Wrong Again: 2020’s Failed Climate Doomsaying

[alpine]

I already stated this back on page one of this thread at post 3

I haven't disputed a warming trend, what make you think otherwise?

ok, lets go to the original point then...

denial of the stupid:
in the beginning: "what warming, you guys are delusional..."
10 years later: "ahhh, that warming, pfff, thats not man made, its normal..."
another 10 years: "ahh ok, we may have an impact on it but not that much, cmon..."

now you can brain fart as much as you like and that other guy can smell it as much as he likes...

LOL,

you again avoided a post 32 refuting your "is it warming or not" crap, as I showed that myself the author and ReinyDays NEVER disputed the warming trend. Told you at post 3 this, which you failed to learn:

I haven't disputed a warming trend, what make you think otherwise?

Your Strawman fallacy argument is boring and stupid. It doesn't pertain to the threads topic at all, which is about Prediction/projection failures, that were made many years ago.

You ran off to a pile of shit Guardian article (post 2) about Hansen's 1988 modeling scenarios as being very close to the temperature range, yet they used Scenario B, which is stupid as hell since that is based on NO more CO2 emission increase from 1988 onwards, as shown here:

scenario B has emission rates approximately fixed at current rates

In post 16, I posted this:

1. [Scenario A assumes continued growth rates of trace gas emissions typical of the past 20 years, i.e., about 1.5% yr^-1 emission growth;

That means from 1968-1988 time frame, but anyone who bother to pay attention as the author did in post 16 showed:

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Emissions grew upward at a greater rate than 1.5% since 1988, it was shown to be 1.9%.from 1988 to 2017. Since Scenario A is the ONLY scenario that allowed for CO2 growth into the future (from 1988) of the three he posted, it is the ONLY one to examine critically, the other two are not worth examining anymore since there is ZERO to reduction of CO2 emissions in them.

Scenario A modeling is a big failure:

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It is obvious that Dr. Hansen's 1988 3 modeling scenarios are 100% failures.

You are stupid as shit,

good thing you are at the 2nd stage already...
i am glad for you...
i know plenty of morons still couldnt make it this far...

3rd stage will be when you admit the co2 is the main cause of the warming trend and humans controlling emissions will allow the climate extremes stay in our comfort zone...

and let me know when you get there...

Ha ha ha, you are making a total fool of yourself here, not even trying to defend the indefensible of your foolish dead on arrival Guardian bullshit anymore since YOU know you can't address the details of my postings, since it zooms waaaaay over your science illiterate brain.

Thank you for your hilarious capitulation.

Cheers.

thank you for admitting the global warming is real and happening as we speak...

you can play and fart in the details as much as you like now...

 

[Sunsettommy]

It has become clear that not a single warmist/alarmist has made a cogent argument against post one article, actually completely ignored 9 of the 10 failed prediction/projections that were in the article.

A poor showing I would say.

 

[alpine]

It has become clear that not a single warmist/alarmist has made a cogent argument against post one article, actually completely ignored 9 of the 10 failed prediction/projections that were in the article.

A poor showing I would say.

and you ignored the whole idea of the research bringing countries around the world together signing the kyoto protocol that in effect reduced the emission of plenty green house gasses that were accounted in the research which you are trying to rip on 30 years later by copy pasting some moron from a conspiracy theory website with your simple limited mind, which probably your uncle jimmy shared on your facebook timeline...

sorry to break the news but your uncle jimmy is not a climate scientist...
he is a used car salesman...

you will catch up with science at some point, just like how you did catch up with the global warming aspect of it...

 

[whitehall]

Pick a date for the end of the world and if it fits in to the liberal agenda to ruin the United States the media and H'wood will promote it. Being "progressive" means never having to admit you are wrong.

 

[ReinyDays]

February 313 ... when Constantine converted to Christianity ... does that help? ...

