WT7: Silverstein vs the Official Gov't Report

[n0spam4me]

like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...

Given that it is a HUGE stretch of the imagination to picture an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at the angle that was said to have been, and then have 99% of said airliner enter the building leaving only the small bits on the Pentagon lawn..... not to mention the fact that the airliner has not been accounted for, where is the official figure of how much either by weight or volume was recovered? one story alleges that most of "FLT77" burned up in the fire that followed the crash, however how do you dispose of mass quantities of Aluminum Oxide? ( that is, something in the tens of tons of stuff .... )

The problem here is that our "leaders" & the mainstream media, have told this great fairy tale about 19 suicidal fanatics, and supplied absolutely no support in physical evidence.
showing people what is simply a few snapshots of what is alleged aircraft wreckage is NOT accounting for the aircraft!

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

View attachment 32481

Nose, engine and tail on video marked in red. I snipped this from the video just before impact.
The security video was from a fish eye lens which is probably why the size and shape of the plane seemed too small.
As for the plane parts, there was no time to "plant" the part with so many onlookers, firemen, security and Pentagon personnel. Most of the people there would know the difference between plane parts and a missile.
All this CT nonsense is just fear mongering. The boogeymen that run the nation had to have massacred more than 3000 citizens for some wacky reason. Really???
All these years and people are still shoveling this crap while ignoring all the evidence of the plane crashes, hijacking, terrorism, planning and death videos from al-Qaida, eyewitnesses, TV/security videos, etc.

Your worse at this than Sklyar. And how do you explain the first blatantly bogus plane you tried to pass off?
Your a scoundrel.
Wait a second...I take that back... Lemme take a closer look. Is that ... holy f'uggin sht it's Barbara Olson!!!

 

[daws101]

like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...

Given that it is a HUGE stretch of the imagination to picture an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at the angle that was said to have been, and then have 99% of said airliner enter the building leaving only the small bits on the Pentagon lawn..... not to mention the fact that the airliner has not been accounted for, where is the official figure of how much either by weight or volume was recovered? one story alleges that most of "FLT77" burned up in the fire that followed the crash, however how do you dispose of mass quantities of Aluminum Oxide? ( that is, something in the tens of tons of stuff .... )

The problem here is that our "leaders" & the mainstream media, have told this great fairy tale about 19 suicidal fanatics, and supplied absolutely no support in physical evidence.
showing people what is simply a few snapshots of what is alleged aircraft wreckage is NOT accounting for the aircraft!

total absolute bullshit!
you don't seem to realize that every time you spew the false accusations contained in this, post, you've just added exponentially more erroneous garbage to the already gargantuan steaming pile of specious falsehoods you have to prove, a thing you have not done in 13 years.
simply put you got nothing.

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...

Given that it is a HUGE stretch of the imagination to picture an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at the angle that was said to have been, and then have 99% of said airliner enter the building leaving only the small bits on the Pentagon lawn..... not to mention the fact that the airliner has not been accounted for, where is the official figure of how much either by weight or volume was recovered? one story alleges that most of "FLT77" burned up in the fire that followed the crash, however how do you dispose of mass quantities of Aluminum Oxide? ( that is, something in the tens of tons of stuff .... )

The problem here is that our "leaders" & the mainstream media, have told this great fairy tale about 19 suicidal fanatics, and supplied absolutely no support in physical evidence.
showing people what is simply a few snapshots of what is alleged aircraft wreckage is NOT accounting for the aircraft!

total absolute bullshit!
you don't seem to realize that every time you spew the false accusations contained in this, post, you've just added exponentially more erroneous garbage to the already gargantuan steaming pile of specious falsehoods you have to prove, a thing you have not done in 13 years.
simply put you got nothing.

What is so amazingly funny about that comment is the degree of distortion and dishonesty the mythers here have resorted to - and they "supposedly" have the truth on their side.

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?
Why would someone need to continually deny the existence of explosions when there are numerous witness accounts and audio evidence?

Why is that??

 

[daws101]

like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...

