Women sexually assaulted by hundreds of Arab or N. African men in Cologne

When I dropped in to this thread, I did not realize that it was a Trump rally. Having left my white robe and hood at home, I feel somewhat out of place, so ya'll keep telling each other scary campfire stories while I find somewhere to light where the fear is not palatable....


Typical lib, when confronted with a Truth you can't spin and the cons refuse to let you lie it away, play the Race Card.

THe crimes in the OP happened.

It was done by a gang of Muslims.

It was not something that happens normally.


The child rape rings I pointed out to you were real, and a result of Muslim Immigration.

And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?

:rolleyes-41:
 
When I dropped in to this thread, I did not realize that it was a Trump rally. Having left my white robe and hood at home, I feel somewhat out of place, so ya'll keep telling each other scary campfire stories while I find somewhere to light where the fear is not palatable....


Typical lib, when confronted with a Truth you can't spin and the cons refuse to let you lie it away, play the Race Card.

THe crimes in the OP happened.

It was done by a gang of Muslims.

It was not something that happens normally.


The child rape rings I pointed out to you were real, and a result of Muslim Immigration.

And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?


I have an understanding of the likely religion of "arab and north african men" who would be found committing mass sex assaults in Germany.

Algeria for example, is 95% Muslim. Egypt, with it's coptics is a mere 90% muslim.


YOur denial is strong.

THe citizens of the West were not allowed to have a real debate about Third World Immigration before it was made policy.

Any attempt at debate was shut down by lies and Political Correctness.

Now, far too late, we can see the results of these policies and they are utter disasters.

Time for new policies to attempt to limit, contain, reverse the damage of your lib policies.
 
When I dropped in to this thread, I did not realize that it was a Trump rally. Having left my white robe and hood at home, I feel somewhat out of place, so ya'll keep telling each other scary campfire stories while I find somewhere to light where the fear is not palatable....


Typical lib, when confronted with a Truth you can't spin and the cons refuse to let you lie it away, play the Race Card.

THe crimes in the OP happened.

It was done by a gang of Muslims.

It was not something that happens normally.


The child rape rings I pointed out to you were real, and a result of Muslim Immigration.

And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?






How about this then. A senior Police officer Wolfgang Albers was forced to retire when it was found that he had removed references to the attackers refugee and asylum seeker status from the original police report. His underlings knew that dozens of Syrian and African asylum seekers were involved but said nothing in a bid to keep a lid on racial tensions. One suspect had Arabic-German translations for such phrases as beautiful breasts and I'll kill you.




Cologne sex attacks: Police chief Wolfgang Albers 'sacked' following heavy criticism


Cologne's police chief has been suspended


Cologne police chief suspended after New Year assaults
 
"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.
Seems like the libturds on here think it's racist to acknowledge and discuss crimes committed by Muslims. Where will it all end? Lol.






With the end of the neo Marxist champagne socialist elite being hounded out of Europe and the decent people reclaiming their human rights. It is not racism to report Islamic violence, rape and mass murder, it is a public service .

I hear that 8,600 males in Köln have joined the new citizens patrol, they have their first meeting today, Saturday, they've set this patrol up, in their words to "defend our ladies of Köln against attack".

Also a lot of males are setting up an identical thing in Düsseldorf.

This is exactly what we have been hoping for. To these Patriotic and chivalrous men, we say Gott segne Sie....God Bless You.

The disgusting Traitors have condemned these brave men for setting up these patrols. The payback for the Traitors is going to be brutal.





This was tried in the UK when the authorities refused to do anything about the grooming of children by muslim gangs, the police arrested the groups and held them for 48 hours. Many lost their jobs as a result so the practise fizzled out because of neo Marxist influence on justice
 
When I dropped in to this thread, I did not realize that it was a Trump rally. Having left my white robe and hood at home, I feel somewhat out of place, so ya'll keep telling each other scary campfire stories while I find somewhere to light where the fear is not palatable....


Typical lib, when confronted with a Truth you can't spin and the cons refuse to let you lie it away, play the Race Card.

THe crimes in the OP happened.

It was done by a gang of Muslims.

It was not something that happens normally.


The child rape rings I pointed out to you were real, and a result of Muslim Immigration.

And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?






