10 good things about Conservatives.

[rdean]

I'd rather live in America arguing with conservatives than live in Europe arguing with socialists...

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

 

[freedombecki]

Thanks for the kind words, Sallow.

When I was growing up, my parents were registered Democrats, but when I was 6 years old, I noticed a newspaper hanging out of the mailbox one day, looked at it and brought it in the house. I asked my mother "Who is that man and what do those big letters say?" She explained that that was the new President, "Ike" Eisenhower, that he had been America's pride and joy, and she was happy he was the President.

I've wished so often our nation could go back to those days.

Thanks for taking the initiative in reparations of harsh feelings after flamings online about party or the conservative/liberal banter that always seems to drone on in so many words. I still think of America as family, and after that day long ago, I noticed my parents had respect for everybody, not just famous people who made their lives count for something, but everyone.

That's the America I grew up in and always pray for every night.

Eisenhower developed NASA. During his administration, Taxes on the wealthiest Americans were more than 90% and he never called for them to be lowered. He was a man dedicated to the "Middle Class". Many consider that time American's "Golden Age", yet no one today calls him a "socialist". Looking at today's Republican Party, does anyone think he would be a member? Would they even want him? Questions today's Republican Party should at least consider.

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 by antislavery activists. Dwight David Eisenhower used his charisma and star power as Allied WWII Commander to nudge the Civil Rights Act of 1957. He was furious over the Little Rock School incident of 1954, probably because he pinned so many hero medals on black soldiers during WWII. He was a man of the people, and as a Republican myself, I'm very proud of the things he did to try to improve the quality of life for people who still weren't being treated equal. My parents loved him too.

 

[Mr.Nick]

I'd rather live in America arguing with conservatives than live in Europe arguing with socialists...

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

 

[rdean]

I'd rather live in America arguing with conservatives than live in Europe arguing with socialists...

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

Oh yes they were. I remember "cat food" grandmothers. You might want to do a little investigation. How can you be so ignorant? You sit in front of the fucking Internet.

 

[rdean]

Thanks for the kind words, Sallow.

When I was growing up, my parents were registered Democrats, but when I was 6 years old, I noticed a newspaper hanging out of the mailbox one day, looked at it and brought it in the house. I asked my mother "Who is that man and what do those big letters say?" She explained that that was the new President, "Ike" Eisenhower, that he had been America's pride and joy, and she was happy he was the President.

I've wished so often our nation could go back to those days.

Thanks for taking the initiative in reparations of harsh feelings after flamings online about party or the conservative/liberal banter that always seems to drone on in so many words. I still think of America as family, and after that day long ago, I noticed my parents had respect for everybody, not just famous people who made their lives count for something, but everyone.

That's the America I grew up in and always pray for every night.

Eisenhower developed NASA. During his administration, Taxes on the wealthiest Americans were more than 90% and he never called for them to be lowered. He was a man dedicated to the "Middle Class". Many consider that time American's "Golden Age", yet no one today calls him a "socialist". Looking at today's Republican Party, does anyone think he would be a member? Would they even want him? Questions today's Republican Party should at least consider.

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 by antislavery activists. Dwight David Eisenhower used his charisma and star power as Allied WWII Commander to nudge the Civil Rights Act of 1957. He was furious over the Little Rock School incident of 1954, probably because he pinned so many hero medals on black soldiers during WWII. He was a man of the people, and as a Republican myself, I'm very proud of the things he did to try to improve the quality of life for people who still weren't being treated equal. My parents loved him too.

And in the 1960's, confederate conservatives fled the Democratic Party and swelled the ranks of the Republican Party because of their hatred for blacks and civil rights. It wasn't that long ago. Consider around 1964 to 1968 as the "line". Before then, the Republican Party was Eisenhower's Party, after, became Goldwater's Party.

 

[freedombecki]

Eisenhower developed NASA. During his administration, Taxes on the wealthiest Americans were more than 90% and he never called for them to be lowered. He was a man dedicated to the "Middle Class". Many consider that time American's "Golden Age", yet no one today calls him a "socialist". Looking at today's Republican Party, does anyone think he would be a member? Would they even want him? Questions today's Republican Party should at least consider.