Given that it is a HUGE stretch of the imagination to picture an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at the angle that was said to have been, and then have 99% of said airliner enter the building leaving only the small bits on the Pentagon lawn..... not to mention the fact that the airliner has not been accounted for, where is the official figure of how much either by weight or volume was recovered? one story alleges that most of "FLT77" burned up in the fire that followed the crash, however how do you dispose of mass quantities of Aluminum Oxide? ( that is, something in the tens of tons of stuff .... )

The problem here is that our "leaders" & the mainstream media, have told this great fairy tale about 19 suicidal fanatics, and supplied absolutely no support in physical evidence.
showing people what is simply a few snapshots of what is alleged aircraft wreckage is NOT accounting for the aircraft!

total absolute bullshit!
you don't seem to realize that every time you spew the false accusations contained in this, post, you've just added exponentially more erroneous garbage to the already gargantuan steaming pile of specious falsehoods you have to prove, a thing you have not done in 13 years.
simply put you got nothing.

What is so amazingly funny about that comment is the degree of distortion and dishonesty the mythers here have resorted to - and they "supposedly" have the truth on their side.

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?
Why would someone need to continually deny the existence of explosions when there are numerous witness accounts and audio evidence?

Why is that??

you've just posted more erroneous conjecture that you can't prove..

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

like all ct nutsacks you've got it backwards .
it's on you to prove it's not...

Given that it is a HUGE stretch of the imagination to picture an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at the angle that was said to have been, and then have 99% of said airliner enter the building leaving only the small bits on the Pentagon lawn..... not to mention the fact that the airliner has not been accounted for, where is the official figure of how much either by weight or volume was recovered? one story alleges that most of "FLT77" burned up in the fire that followed the crash, however how do you dispose of mass quantities of Aluminum Oxide? ( that is, something in the tens of tons of stuff .... )

The problem here is that our "leaders" & the mainstream media, have told this great fairy tale about 19 suicidal fanatics, and supplied absolutely no support in physical evidence.
showing people what is simply a few snapshots of what is alleged aircraft wreckage is NOT accounting for the aircraft!

total absolute bullshit!
you don't seem to realize that every time you spew the false accusations contained in this, post, you've just added exponentially more erroneous garbage to the already gargantuan steaming pile of specious falsehoods you have to prove, a thing you have not done in 13 years.
simply put you got nothing.

What is so amazingly funny about that comment is the degree of distortion and dishonesty the mythers here have resorted to - and they "supposedly" have the truth on their side.

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?
Why would someone need to continually deny the existence of explosions when there are numerous witness accounts and audio evidence?

Why is that??

you've just posted more erroneous conjecture that you can't prove..

"Honest question about 911" discussion

thread starts here:

#125 SAYIT - "Planes did not cause the WTC buildings to collapse but rather the damage from high speed impact combined with HOURS of "chaotic fires" which weakened the structures"
(his emphasis on HOURS)

includes your post:
#131 daws101 - "it was hours 2 hours and 17 min to be accurate ..."

______________

When in fact:
The South Tower collapsed 56 minutes after impact = 56 minute fire
The North Tower collapsed 102 minutes after impact. = 102 minute fire

 

[n0spam4me]

"Honest question about 911" discussion

thread starts here:

#125 SAYIT - "Planes did not cause the WTC buildings to collapse but rather the damage from high speed impact combined with HOURS of "chaotic fires" which weakened the structures"
(his emphasis on HOURS)

includes your post:
#131 daws101 - "it was hours 2 hours and 17 min to be accurate ..."

______________

When in fact:
The South Tower collapsed 56 minutes after impact = 56 minute fire
The North Tower collapsed 102 minutes after impact. = 102 minute fire

After the Loyal Opposition has clearly shown that the official story is a farce, and the fact that nobody had a rebuttal to the above, clearly indicates the state of affairs here.
While some people insist on showing attitude by using terms such as "conspiracy whackoz" The loyal opposition has been presenting facts. Thank U very much.......

 

[daws101]

"Honest question about 911" discussion

thread starts here:

#125 SAYIT - "Planes did not cause the WTC buildings to collapse but rather the damage from high speed impact combined with HOURS of "chaotic fires" which weakened the structures"
(his emphasis on HOURS)

includes your post:
#131 daws101 - "it was hours 2 hours and 17 min to be accurate ..."