 

[Dragonlady]

Junk Science

Wrong Again: 2020’s Failed Climate Doomsaying
2020 has been the wildest and most unpredictable year in the memory of most people. But did the climate doom that was predicted to occur in or by 2020 materialize? What follows are 10 predictions made for 2020 and what really happened. As it turns out, climate doomsayers weren’t seeing so 20-20 when it came to 2020.


Excerpt:

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1. Average Global Temperature



1987: NASA’s James Hansen predicts world 3C warmer by 2020.

2020 Reality: Average temp only 0.44C higher.

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The rest of the climate prediction failures HERE

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CO2 bogeyman failed again, when is that boy ever going to get on the job?

Worst wildfire season in Western American history - 2020. That mid-continental moderate rainforest would dry and burn was a central prediction of the climate change scientists.

Worst hurricane season on record - 2020. As oceans continue to warm, it will only get worse.

The polar ice caps are melting, and the seas are continuing to warm. Weather will continue to get more extreme as it does.

Like the spread of the virus, pretending it isn't happening will only continue to make things worse.

 

[Dragonlady]

Pick a date for the end of the world and if it fits in to the liberal agenda to ruin the United States the media and H'wood will promote it. Being "progressive" means never having to admit you are wrong.

Everything you don't want to believe is always "part of the liberal agenda to destroy the United States". Liberals don't need to destroy the United States. Republicans are doing a bang up job of it by ignoring real problems and focusing on political conspiracy theories.

 

[ReinyDays]

Worst wildfire season in Western American history - 2020. That mid-continental moderate rainforest would dry and burn was a central prediction of the climate change scientists.
Worst hurricane season on record - 2020. As oceans continue to warm, it will only get worse.
The polar ice caps are melting, and the seas are continuing to warm. Weather will continue to get more extreme as it does.
Like the spread of the virus, pretending it isn't happening will only continue to make things worse.

Burning coal to post this is helpful? ...

 

[Sunsettommy]

Junk Science

Wrong Again: 2020’s Failed Climate Doomsaying
2020 has been the wildest and most unpredictable year in the memory of most people. But did the climate doom that was predicted to occur in or by 2020 materialize? What follows are 10 predictions made for 2020 and what really happened. As it turns out, climate doomsayers weren’t seeing so 20-20 when it came to 2020.


Excerpt:

View attachment 431015


1. Average Global Temperature



1987: NASA’s James Hansen predicts world 3C warmer by 2020.

2020 Reality: Average temp only 0.44C higher.

View attachment 431016

The rest of the climate prediction failures HERE

=======

CO2 bogeyman failed again, when is that boy ever going to get on the job?

Worst wildfire season in Western American history - 2020. That mid-continental moderate rainforest would dry and burn was a central prediction of the climate change scientists.

Worst hurricane season on record - 2020. As oceans continue to warm, it will only get worse.

The polar ice caps are melting, and the seas are continuing to warm. Weather will continue to get more extreme as it does.

Like the spread of the virus, pretending it isn't happening will only continue to make things worse.

Why are you lying to yourself?

The Hurricane season GLOBALLY was BELOW average this year.

The Antarctica Ice cap is stable and sea ice is expanding again, The Arctic Sea Ice cover has stabilized since 2007.

The West Fire season was a mix of Arson, and unusual Easterly winds that caused it to spread so fast.

 

[marvin martian]

30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansenâs amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

Dana Nuccitelli: Koch paychecks seem to be strong motivators to lie

www.theguardian.com

no credible scientist predicts a single number for a 2 decade span, neither did hansen...
he had 3 models low/mid/high and they were beyond accurate, predicted everything as they happened...

clueless climate retards however take one number out of its context and try to hide their stupidity behind it...

you can lie as much as you like, but the fact is that you cant lie against a warming globe anymore and thats a tell for anyone interested in the subject beyond politics and ignorance surrounding it...

