WT7: Silverstein vs the Official Gov't Report

black boxes were found. Transcript from one was used in court. Some of the other boxes were heard by family, others were too damaged.

wreckage from pentagon was taken to a hanger at Dulles that is owned by the NTSB for forensic examination then the pieces were boxed up and disposed of as toxic waste
wreckage from WTC was taken to staten island

pieces were still being found as late as last year over a wide area of Manhattan.

The Flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders for "FLT11" & "FLT175" were never found and in rubble that was sorted for human remains & artifacts, not even a piece of a flight recorder could be found so as to actually confirm the presents of "FLT11" or "FLT175"

Yet you've ignored every flight recorder.....including those that were found. Including those from flight 77 and flight 93. And you ignore them for no other reason than they contradict your conspiracy. You're like the avatar of Confirmation Bias. As anything that doesn't confirm what you already believe, you ignore as fake.

If only reality worked that way.

"wreckage from pentagon was taken to a hanger" Can this be documented? Where is the source for this info?

Can you document any of your claims? That all 43 videos of the South Tower impact were faked? That the audio on the WTC 7 video was faked? That all the eye witness accounts of Flight 77 hitting the pentagon were faked? That there was a single bomb anywhere in the WTC plaza? That there was a single thermite reaction?

Of course not. You can't back up anything you've said.
But as is so common with your ilk, Documentation and verification is only for *other* people. Never yourself. You can't even meet your own standards. Let alone the standards of reason, logic, or evidence. Your conspiracy just doesn't work.

and in the case of any one of the 4 airliners or rather alleged airliners, what documents the amount of wreckage having been recovered? either by weight or volume or?

Why do you ignore the evidence you do have? For example, pictures oh-plenty of commercial airliner debris at the pentagon.......the eye witness accounts of a plane hitting the pentagon.....the radar records of flight 77 that end abruptly at the Pentagon impact site......the black boxes of flight 77 that were pulled from Pentagon.....the ASCE report affirming the damage was consistent with an impact from a commercial airliner.......the genetic matching of bodies from the pentagon matching passengers and crew from flight 77? The plane debris from flight 77 matching not only the same plane as Flight 77....but the exact variant used by American Airlines.

This is amazing relevant evidence that no rational person would ever ignore.

But you do.

You ignore it all, the massive, compelling, overlapping evidence that demonstrates the absurdity of your silly little conspiracy. And then laughably pretend that if you ignore the evidence, we must ignore it as well.

So, um....how's that working out for you?

There are some bits that totally trump other bits, the fact that the official story included alleged CELL-PHONE calls from airliners that were moving far too fast and flying far too high to have cell-phone connections function at all and yet these people insisted that the passengers of the hijacked airliners made these cell-phone calls.... what a crock.
rather much discredits the official story right away. The additional fact here is that if the official story promotes a video of an alleged commercial airliner "FLT175" penetrating a wall just like "B movie special effects" .... and people are not outraged about this? The other bit is that its obvious, ( that is to anyone who didn't sleep through middle school science ) that the towers & 7 were destroyed by planned & engineered events NOT the product of aircraft crashes + fire. The manner of destruction of the towers & 7 could not have happened unless the energy to accomplish the destruction had focus, without focus, you may as well have thrown mass quantities of fire-crackers around the inside of the buildings and set them off at random, to no result at all. Given an examination of the events from a probability POV, it is seen to be most improbable that airliners ( that BTW are not designed to function as missiles and can not be expected to perform as missiles ) could penetrate the WTC walls as was alleged for the North tower & South tower and completely disappear inside. This can only be interpreted as pursuant to a goal of giving the appearance that there were commercial airliners used as weapons but not actually involving any real airliners.

analog phones can be used during flights. With a hijacking, the passengers were hardly concerned with interfering signals to instruments, they wanted to speak to their loved ones. Not every passenger phone was used, but those who could get a signal I sure tried.

I submit to this forum and anybody that has scientific evidence to the contrary please feel free to post it...
Cell phone calls from an aircraft with a ground speed of >200 mph &or altitude above 5,000 ft are impossible.
You simply can't do it! the calls are all completely technologically impossible.
 