The Republican Party was formed in 1854 by antislavery activists. Dwight David Eisenhower used his charisma and star power as Allied WWII Commander to nudge the Civil Rights Act of 1957. He was furious over the Little Rock School incident of 1954, probably because he pinned so many hero medals on black soldiers during WWII. He was a man of the people, and as a Republican myself, I'm very proud of the things he did to try to improve the quality of life for people who still weren't being treated equal. My parents loved him too.

And in the 1960's, confederate conservatives fled the Democratic Party and swelled the ranks of the Republican Party because of their hatred for blacks and civil rights. It wasn't that long ago. Consider around 1964 to 1968 as the "line". Before then, the Republican Party was Eisenhower's Party, after, became Goldwater's Party.

I'd like to see those statistics, rdean. Would you provide them please?

 

[Trajan]

Since I've been coming down hard on conservatives of late..I thought I should post something positive about people with that mindset. I have plenty of "conservative" friends and we get on just fine. These are just my personal observations:

10 good things about conservatives:

-They are great at micro-management.
-They are very well organized.
-They are patriotic.
-They know how to make money.
-They are very loyal and trustworthy friends.
-They value integrity.
-They are detail oriented.
-They are great are parties and know how to have fun.
-They are great with directions.
-They are very well groomed.

Although most of these things are not "exclusive" to conservatives, these are qualities I have seen in my more conservative friends.

I can hope we will all feel better now.

Where I work, they make better salesmen than engineers. The couple of engineers that have been Republicans haven't lasted very long. One had a drinking problem. One was good at managing 3d files, but couldn't learn enough to use the programs. The last one couldn't problem solve. But all three were pushy, opinionated and wouldn't budge an inch on anything. The drinker quit, the one that couldn't use the programs became the manager of the assembly line. The one that couldn't problem solve went into politics (no kidding). In fact, he became a local Alderman. I thought it was funny he couldn't solve even the simplest problems but could get Republicans to vote from him.

stop projecting ...we get it, you're a loser.....my sympathies.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

Oh yes they were. I remember "cat food" grandmothers. You might want to do a little investigation. How can you be so ignorant? You sit in front of the fucking Internet.

Yeah I only sat in front of a classroom 10 years ago dummy...

15 years ago for high school

They were fucking with me then.

 

[hortysir]

Since I've been coming down hard on conservatives of late..I thought I should post something positive about people with that mindset. I have plenty of "conservative" friends and we get on just fine. These are just my personal observations:

10 good things about conservatives:

-They are great at micro-management.
-They are very well organized.
-They are patriotic.
-They know how to make money.
-They are very loyal and trustworthy friends.
-They value integrity.
-They are detail oriented.
-They are great are parties and know how to have fun.
-They are great with directions.
-They are very well groomed.

Although most of these things are not "exclusive" to conservatives, these are qualities I have seen in my more conservative friends.

I can hope we will all feel better now.

I realize how difficult this was for you, Sallow, and accept it in the spirit it was given.

Sarcasm

 

[Mr.Nick]

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

Oh yes they were. I remember "cat food" grandmothers. You might want to do a little investigation. How can you be so ignorant? You sit in front of the fucking Internet.

Everyone was eating cat food during the depression.

Hell my grandfather believes spoiled milk is good in cereal for fucks sakes.. I threw out his "curds" and he went nuts one time...... This is the same guy that will reject meat and eat pure fat and enjoy it.

believe it or not eating cat or dog food during the depression was not that odd...People did it to survive...

 

[uscitizen]

I'd rather live in America arguing with conservatives than live in Europe arguing with socialists...

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

yeah lots of young libertarians but few older ones, why is that?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Take a look at the Tea Party. I suspect the majority live off Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. We call those people "closet socialists".

That's because public schools are socialist brainwashing institutions, where they brainwash young people into submitting to Marxism and socialism.

