Would the founding fathers would consider America a failure?

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Does present day America reflect the founding fathers vision?

Poll closed Oct 18, 2013.
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  2. No

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    Oh HELL yes... that's a no brainer. Obama himself has violated the U.S. Constitution on dozens of occasions. Do you think the founders would find even one instance acceptable? Not a chance in hell...

    They are literally rolling over in their graves and have been doing so since the turn of the last century.
     
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    The American experiment at principled self government began to unravel when Jefferson actively undermined the Presidency of John Adams. The ensuing trend towards political partisanship has now reached its zenith.
     
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    Without a doubt.
     
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    Do you care to elaborate? I'm undecided but would love to hear why you think otherwise.
     
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    I honestly can't call it.
     
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    They'd be fucking amazed what with flush toilets and cold beer and all.
     
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    Sure.

    We've discarded this view in favor of an elite aristocracy that runs a mean game of corporatism over the American people. He probably is rolling in his grave.

    Speaks for itself. I could go on all day at this and include letters, quotes, articles, etc.. that would clearly deliniate why the founders would not only consider what this nation has become as a failure, but a grave danger to liberty.
     
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