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black boxes were found. Transcript from one was used in court. Some of the other boxes were heard by family, others were too damaged.

wreckage from pentagon was taken to a hanger at Dulles that is owned by the NTSB for forensic examination then the pieces were boxed up and disposed of as toxic waste
wreckage from WTC was taken to staten island

pieces were still being found as late as last year over a wide area of Manhattan.

The Flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders for "FLT11" & "FLT175" were never found and in rubble that was sorted for human remains & artifacts, not even a piece of a flight recorder could be found so as to actually confirm the presents of "FLT11" or "FLT175"

Yet you've ignored every flight recorder.....including those that were found. Including those from flight 77 and flight 93. And you ignore them for no other reason than they contradict your conspiracy. You're like the avatar of Confirmation Bias. As anything that doesn't confirm what you already believe, you ignore as fake.

If only reality worked that way.

"wreckage from pentagon was taken to a hanger" Can this be documented? Where is the source for this info?

Can you document any of your claims? That all 43 videos of the South Tower impact were faked? That the audio on the WTC 7 video was faked? That all the eye witness accounts of Flight 77 hitting the pentagon were faked? That there was a single bomb anywhere in the WTC plaza? That there was a single thermite reaction?

Of course not. You can't back up anything you've said.
But as is so common with your ilk, Documentation and verification is only for *other* people. Never yourself. You can't even meet your own standards. Let alone the standards of reason, logic, or evidence. Your conspiracy just doesn't work.

and in the case of any one of the 4 airliners or rather alleged airliners, what documents the amount of wreckage having been recovered? either by weight or volume or?

Why do you ignore the evidence you do have? For example, pictures oh-plenty of commercial airliner debris at the pentagon.......the eye witness accounts of a plane hitting the pentagon.....the radar records of flight 77 that end abruptly at the Pentagon impact site......the black boxes of flight 77 that were pulled from Pentagon.....the ASCE report affirming the damage was consistent with an impact from a commercial airliner.......the genetic matching of bodies from the pentagon matching passengers and crew from flight 77? The plane debris from flight 77 matching not only the same plane as Flight 77....but the exact variant used by American Airlines.

This is amazing relevant evidence that no rational person would ever ignore.

But you do.

You ignore it all, the massive, compelling, overlapping evidence that demonstrates the absurdity of your silly little conspiracy. And then laughably pretend that if you ignore the evidence, we must ignore it as well.

So, um....how's that working out for you?

There are some bits that totally trump other bits, the fact that the official story included alleged CELL-PHONE calls from airliners that were moving far too fast and flying far too high to have cell-phone connections function at all and yet these people insisted that the passengers of the hijacked airliners made these cell-phone calls.... what a crock.
rather much discredits the official story right away. The additional fact here is that if the official story promotes a video of an alleged commercial airliner "FLT175" penetrating a wall just like "B movie special effects" .... and people are not outraged about this? The other bit is that its obvious, ( that is to anyone who didn't sleep through middle school science ) that the towers & 7 were destroyed by planned & engineered events NOT the product of aircraft crashes + fire. The manner of destruction of the towers & 7 could not have happened unless the energy to accomplish the destruction had focus, without focus, you may as well have thrown mass quantities of fire-crackers around the inside of the buildings and set them off at random, to no result at all. Given an examination of the events from a probability POV, it is seen to be most improbable that airliners ( that BTW are not designed to function as missiles and can not be expected to perform as missiles ) could penetrate the WTC walls as was alleged for the North tower & South tower and completely disappear inside. This can only be interpreted as pursuant to a goal of giving the appearance that there were commercial airliners used as weapons but not actually involving any real airliners.

analog phones can be used during flights. With a hijacking, the passengers were hardly concerned with interfering signals to instruments, they wanted to speak to their loved ones. Not every passenger phone was used, but those who could get a signal I sure tried.

I submit to this forum and anybody that has scientific evidence to the contrary please feel free to post it...
Cell phone calls from an aircraft with a ground speed of >200 mph &or altitude above 5,000 ft are impossible.
You simply can't do it! the calls are all completely technologically impossible.
he story...