How about this then. A senior Police officer Wolfgang Albers was forced to retire when it was found that he had removed references to the attackers refugee and asylum seeker status from the original police report. His underlings knew that dozens of Syrian and African asylum seekers were involved but said nothing in a bid to keep a lid on racial tensions. One suspect had Arabic-German translations for such phrases as beautiful breasts and I'll kill you.




Cologne sex attacks: Police chief Wolfgang Albers 'sacked' following heavy criticism


Cologne's police chief has been suspended


Cologne police chief suspended after New Year assaults



Normal response from the government, cover up to avoid "fanning racism" or "opinion against immigrants".


But, shouldn't the voters have the facts when they are voting?

The Political Elite of the West today certainly does NOT think so.
 
Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.
Seems like the libturds on here think it's racist to acknowledge and discuss crimes committed by Muslims. Where will it all end? Lol.






With the end of the neo Marxist champagne socialist elite being hounded out of Europe and the decent people reclaiming their human rights. It is not racism to report Islamic violence, rape and mass murder, it is a public service .

I hear that 8,600 males in Köln have joined the new citizens patrol, they have their first meeting today, Saturday, they've set this patrol up, in their words to "defend our ladies of Köln against attack".

Also a lot of males are setting up an identical thing in Düsseldorf.

This is exactly what we have been hoping for. To these Patriotic and chivalrous men, we say Gott segne Sie....God Bless You.

The disgusting Traitors have condemned these brave men for setting up these patrols. The payback for the Traitors is going to be brutal.





This was tried in the UK when the authorities refused to do anything about the grooming of children by muslim gangs, the police arrested the groups and held them for 48 hours. Many lost their jobs as a result so the practise fizzled out because of neo Marxist influence on justice


And libs wonder why we cons are angry.
 
Well, it it is in Breitbart, it MUST be true!


From the BBC, for you.

Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 children exploited, report finds - BBC News

"Prof Jay said: "No-one knows the true scale of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years. Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013."

Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered."

The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone"."


"James Vincent, BBC Look North

The scale of this report is simply staggering and some of the detail extremely hard to read.

It lays out how Rotherham Council and the police knew about the level of child sexual exploitation in the town, but didn't do anything about it.

They either didn't believe what they were being told, played it down, or were too nervous to act. The failures, the report says, are blatant.

The report estimates 1,400 children were sexually exploited over 16 years, with one young person telling the report's author that gang rape was a usual part of growing up in Rotherham."



"Maggie Atkinson, children's commissioner for England, said the number of identified child victims was "largely consistent" with the findings of their own national inquiry into "child sexual exploitation in gangs and groups".


Tilly is right, and you are wrong.

Ok, Correll, let's look at this closer.

1. They were supposedly attacked by "Asian men". Not Muslims. not Syrian refugees, Asian. What is an "Asian man"? Japanese? Vietnamese? Chinese? Filipino?

2. On what basis did they blame "Asian men"? None, that I can see. Not one bit of documentation of how they arrived at that term. Apparently, all of them look alike to them, since they do not even differentiate between Asian races.

Total hogwash.


"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.

"Thousands" huh? Two now qualifies as "thousands", does it?

Hype much?

And btw ------ in what way is rape a religious act?
 
Pogo, be aware. You have entered a logic free zone. Trump reigns here, so throw all logic out the window, and prepared to be terrified of everything, everywhere. Grab your wife and daughter and lock them up, because if the Mexicans don't rape them, the Muslims will....
 
Typical lib, when confronted with a Truth you can't spin and the cons refuse to let you lie it away, play the Race Card.

THe crimes in the OP happened.

It was done by a gang of Muslims.

It was not something that happens normally.


The child rape rings I pointed out to you were real, and a result of Muslim Immigration.

And this is just the tip of the ice berg.

You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?






How about this then. A senior Police officer Wolfgang Albers was forced to retire when it was found that he had removed references to the attackers refugee and asylum seeker status from the original police report. His underlings knew that dozens of Syrian and African asylum seekers were involved but said nothing in a bid to keep a lid on racial tensions. One suspect had Arabic-German translations for such phrases as beautiful breasts and I'll kill you.




Cologne sex attacks: Police chief Wolfgang Albers 'sacked' following heavy criticism


Cologne's police chief has been suspended


Cologne police chief suspended after New Year assaults



Normal response from the government, cover up to avoid "fanning racism" or "opinion against immigrants".


But, shouldn't the voters have the facts when they are voting?

The Political Elite of the West today certainly does NOT think so.





