Discussion in 'Clean Debate Zone' started by prison/con.net, Jun 29, 2015.
Please explain how that works. Specific examples would be helpful.
Maybe so, but neither major political party holds that view.
Actually, societies can and do decide if others can have some of your money. Redistribution of wealth is not something new or bad. especially when everyone benefits from it, and make no mistake, at least to a certain point everyone does benefit. The key is to not allow that redistribution of wealth to get out of control. That is basically the difference between controlled capitalism and socialism. The mistake hard right wing conservatives make is that they believe nobody has a right to anything they earn. The other mistake they make is that they believe that society has never done anything for them, that they are completely self made, another fallacy.
The gov't does have a "right" to your taxes. You can vote for the people who will spend them as you see fit, but that is the only choice you have. If, that is, you can still vote.
"All dollar bills are property of the Federal Reserve Bank. At the beginning of a dollar bill's life it is loaned to the Federal government. The federal government loans it to the bank. The bank loans it to your boss. Your boss uses those dollars to pay you. The Federal Reserve owns every dollar in creation that says, "Federal Reserve Note." The federal government could tax you at 100% and be justified morally and legally. The things you obtain with the dollars belong to you. Dollar bills are just a medium of exchange. You can't own them.
This all changed back in 1913 with the passing of the Federal reserve act which would have been illegal without the 16th amendment. Stop reading political hyperbole from the 1800's. Catch up with the times. You are behind by 102 years."
So...if I paint my name on the side of your house it belongs to me now? What if I write my name on that dollar bill twice? Now does it belong to me?
I have to disagree.
I know a few hard core right wing conservatives that receive retirement checks from the government. They firmly believe the government has never done anything for them and they should never have to pay taxes.
This sounds like the logic of a 3 year old child but these are grown men in their 60's and 70's.
Nope. Only if you built the house and then loaned it to the person who is using it.
Nope. All federal reserve notes belong to the federal reserve. The nature of our money changed in 1913 so that the government could legally pass an income tax. We had several illegal income taxes throughout the 1800's that were struck down by the courts. I currently have some money that belongs to me. They are silver certificates. Most of my money are federal reserve notes and belong to the federal government.
Again I disagree and would disagree with the Fed.
Do you agree that you own the things that you create with your own hands? (Do not answer. Just think about that for a long while.)
Do if you work for the government and write down on a piece of paper that ya do. What taxes are afterall. Legalized theft.
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