Many of the passengers on the 911 hijacked jets are reported to have made mobile phone calls to their relatives and others, telling of the hijacking or saying goodbye. However it's virtually impossible for mobile calls to be made above an altitude of around 8,000 feet, therefore these must have been faked.

Our take...

The “impossible” claim is most often associated with Professor AK Dewdney, in a study of his own called "Project Achilles". He actually tried making calls at various altitudes, and concluded that "cellphone calls from passenger aircraft are physically impossible above 8000 feet and and statistically unlikely below it". There are reasons to question Dewdney’s conclusions, though. Read more here.

Phones may be used at some distance from a base station, for instance.

In practice, GSM phones cannot be used more than 35 km (22 miles) from a BTS, no matter how strong the signal.
http://www.itarchitect.com/article/NMG20000517S0169

22 miles would be over 100,000 feet. You can’t apply such a simple rule, though, because mobile networks aren’t designed to serve the skies. Others use this quote as an example of professional scepticism.

According to AT&T spokesperson Alexa Graf, cellphones are not designed for calls from the high altitudes at which most airliners normally operate. It was, in her opinion, a "fluke" that so many calls reached their destinations.
Physics911 by Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven 9 11 2001

Although the full quote tells a slightly different story.

Alexa Graf, AT&T spokesperson, said systems are not designed for calls from high altitudes, suggesting it was almost a fluke that the calls reached their destinations.

“On land, we have antenna sectors that point in three directions — say north, southwest, and southeast,” she explained. “Those signals are radiating across the land, and those signals do go up, too, due to leakage.”

From high altitudes, the call quality is not very good, and most callers will experience drops. Although calls are not reliable, callers can pick up and hold calls for a little while below a certain altitude, she added.
Final Contact


Mobiles at Altitude
 
black boxes were found. Transcript from one was used in court. Some of the other boxes were heard by family, others were too damaged.

wreckage from pentagon was taken to a hanger at Dulles that is owned by the NTSB for forensic examination then the pieces were boxed up and disposed of as toxic waste
wreckage from WTC was taken to staten island

pieces were still being found as late as last year over a wide area of Manhattan.

Ah, but remember: Spammy's conspiracy requires that they were all faked. Every black box, radar record, piece of debris, genetic test matching a body at the impact site to a hijacked plane passenger, video, eye witness, everything.

This is how the conspiracy works: the only 'legitimate' evidence is that which confirms the conspiracy. If it doesn't, its fake. Or as the truther mantra goes: anything that doesn't ape the conspiracy becomes part of it.. That's also known as 'confirmation bias'. Its a classic fallacy of logic. And Spammy's theory couldn't exist without it.

are you blind to the facts of the alleged "FLT175" crash video that was paraded in front of the world as alleged proof that an airliner hit the tower(s)? did you not see the manner & speed of destruction of the towers & 7? not to mention the order of the events, that is the fact that if there was a "pile driver" mass involved in the destruction of the towers, what magic kept said mass aligned over the center of the tower(s) so as to facilitate the total destruction of the building(s).
whats up with that?

Many of us have read the CT and the evidence. I used to work on planes and later ran the supply office at a commercial airport for the planes. I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics.
I'm sure there are others with engineering, physics, pilots, aircraft systems and even forensic among posters, writers, critics on this and many other forums. People who are far from stupid or gullible, people who are objective not consumed with fear or hate. Logical people who check facts, not spread CT and lies to incite or scare others.
Most of the CT on 9/11 are so laughable, but a few can be understood but based on disinformation that was being spread within minutes of the events and not based on facts because there none to have at that time.
We all saw the planes hit the WTC. We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash. We saw the result and followed the investigation of the aftermath. We do not base our conclusions on wild fanatical raving or fear mongering.
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION
 
We know the WTC still exists,

So its down to making absurd remarks about what you believe the "truth movement" is promoting......

There is no "truth movement" only a mass of individuals who KNOW that there is something so terribly wrong with the official explanation of 9/11/2001 that we have no choice but to speak out.