Yet they don't cover up when it is the "minorities" that could be inflamed by actions or words, in those cases they fan the flames because they can contain 1,000 across the country better than they could contain 1 million.
 
From the BBC, for you.

Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 children exploited, report finds - BBC News

"Prof Jay said: "No-one knows the true scale of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years. Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013."

Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered."

The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone"."


"James Vincent, BBC Look North

The scale of this report is simply staggering and some of the detail extremely hard to read.

It lays out how Rotherham Council and the police knew about the level of child sexual exploitation in the town, but didn't do anything about it.

They either didn't believe what they were being told, played it down, or were too nervous to act. The failures, the report says, are blatant.

The report estimates 1,400 children were sexually exploited over 16 years, with one young person telling the report's author that gang rape was a usual part of growing up in Rotherham."



"Maggie Atkinson, children's commissioner for England, said the number of identified child victims was "largely consistent" with the findings of their own national inquiry into "child sexual exploitation in gangs and groups".


Tilly is right, and you are wrong.

Ok, Correll, let's look at this closer.

1. They were supposedly attacked by "Asian men". Not Muslims. not Syrian refugees, Asian. What is an "Asian man"? Japanese? Vietnamese? Chinese? Filipino?

2. On what basis did they blame "Asian men"? None, that I can see. Not one bit of documentation of how they arrived at that term. Apparently, all of them look alike to them, since they do not even differentiate between Asian races.

Total hogwash.


"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.

"Thousands" huh? Two now qualifies as "thousands", does it?

Hype much?

And btw ------ in what way is rape a religious act?



So you have not taken in the reports posted showing that the atrocity was not just centred on one small town but was endemic all over the country. With an average of 1,000 in each town being raped by Pakistani muslims. This makes the numbers on the high side and of great concern to the people of the UK.

You ask how rape is a religious act, then look no further than the trial transcripts were it is shown the muslim child rapists were acting on their religious teachings. Look them up in the koran and hadiths and that way you will see that it is not a made up story.
 
Pogo, be aware. You have entered a logic free zone. Trump reigns here, so throw all logic out the window, and prepared to be terrified of everything, everywhere. Grab your wife and daughter and lock them up, because if the Mexicans don't rape them, the Muslims will....






Is that before or after the red necks and biker outlaws have had their fill of them.....................
 
From the BBC, for you.

Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 children exploited, report finds - BBC News

"Prof Jay said: "No-one knows the true scale of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years. Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013."

Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered."

The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone"."


"James Vincent, BBC Look North

The scale of this report is simply staggering and some of the detail extremely hard to read.

It lays out how Rotherham Council and the police knew about the level of child sexual exploitation in the town, but didn't do anything about it.

They either didn't believe what they were being told, played it down, or were too nervous to act. The failures, the report says, are blatant.

The report estimates 1,400 children were sexually exploited over 16 years, with one young person telling the report's author that gang rape was a usual part of growing up in Rotherham."



"Maggie Atkinson, children's commissioner for England, said the number of identified child victims was "largely consistent" with the findings of their own national inquiry into "child sexual exploitation in gangs and groups".


Tilly is right, and you are wrong.

Ok, Correll, let's look at this closer.

1. They were supposedly attacked by "Asian men". Not Muslims. not Syrian refugees, Asian. What is an "Asian man"? Japanese? Vietnamese? Chinese? Filipino?

2. On what basis did they blame "Asian men"? None, that I can see. Not one bit of documentation of how they arrived at that term. Apparently, all of them look alike to them, since they do not even differentiate between Asian races.

Total hogwash.


"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.

"Thousands" huh? Two now qualifies as "thousands", does it?

Hype much?

And btw ------ in what way is rape a religious act?



There was a reference to the problem of rape rings in the UK, where thousands of young girls have been raped by Muslim Immigrants.

It is relevant in that it is also a result of Third World Immigration.

"Religious act"? I don't know or care what you are trying to do there. Some libs have been trying to deny the obvious truth that these specific crimes, both in Cologne and the UK are being committed by Muslims so I was responding to that pathetic defense.

If you are unfamiliar with the Rape Ring Scandals in the UK, I strongly urge you to read up on them. They are incredible real word examples of the human cost when Political Correctness prevents serious discussion of policy and libs get to do what they want.
 
Pogo, be aware. You have entered a logic free zone. Trump reigns here, so throw all logic out the window, and prepared to be terrified of everything, everywhere. Grab your wife and daughter and lock them up, because if the Mexicans don't rape them, the Muslims will....