Have you read Hansen (1988)? ... that cute little chart in The Guardian's article has been adjusted using empirical data collected between 1988 and 2017 ... why do you think the predictions made in 1988 are accurate? ...

because it successfully predicted a warming planet, despite all the denial from folks like yourself...
same folks now accept a warming planet but argue on the degree of it...

ignorance is a bliss...
up until you have to pay the price for it of course...

just like how it worked in the case of covid;
anti-science lunatics first ignored it...
then played it down by claiming it would burn out by may...
then claimed it would not be anything more than a flu...
now blaming the people who warned them of the big catastrophe they caused by their ignorance to begin with...

same timeline will follow for the climate change...

You're the reason the global warming hoaxers are still able to peddle their wares (for profit, of course).

 

[Sunsettommy]

It has become clear that not a single warmist/alarmist has made a cogent argument against post one article, actually completely ignored 9 of the 10 failed prediction/projections that were in the article.

A poor showing I would say.

and you ignored the whole idea of the research bringing countries around the world together signing the kyoto protocol that in effect reduced the emission of plenty green house gasses that were accounted in the research which you are trying to rip on 30 years later by copy pasting some moron from a conspiracy theory website with your simple limited mind, which probably your uncle jimmy shared on your facebook timeline...

sorry to break the news but your uncle jimmy is not a climate scientist...
he is a used car salesman...

you will catch up with science at some point, just like how you did catch up with the global warming aspect of it...

It has become clear that not a single warmist/alarmist has made a cogent argument against post one article, actually completely ignored 9 of the 10 failed prediction/projections that were in the article.

A poor showing I would say.

 

[westwall]

30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansenâs amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

Dana Nuccitelli: Koch paychecks seem to be strong motivators to lie

www.theguardian.com

no credible scientist predicts a single number for a 2 decade span, neither did hansen...
he had 3 models low/mid/high and they were beyond accurate, predicted everything as they happened...

clueless climate retards however take one number out of its context and try to hide their stupidity behind it...

you can lie as much as you like, but the fact is that you cant lie against a warming globe anymore and thats a tell for anyone interested in the subject beyond politics and ignorance surrounding it...

And every one of them was wrong. By a lot.

 

[westwall]

Can any of the Warmers explain how atmospheric CO2 heats the deep oceans?

Conduction ...

Heat rises. It's a Law.

 

[Orangecat]

 

[alpine]

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none of them happened because smart logical people did something other than bitching to stop them from happening...

i know its hard for simpletons like you to comprehend but thats the whole reason we study these subjects to begin with; to do something about them...

if it was up to people like you, most of them would happen with probably much worse consequences...

 

[alpine]

30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansenâs amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

Dana Nuccitelli: Koch paychecks seem to be strong motivators to lie

www.theguardian.com

no credible scientist predicts a single number for a 2 decade span, neither did hansen...
he had 3 models low/mid/high and they were beyond accurate, predicted everything as they happened...

clueless climate retards however take one number out of its context and try to hide their stupidity behind it...

you can lie as much as you like, but the fact is that you cant lie against a warming globe anymore and thats a tell for anyone interested in the subject beyond politics and ignorance surrounding it...

Have you read Hansen (1988)? ... that cute little chart in The Guardian's article has been adjusted using empirical data collected between 1988 and 2017 ... why do you think the predictions made in 1988 are accurate? ...

because it successfully predicted a warming planet, despite all the denial from folks like yourself...
same folks now accept a warming planet but argue on the degree of it...

ignorance is a bliss...
up until you have to pay the price for it of course...

just like how it worked in the case of covid;
anti-science lunatics first ignored it...
then played it down by claiming it would burn out by may...
then claimed it would not be anything more than a flu...
now blaming the people who warned them of the big catastrophe they caused by their ignorance to begin with...

same timeline will follow for the climate change...

You're the reason the global warming hoaxers are still able to peddle their wares (for profit, of course).

so you think the people studying the impacts of fossil fuels profiting more than the folks trying to justify the lucrative oil industry eh...

you dont know much about economics do you...

 

[alpine]

Can any of the Warmers explain how atmospheric CO2 heats the deep oceans?

Conduction ...