______________

When in fact:
The South Tower collapsed 56 minutes after impact = 56 minute fire
The North Tower collapsed 102 minutes after impact. = 102 minute fire

After the Loyal Opposition has clearly shown that the official story is a farce, and the fact that nobody had a rebuttal to the above, clearly indicates the state of affairs here.
While some people insist on showing attitude by using terms such as "conspiracy whackoz" The loyal opposition has been presenting facts. Thank U very much.......

nothing to rebut the combined total burn time of the towers was 102 min= 1hr42 min +56 min= 2hrs 17 mins
wtc 1..2 and 7 are all the same event. no spin no conspiracy.

 

[CAPTCHATHIS]

More like: No accuracy, no honesty, no reasonability, no credibility ....

 

[daws101]

More like: No accuracy, no honesty, no reasonability, no credibility ....

that's a fine description of everything ct nutsacks claim..

 

[n0spam4me]

to take from a sig line,

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/ Carl Sagan.

So, in what way has the evidence supported the idea that there were 4 airliners crashed on 9/11/2001?

 

[daws101]

to take from a sig line,

extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/ Carl Sagan.

So, in what way has the evidence supported the idea that there were 4 airliners crashed on 9/11/2001?

 

[SAYIT]

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?

I don't suppose you could post a pic of what, other than a plane, hit the Pentagon?
While you are at it, perhaps you could post some pix of what hit the WTC on 9/11/2001?
Spammy has been foaming at the mouth that "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and could use some help. Really.

 

[n0spam4me]

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?

I don't suppose you could post a pic of what, other than a plane, hit the Pentagon?
While you are at it, perhaps you could post some pix of what hit the WTC on 9/11/2001?
Spammy has been foaming at the mouth that "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and could use some help. Really.

So in other words, you feel the need to change the subject rather than address the issue about the burn time.

BTW: the mainstream media was the first to assert that airliners were allegedly hijacked and as yet has failed to supply proof that said airliners existed at all.

 

[SAYIT]

Why would someone need to combine the time of separate and distinct Tower fires in order to misrepresent the burn time, making it far greater than it was?
Why would someone need to post a gif of an obviously fake plane hitting the Pentagon?

I don't suppose you could post a pic of what, other than a plane, hit the Pentagon?
While you are at it, perhaps you could post some pix of what hit the WTC on 9/11/2001?
Spammy has been foaming at the mouth that "no planes were hijacked on 9/11" and could use some help. Really.

So in other words, you feel the need to change the subject rather than address the issue about the burn time.

BTW: the mainstream media was the first to assert that airliners were allegedly hijacked and as yet has failed to supply proof that said airliners existed at all.

You are being childish ... again.
You seem to forget it wasn't only the media that saw the planes that day and there are even dozens of spectators who also captured the scene in pix and film. Furthermore the MS media did not "assert that airliners were allegedly hijacked" but rather reported events, some witnessed by millions, as they unfolded.
So the obvious question is: why, if your scenarios are what actually happened on 9/11, must you lie in support of them?
The following comes from a well-known 9/11 CT website which, BTW, specifically contradicts your "research." In fact, they claim your agenda "is to discredit the larger body of 9/11 research through guilt by association with sensational and unscientific approach."

Disinformation Targeting the Skeptics
"...It may consist of ideas with no basis in evidence packaged as shocking new findings that supposedly prove the involvement of insiders... An example is the idea that Twin Towers were not hit by Flights 11 or 175 but rather by completely different objects, such as military planes with missile-firing pods."

9-11 Research Misinformation

 

[n0spam4me]

witnessed by millions, as they unfolded.

The ONLY "millions" watching the events as they unfolded, were watching TV!
Where are the actual statements from actual eye-witnesses? How many videos & photos exist and exactly what do these videos & photos show?

You point to one web-page that has

Disinformation Targeting the Skeptics

and you make the total leap of faith that the web-page is absolutely correct in their assumptions.

Logic & reason dictate that the "hijackings" are totally bogus + the fact that WTC1, 2 & 7 were demolished in a VERY controlled manner, leading to the complete & total destruction of all three buildings. You can of course refuse to examine the logic ....
not my problem, however, I can only hope for the benefit of any lurkers who visit this forum, that they keep an open mind on this subject.