Even then tho there are still plenty of young libertarians or classical liberals that reject your big government socialist bullshit.

To make your point even more ironic you use the elderly as a shield for your socialism.

"if it wasn't for government they'd starve in the streets"

Bullshit...

They weren't starving in the streets 70 years ago.

yeah lots of young libertarians but few older ones, why is that?

I suppose the younger generation realizes what they have to lose and what it took to crate this nation.

I would believe libertarians are such for their own reasoning or feelings ..

 

[California Girl]

Since I've been coming down hard on conservatives of late..I thought I should post something positive about people with that mindset. I have plenty of "conservative" friends and we get on just fine. These are just my personal observations:

10 good things about conservatives:

-They are great at micro-management.
-They are very well organized.
-They are patriotic.
-They know how to make money.
-They are very loyal and trustworthy friends.
-They value integrity.
-They are detail oriented.
-They are great are parties and know how to have fun.
-They are great with directions.
-They are very well groomed.

Although most of these things are not "exclusive" to conservatives, these are qualities I have seen in my more conservative friends.

I can hope we will all feel better now.

Where I work, they make better salesmen than engineers. The couple of engineers that have been Republicans haven't lasted very long. One had a drinking problem. One was good at managing 3d files, but couldn't learn enough to use the programs. The last one couldn't problem solve. But all three were pushy, opinionated and wouldn't budge an inch on anything. The drinker quit, the one that couldn't use the programs became the manager of the assembly line. The one that couldn't problem solve went into politics (no kidding). In fact, he became a local Alderman. I thought it was funny he couldn't solve even the simplest problems but could get Republicans to vote from him.

Man, the depth of your stupidity really doesn't know any bounds, does it? This has to be one of the most ludicrous accusations I have seen from you. It right up there with your famous "6%" bullshit.

 

[Ernie S.]

I have two conservative friends IRL & we don't talk about politics.

I could see how that would happen.

 

[Ernie S.]

Since I've been coming down hard on conservatives of late..I thought I should post something positive about people with that mindset. I have plenty of "conservative" friends and we get on just fine. These are just my personal observations:

10 good things about conservatives:

-They are great at micro-management.
-They are very well organized.
-They are patriotic.
-They know how to make money.
-They are very loyal and trustworthy friends.
-They value integrity.
-They are detail oriented.
-They are great are parties and know how to have fun.
-They are great with directions.
-They are very well groomed.

Although most of these things are not "exclusive" to conservatives, these are qualities I have seen in my more conservative friends.

I can hope we will all feel better now.

Where I work, they make better salesmen than engineers. The couple of engineers that have been Republicans haven't lasted very long. One had a drinking problem. One was good at managing 3d files, but couldn't learn enough to use the programs. The last one couldn't problem solve. But all three were pushy, opinionated and wouldn't budge an inch on anything. The drinker quit, the one that couldn't use the programs became the manager of the assembly line. The one that couldn't problem solve went into politics (no kidding). In fact, he became a local Alderman. I thought it was funny he couldn't solve even the simplest problems but could get Republicans to vote from him.

Man, the depth of your stupidity really doesn't know any bounds, does it? This has to be one of the most ludicrous accusations I have seen from you. It right up there with your famous "6%" bullshit.

Being a ME myself, I tend to agree. Lib engineers, while creative as hell, seem to lack the ability to get that creativity down on paper. They are more often tasked with managing software than projects and lack the basic knowledge that elegance lies in simplicity.
They're pretty good at writing manuals though, since they believe that everyone else is stupid.
If I were looking to hire a group of engineers, I'd set up a tent at a TEA Party rally where I could ensure I would find independent thinkers.

 

[Ernie S.]

And to Sallow. I appreciate the attempt. I know how hard the OP had to have been for you. Had I tried to come up with a list of positive attributes for Liberals, my list would have been much shorter.