Heat rises. It's a Law.

really...
and since when you realized this law i wonder...

first there was no climate change,
then updated to no man made climate change...

wonder when the next update will download for you folks...

 

[westwall]

because it successfully predicted a warming planet, despite all the denial from folks like yourself...
same folks now accept a warming planet but argue on the degree of it...

ignorance is a bliss...
up until you have to pay the price for it of course...

just like how it worked in the case of covid;
anti-science lunatics first ignored it...
then played it down by claiming it would burn out by may...
then claimed it would not be anything more than a flu...
now blaming the people who warned them of the big catastrophe they caused by their ignorance to begin with...

same timeline will follow for the climate change...

So you haven't read the scientific paper ... I see ... so your claims as to what it said are based on ignorance ... if the predictions were correct in 1988, why does The Guardian have to correct them in 2017? ... The Guardian article is so screwed up, they actually deleted the link to the paper ... I had to hunt down the abstract ... something you apparently cannot do for yourself ... commercial media leading you by your nose ring ... not a clue about what " 10º x 8º " means ... sad ...

I recognized the dangers of SARS back in 2004 ... where have you been? ...

so what you are saying is: the planet is not warming up...
that must be what you are claiming if you are refuting a study that suggests exactly that...

you probably dont even have a clue what you are arguing, do you...

sars ha...
you predicted the covid would burn out by may...
you predicted it was not gonna be as bad as flu...

how are those predictions holding out for you...

and now you expect people to believe your ill predictions about the climate...

actually wait...
you dont have any predictions, do you...

You can try to deflect ... but the question remains ... did you notice the link in your article is broken? ... obviously not ... you're just repeating someone else's ignorance ...

I haven't been making any predictions about SARS ... more ignorance on your part ... I'm waiting for the science to be published ...

i dont need a link to the study...
i already know what it says...
why should i click on a link to a study i already know the context of...
and what does a broken link have to do with anything regarding a warming planet...
you have nothing other than your fantasies about some broken links and sars virus, which is irrelevant to anything you are trying to argue here...

call me when you have anything other than more of your brain farce...

But somehow you are so unable to answer anything in some detail or address what has been presented to you, you are avoiding real debate, just deflect, deflect and more deflect. It is clear you have nothing cogent to say here at all.

He is right about you, you have NEVER seen Dr, Hansen's 1988 3 modeling scenario paper, the question needs to be asked, why are you here making a fool of yourself?

is the planet warming...
yes or no...
should be easy answer for you...

No. It is currently not. Hasn't been for about 8 years. The so called records that keep being set are thanks to "smoothing" computer models. Actual raw data shows a slight cooling.

 

[westwall]

Can any of the Warmers explain how atmospheric CO2 heats the deep oceans?

Conduction ...

Heat rises. It's a Law.

really...
and since when you realized this law i wonder...

first there was no climate change,
then updated to no man made climate change...

wonder when the next update will download for you folks...

When did I say there is no climate change? As usual the weak minded twerp, you, resort to non sequitur attacks and lies.

The climate is ALWAYS changing. That is a simple fact. The argument is whether mankind has an impact. And, to date, no empirical data has ever been presented that shows man having an impact.

That is a fact.

But we all know you don't do facts.

 

[alpine]

Can any of the Warmers explain how atmospheric CO2 heats the deep oceans?

Conduction ...

Heat rises. It's a Law.

really...
and since when you realized this law i wonder...

first there was no climate change,
then updated to no man made climate change...

wonder when the next update will download for you folks...

When did I say there is no climate change? As usual the weak minded twerp, you, resort to non sequitur attacks and lies.

The climate is ALWAYS changing. That is a simple fact. The argument is whether mankind has an impact. And, to date, no empirical data has ever been presented that shows man having an impact.

That is a fact.

But we all know you don't do facts.

you never said anything...
you have no mind...
you are merely parroting what your uncle jimmy shared in his facebook timeline from a moron who is babbling some conspiracy theories from his basement..
but your uncle jimmy is not a climate scientist...
he is a used car salesman...