 

[SAYIT]

witnessed by millions, as they unfolded.

The ONLY "millions" watching the events as they unfolded, were watching TV!
Where are the actual statements from actual eye-witnesses? How many videos & photos exist and exactly what do these videos & photos show?

You point to one web-page that has

Disinformation Targeting the Skeptics

and you make the total leap of faith that the web-page is absolutely correct in their assumptions.

Logic & reason dictate that the "hijackings" are totally bogus + the fact that WTC1, 2 & 7 were demolished in a VERY controlled manner, leading to the complete & total destruction of all three buildings. You can of course refuse to examine the logic ....
not my problem, however, I can only hope for the benefit of any lurkers who visit this forum, that they keep an open mind on this subject.

You're kidding, right? You would have me (and all these "lurkers") believe that in your years of "researching" 9/11 you have never stumbled across any of the more popular 9/11 CT websites, all of which dedicate entire sections to disinformation in which they whine about those who willfully or for other reasons (like ignorance or stupidity) dump what you do on the Internet?
Here's another CT Website (TruthMove.org) which also laments your right to dilute or even destroy their message, unequivocally stating:
"... The opposition prefers dealing with topics that can be easily countered, or that simply make 9/11 skeptics look like kooks. Controlled demolition and no plane at the Pentagon are some of the most incredible theories in the movement."

TruthMove - Disinformation

 

[n0spam4me]

OK, so PROVE that there was an airliner at the PENTAGON and indeed PROVE the allegation that the airliner was hijacked.......

 

[SAYIT]

You're kidding, right? You would have me (and all these "lurkers") believe that in your years of "researching" 9/11 you have never stumbled across any of the more popular 9/11 CT websites, all of which dedicate entire sections to disinformation in which they whine about those who willfully or for other reasons (like ignorance or stupidity) dump what you do on the Internet?
Here's another CT Website (TruthMove.org) which also laments your right to dilute or even destroy their message, unequivocally stating:
"... The opposition prefers dealing with topics that can be easily countered, or that simply make 9/11 skeptics look like kooks. Controlled demolition and no plane at the Pentagon are some of the most incredible theories in the movement."
TruthMove - Disinformation

OK, so PROVE that there was an airliner at the PENTAGON and indeed PROVE the allegation that the airliner was hijacked.......

Don't change the subject, Princess. You pretended there are no credible voices within the 9/11 CT Movement who consider the pap you spew here to be so un-credible as to be DISINFORMATION ... an attempt by peeps like you to discredit the entire Movement! When I prove there are whole sections of the most popular CT websites dedicated to trashing you, you quickly try to change the subject.

 

[n0spam4me]

You're kidding, right? You would have me (and all these "lurkers") believe that in your years of "researching" 9/11 you have never stumbled across any of the more popular 9/11 CT websites, all of which dedicate entire sections to disinformation in which they whine about those who willfully or for other reasons (like ignorance or stupidity) dump what you do on the Internet?
Here's another CT Website (TruthMove.org) which also laments your right to dilute or even destroy their message, unequivocally stating:
"... The opposition prefers dealing with topics that can be easily countered, or that simply make 9/11 skeptics look like kooks. Controlled demolition and no plane at the Pentagon are some of the most incredible theories in the movement."
TruthMove - Disinformation

OK, so PROVE that there was an airliner at the PENTAGON and indeed PROVE the allegation that the airliner was hijacked.......

Don't change the subject, Princess. You pretended there are no credible voices within the 9/11 CT Movement who consider the pap you spew here to be so un-credible as to be DISINFORMATION ... an attempt by peeps like you to discredit the entire Movement! When I prove there are whole sections of the most popular CT websites dedicated to trashing you, you quickly try to change the subject.

"whole sections of the most popular CT websites dedicated to trashing you,"
Unlike some people on these forums, I tend to NOT take it personally when people disagree. There WILL be disagreement on various facets of the story, and that is fine, everybody has their opinion, I'm just asking were is the physical proof of there ever having been an airliner crashed at any one of the 4 crash sites alleged to have been on 9/11/2001(?)