Dude, you are embarrassing yourself.
 
You guys have really got me frightened about this. I'm going to play Bridge this afternoon, but there is a guy who plays by the name of Achmed. I'm packing my 9 MM, and my K-bar from now on....


Your ridicule doesn't change the facts.

This thread, in the beginning had multiple libs denying that this was unusual or that they were muslims.


As more and more information was revealed, both points were shown to be completely false.

This is a result of the policy of Third World Immigration.

And you libs are furious at the idea that we want to judge your lib policies by their results.

Curious as to how you know they were Muslims. Were they card carrying Muslims, or maybe waving Quorans while raping, or were they chanting stuff about Allah and Muhammad at the time?






How about this then. A senior Police officer Wolfgang Albers was forced to retire when it was found that he had removed references to the attackers refugee and asylum seeker status from the original police report. His underlings knew that dozens of Syrian and African asylum seekers were involved but said nothing in a bid to keep a lid on racial tensions. One suspect had Arabic-German translations for such phrases as beautiful breasts and I'll kill you.




Cologne sex attacks: Police chief Wolfgang Albers 'sacked' following heavy criticism


Cologne's police chief has been suspended


Cologne police chief suspended after New Year assaults



Normal response from the government, cover up to avoid "fanning racism" or "opinion against immigrants".


But, shouldn't the voters have the facts when they are voting?

The Political Elite of the West today certainly does NOT think so.





Yet they don't cover up when it is the "minorities" that could be inflamed by actions or words, in those cases they fan the flames because they can contain 1,000 across the country better than they could contain 1 million.


I don't think that is why they do that.

I think it is because they want, NEED to support their Myth of their nations being Racist, so as to keep their support from liberals and from those poor minorities that they are supposedly "protecting" from the larger supposedly racist society.


And the horrible cost is just swept under the rug of Denial.
 
Ok, Correll, let's look at this closer.

1. They were supposedly attacked by "Asian men". Not Muslims. not Syrian refugees, Asian. What is an "Asian man"? Japanese? Vietnamese? Chinese? Filipino?

2. On what basis did they blame "Asian men"? None, that I can see. Not one bit of documentation of how they arrived at that term. Apparently, all of them look alike to them, since they do not even differentiate between Asian races.

Total hogwash.


"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.

"Thousands" huh? Two now qualifies as "thousands", does it?

Hype much?

And btw ------ in what way is rape a religious act?



There was a reference to the problem of rape rings in the UK, where thousands of young girls have been raped by Muslim Immigrants.

It is relevant in that it is also a result of Third World Immigration.

"Religious act"? I don't know or care what you are trying to do there. Some libs have been trying to deny the obvious truth that these specific crimes, both in Cologne and the UK are being committed by Muslims so I was responding to that pathetic defense.

If you are unfamiliar with the Rape Ring Scandals in the UK, I strongly urge you to read up on them. They are incredible real word examples of the human cost when Political Correctness prevents serious discussion of policy and libs get to do what they want.

These guys in Europe are awfully busy! When I first started browsing over here, there there were hundreds of sexual assaults and one rape in Germany. Now, there are thousands of rapes in Britain! by tomorrow, there will have been millions of rapes in Detroit!

No kidding, guys, do you ever listen to yourselves? Trump tells us that the Mexican illegal immigrants are rapists. The Muslims are rapists. the Mexicans are drug dealers. The Muslims are terrorists. Even a kid who builds a clock is a terrorist trainee. Black people are thugs and welfare queens. Democrats are going to take your guns. Islamics are going to legalize Shari law. The left is making war on Christmas...and Christianity. So are the atheists. Transgenders are going to accost you in the rest room. The government is going to poison your children with vaccines and fluoridation. The government is going to set up death panels at insurance companies. Mosques are actually terrorist training bases. Even Starbucks is taking away your snowflake cups. The BLM is going to drive ranchers into bankruptcy and poverty. I saw a thread last year that went on for 3 months about the loss our our liberty to use incandescent light bulbs. Gays have an agenda to fundamentally change all of your traditional values. Is there ANYTHING that you guys are not afraid of, and outraged about?
 
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"In 2010, five men of Pakistani heritage were found guilty of a series of sexual offences against girls as young as twelve."


"It conservatively estimated that 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by gangs of British-Pakistani men."

"Members of the British-Pakistani community condemned both the sexual abuse and the fact that it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism."