There are all sorts of factions the "MIHOP" or "LIHOP" or whatever and everybody has their own opinion, and I would attribute that to the gross lack of documentation on the subject, where are the pictures of ground zero right after the collapse event(s)? Where is the documentation of the analysis of the ground zero dust?
 
We know the WTC still exists,

So its down to making absurd remarks about what you believe the "truth movement" is promoting......

There is no "truth movement" only a mass of individuals who KNOW that there is something so terribly wrong with the official explanation of 9/11/2001 that we have no choice but to speak out.

There are all sorts of factions the "MIHOP" or "LIHOP" or whatever and everybody has their own opinion, and I would attribute that to the gross lack of documentation on the subject, where are the pictures of ground zero right after the collapse event(s)? Where is the documentation of the analysis of the ground zero dust?

Its more absurd to say millions of witness and all the evidence were faked and that 14 al-Qaida hijackers did not use four commercial planes to attack the US on 9/11
 
We know the WTC still exists,

So its down to making absurd remarks about what you believe the "truth movement" is promoting......

There is no "truth movement" only a mass of individuals who KNOW that there is something so terribly wrong with the official explanation of 9/11/2001 that we have no choice but to speak out.

There are all sorts of factions the "MIHOP" or "LIHOP" or whatever and everybody has their own opinion, and I would attribute that to the gross lack of documentation on the subject, where are the pictures of ground zero right after the collapse event(s)? Where is the documentation of the analysis of the ground zero dust?

Its more absurd to say millions of witness and all the evidence were faked and that 14 al-Qaida hijackers did not use four commercial planes to attack the US on 9/11

The only "millions" that watched the events of 9/11/2001 were seeing it on TV, and a much smaller number of people were physically present to see the events with their own eyes and among that number, there are dissenting voices, some who say "NO PLANE, IT WAS A BOMB" some who tell of seeing a small commuter jet sort of aircraft, ( etc.... ) and in all, "eye-witnesses" are notoriously unreliable, where is the photographic evidence? the videos that allege to show "FLT175" penetrating the south wall of the South Tower are most certainly fake. Speculation about HOW it was done does not negate what was done.

BTW: what is the source of that picture of the Pentagon in post #465? its a really BAD fake!
 
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We know the WTC still exists,

So its down to making absurd remarks about what you believe the "truth movement" is promoting......

There is no "truth movement" only a mass of individuals who KNOW that there is something so terribly wrong with the official explanation of 9/11/2001 that we have no choice but to speak out.

There are all sorts of factions the "MIHOP" or "LIHOP" or whatever and everybody has their own opinion, and I would attribute that to the gross lack of documentation on the subject, where are the pictures of ground zero right after the collapse event(s)? Where is the documentation of the analysis of the ground zero dust?

Its more absurd to say millions of witness and all the evidence were faked and that 14 al-Qaida hijackers did not use four commercial planes to attack the US on 9/11

The only "millions" that watched the events of 9/11/2001 were seeing it on TV, and a much smaller number of people were physically present to see the events with their own eyes and among that number, there are dissenting voices, some who say "NO PLANE, IT WAS A BOMB" some who tell of seeing a small commuter jet sort of aircraft, ( etc.... ) and in all, "eye-witnesses" are notoriously unreliable, where is the photographic evidence? the videos that allege to show "FLT175" penetrating the south wall of the South Tower are most certainly fake. Speculation about HOW it was done does not negate what was done.

BTW: what is the source of that picture of the Pentagon in post #465? its a really BAD fake!

are you an asphyxiophilic?
 
9/11 Whackjob

Nothing like showing a bit of attitude.

BTW: the buildings WTC 3, 4, 5, & 6 had fires that were burning from the time of the north tower "collapse" and sustained damage from said fires, however no "collapse" This can be easily documented with news reports from the day.
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION


"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION
If played in real time that gif would need to be 4 seconds long (2 frames minimum) for there to be ANY motion!!
And at a VERY conservative 400 mph, AA77 would cover almost 400 yds ---- 4 football fields PER FRAME

It's fake any way you slice it- no need for math.
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.


images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION



"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION
If played in real time that gif would need to be 4 seconds long (2 frames minimum) for there to be ANY motion!!
And at a VERY conservative 400 mph, AA77 would cover almost 400 yds ---- 4 football fields PER FRAME

It's fake any way you slice it- no need for math.
the raw footage
 
"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.


images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION



"We saw the security camera pictures of the Pentagon crash."