 

[Cuyo]

Where I work, they make better salesmen than engineers. The couple of engineers that have been Republicans haven't lasted very long. One had a drinking problem. One was good at managing 3d files, but couldn't learn enough to use the programs. The last one couldn't problem solve. But all three were pushy, opinionated and wouldn't budge an inch on anything. The drinker quit, the one that couldn't use the programs became the manager of the assembly line. The one that couldn't problem solve went into politics (no kidding). In fact, he became a local Alderman. I thought it was funny he couldn't solve even the simplest problems but could get Republicans to vote from him.

Man, the depth of your stupidity really doesn't know any bounds, does it? This has to be one of the most ludicrous accusations I have seen from you. It right up there with your famous "6%" bullshit.

Being a ME myself, I tend to agree. Lib engineers, while creative as hell, seem to lack the ability to get that creativity down on paper. They are more often tasked with managing software than projects and lack the basic knowledge that elegance lies in simplicity.
They're pretty good at writing manuals though, since they believe that everyone else is stupid.
If I were looking to hire a group of engineers, I'd set up a tent at a TEA Party rally where I could ensure I would find independent thinkers.

Errr, yeah, maybe if you're trying to engineer a new potato cannon. If you're trying to engineer something with moving parts, best to avoid the tea party.

 

[freedombecki]

You know, we've all said less-than-amusing things about our political opponents in the last 15 years. It's not easy for one of us Americans to have the courage to just stop for a few minutes and say something as kindly as Mr. Sallow did in post 1.

He just came out of hurricane Irene that could have killed a lot more people than it did. I'm glad the hurricane softened when it hit the big population centers on the Eastern Board of our country. My ancestors landed there and I probably have a bazillion distant cousins still living there not only of Euro descent, but also of native American tribes.

During that storm, I prayed for all of our country's people to come out better than Japan's recent tidal wave problems (although I prayed for them, too).

Mr. Sallow reminds me of a person who is extending an olive branch after being a part of a storm that could have been a major threat in his area.

I think we should keep in our minds the ever-present need we have in America for each other. If my parents could love people on both sides of the aisle after experiencing losses in WWII, and know lives were given and saved in the spirit of caring for each other's buddies in the service on battlefields around the world. How many lefties took a bullet for a rightie? How many righties took a bullet for a leftie? How many even thought about such a petty thing as politics before taking a bullet for the others in the platoon or being saved by a buddy?

My parents generation came home changed people, a little more respectful of each other. Can't we learn from them?

Somehow Mr. Sallow decided to lay his ego down, put party politics aside for a bit, and let it take a bullet for peace on this forum for both sides. I commend him, feel he is recapturing the American spirit our parents taught us, and hope you do, too.

Mr. Sallow, you are the Poster of the Year at USMB in my book. Thank you for an exercise in making USMB a better place.

It's my birthday today, and I'm furnishing breakfast. All of you are invited to breakfast on me at the USMB Coffee Shop. That being said, let's remember to be just a little bit kinder to the other side of the aisle today, and let's work a little harder to capture Mr. Sallow's spirit in Post 1. America is better off when we care about and help one another out.

Thanks for hearing me out.
And thanks, Mr. Sallow for a great birthday gift for me - the spirit of consideration and adventure for friends on both sides of the aisle.
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[Ernie S.]

Man, the depth of your stupidity really doesn't know any bounds, does it? This has to be one of the most ludicrous accusations I have seen from you. It right up there with your famous "6%" bullshit.

Being a ME myself, I tend to agree. Lib engineers, while creative as hell, seem to lack the ability to get that creativity down on paper. They are more often tasked with managing software than projects and lack the basic knowledge that elegance lies in simplicity.
They're pretty good at writing manuals though, since they believe that everyone else is stupid.
If I were looking to hire a group of engineers, I'd set up a tent at a TEA Party rally where I could ensure I would find independent thinkers.

Errr, yeah, maybe if you're trying to engineer a new potato cannon. If you're trying to engineer something with moving parts, best to avoid the tea party.

Yup another elitist that has never attended a TEA Party rally but feels qualified to assess the people that attend. You must be so proud!

 

[Toro]

rdean, can you think of one good thing to say about conservatives?