilante]

Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would ...
www.occupydemocrats.com/conservative-economists-agree-trumps-tax-...
Sep 29, 2015 - Conservative Economists Agree Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion, Bankrupt America. By Jesse Rappaport. Posted on September 29, ...

Trump Is Right on Economics - The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/.../paul-krugman-trump-is-right-o...
The New York Times
Sep 7, 2015 - about Mr. Trump's platform, his implicit racism and his insistence that he would ... Taxes on the top 1 percent went up substantially in 2013, both ...

Krugman: Trump is 'right' on taxes, economics | TheHill
thehill.com/.../252877-krugman-trump-is-right-on-taxes-econo...
The Hill
Sep 7, 2015 - The economist and columnist said Trump is correct to embrace a tax hike ... I agree. They want all minorities to stay in the plantation. As it turns ...

Warren: I agree with Trump on taxes | TheHill
thehill.com/blogs/.../252949-warren-i-agree-with-trump-on-taxe...
The Hill
Sep 8, 2015 - "Donald Trump and I both agree that there ought to be more taxation of the ... Liberal economist Paul Krugman, for example, wrote in his New ...

Donald Trump's Amazingly Conventional Tax Plan - The ...
www.theatlantic.com/politics/.../09/...trumps...tax.../407713/
The Atlantic
Sep 28, 2015 - Yes, Trump's plan would dramatically reshape the tax code by cutting the .... According to The Economist: “If America's Syria-watchers agree on ...

Donald Trump Delivers Center-Right Populist Tax Plan ...
www.breitbart.com/.../donald-trump-delivers-center-right-popul...
Breitbart
Sep 28, 2015 - Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump announces his tax plan during a ... a broad swath of the American electorate, although economists of both Left and Right ..... I agree that everyone should have skin in the game.

A lot for conservatives to like in Donald Trump's tax plan ...
Washington Post: Breaking News, World, US, DC News & Analysis...trumps-tax.../df28...
The Washington Post
Sep 28, 2015 - NEW YORK — Donald Trump's tax plan would allow millions of ... The size of the tax cuts surprised many conservative economists and activists ...

Now you know that posting facts against the far left is not allowed on this board!

I do it for the NON BRAIN DEAD...Liberals do NOT fit that description!

 

[Kosh]

See how the far left distracts form the fact that they support slave labor in the form of buying over priced electronics!

\

quiet, troll.

See how the far left drone trolls act when you point out that their pet companies use slave labor in China for over priced electronics..

 

[eagle1462010]

Who here thinks we get a good deal with Cruz's VAT???????????? Who here thinks a $100,000 home should cost an extra $16,000 to buy it.............

By this 1 example alone.............should we allow Cruz to put this in place................................

I'm not a fan of Cruz................if you haven't figured that out..............With his wife being with Goldman Sachs................STRIKE 2.