Who here actually buys the lame excuse for security cam pix from the PENTAGON? The worlds greatest military power has such lame surveillance that all they can muster is the poor quality pix shown that allegedly documents "FLT77" ..... REALLY PEOPLE
your tax dollars at work ..... really lame work from the worlds greatest military power!

2014.03.05-mrconservative-53177e9e73c5d.gif
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION
If played in real time that gif would need to be 4 seconds long (2 frames minimum) for there to be ANY motion!!
And at a VERY conservative 400 mph, AA77 would cover almost 400 yds ---- 4 football fields PER FRAME

It's fake any way you slice it- no need for math.
the raw footage

Thank you for affirming that aris2chat is a charlatan.

Now show us something that clearly shows a Boeing 757.
 
Blame the Jew? The first attempt on the WTC came early in Bill Clinton's first term and the only explosives were set by the terrorists. If the WTC was mined with explosives the timespan would have to be during Clinton's two terms. Since evidence indicated that the 9-11 terrorists planned the attack before Bush was elected you have to implicate Clinton in any 9-11 conspiracy.
 
Blame the Jew? The first attempt on the WTC came early in Bill Clinton's first term and the only explosives were set by the terrorists. If the WTC was mined with explosives the timespan would have to be during Clinton's two terms. Since evidence indicated that the 9-11 terrorists planned the attack before Bush was elected you have to implicate Clinton in any 9-11 conspiracy.

Really, I don't care if its a product of things done during the Clinton administration or if it dates back to a plot hatched during the Eisenhower administration, ( remember the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX warning?) This all belongs in the speculation about how it was done, when we have not nailed down WHAT was done.
oh well .....
 
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Nose, engine and tail on video marked in red. I snipped this from the video just before impact.
The security video was from a fish eye lens which is probably why the size and shape of the plane seemed too small.
As for the plane parts, there was no time to "plant" the part with so many onlookers, firemen, security and Pentagon personnel. Most of the people there would know the difference between plane parts and a missile.
All this CT nonsense is just fear mongering. The boogeymen that run the nation had to have massacred more than 3000 citizens for some wacky reason. Really???
All these years and people are still shoveling this crap while ignoring all the evidence of the plane crashes, hijacking, terrorism, planning and death videos from al-Qaida, eyewitnesses, TV/security videos, etc.
 
"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.


images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION



"I've seen the result of plane crashes and suicide bombings. I've had experience of terrorism by fanatics."

As if that statement wasn't enough, you've confirmed yourself as a fraud with that phoney gif image.

people who are "not consumed with fear or hate"

That is downright f'ing laughable. Where is the hate filled fanaticism and fear mongering coming from??
From those that wish to perpetuate the 9/11 myth, from those that profit from it and from those that use the hate and fear to further their greater geo-political agenda.

images released under the freedom of information of the pentagon was less than a split second. The security video took a frame every two seconds.

70 Powerful Images From September 11 2001 The Roosevelts

CTists say the images of the planes crashing into the WTC were faked as well. Anything you don't want to believe gets tied up in the CT bow.
Testimonies of eye witnesses, people calling into the radio and news organizations, still and video from onlookers and tourists...... everything has to have been faked?
Many of the original FBI video clips have since been pulled.
Yes there was a computer generated video in slow motion to show how the plane crash occurred, but it is very visible not real pictures like a surveillance camera at a distance beyond the gate.

We know the WTC still exists, it was all CG in some studio and 3000+ people did not loose their lives that day. ONLY IN YOUR IMAGINATION
If played in real time that gif would need to be 4 seconds long (2 frames minimum) for there to be ANY motion!!
And at a VERY conservative 400 mph, AA77 would cover almost 400 yds ---- 4 football fields PER FRAME

It's fake any way you slice it- no need for math.
the raw footage

Thank you for affirming that aris2chat is a charlatan.

Now show us something that clearly shows a Boeing 757.
like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...
 

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