"In September 2012, investigations by The Times based on confidential police and social services documents, found that abuse had been much more widespread than acknowledged.[22][23] It uncovered systematic abuse of white girls by some Asian men (mostly of Pakistani origin)[24] in Rotherham for which people were not being prosecuted"


"The newspaper cited a 2010 report by the police intelligence bureau which discussed "a problem with networks of Asian offenders both locally and nationally" which was "particularly stressed in Sheffield and even more so in Rotherham, where there appears to be a significant problem with networks of Asian males exploiting young white females".[23][26] It also referred to a document from the Rotherham Safeguarding Children Board that reported the "crimes had 'cultural characteristics...which are locally sensitive in terms of diversity'"





"Lord Ahmed called for mosque leaders in South Yorkshire to highlight the problem of sexual abuse.[27] He said the issue was a "new phenomenon within the Asian community" and that "it's important that the community, rather than going silent... talk about it."[27] Muhbeen Hussain, founder of Rotherham Muslim Youth group, said all communities denounced the abuse and that "we need Muslim leaders to go out there and condemn this and make it clear it's wrong."[27] The chairman of the Pakistan and Muslim Centre in Sheffield, Mohammed Ali said the South Yorkshire mosques, the imams and the committee members had discussed this situation that "needs to be tackled."[27]

In November 2012, Rotherham Council identified 58 possible victims of sexual abuse.[28] The director of Children and Young People's Services attributed the rise from 50 the previous year to increased public awareness.[28] A national report by the Office of Children's Commissioner, also published in November, found that thousands of children were sexually abused by gangs in England each year.[28]"



"In January 2013, the head of Rotherham Council, Martin Kimber, was summoned to the select committee to explain the lack of arrests for sexual abuse, despite South Yorkshire Police saying it was conducting several investigations and the council having identified 58 young girls at risk.[25] MP Keith Vazquestioned why, after five Asian men were jailed in 2010, more was not being done: "In Lancashire there were 100 prosecutions the year before last, in South Yorkshire there were no prosecutions". The council apologised for the "systemic failure" that had "let down" the victims of child sexual abuse"




"Three previous inquiries—in 2002, 2003 and 2006[29]—had presented similar findings but, according to the report, had been "effectively suppressed" because officials "did not believe the data".[5] Dr Angie Heal, a strategic drugs analyst who had prepared the 2003 report, had noted three years after its publication—according to Professor Jay—that "the appeal of organised sexual exploitation for Asian gangs had changed. In the past, it had been for their personal gratification, whereas now it offered 'career and financial opportunities to young Asian men who got involved'."


"Because the majority of perpetrators were Asian of Pakistani heritage, several council staff described themselves as being nervous about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others, the report noted, "remembered clear direction from their managers" not to make such identification.[31] One Home Office researcher, attempting to raise concerns with senior police officers in 2002 about the level of abuse, was told not to do so again, and was subsequently suspended and sidelined.[32] The researcher told BBC Panorama that:


... she had been accused of being insensitive when she told one official that most of the perpetrators were from Rotherham's Pakistani community. A female colleague talked to her about the incident. "She said you must never refer to that again – you must never refer to Asian men. "And her other response was to book me on a two-day ethnicity and diversity course to raise my awareness of ethnic issues."["





"Denis MacShane, MP for Rotherham between 1994 and his resignation in 2012, said in a BBC radio interview that that no-one had come to him with child abuse allegations during that period, but conceded he should have gotten himself more involved in the issue. Admitting he had been guilty of doing too little, he said he had been aware of what he saw as the problems of cousin marriage and the oppression of women within sectors of the Muslim community in Britain, but "as a true Guardian reader, and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that too hard. I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat if I may put it like that." However, in hindsight, he did say that "I think that I should have burrowed into [the allegations]" "




"Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale where similar cases were prosecuted, observed that "a very small minority of people in the Asian community have a very unhealthy view of women. ... It's a complex jigsaw, and ethnicity is just one of the pieces. Class is a major factor, night-time economy is a factor, in terms of this type of on-street grooming, not sexual abuse per se."[33] Danczuk added that there was an "unhealthy brand of politics 'imported' from Pakistan" which was "partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham". He said that "There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community which have to change."


"Theresa May described the failures of police and council agencies to deal with child sex abuse as a complete dereliction of duty. She said that "institutionalised political correctness" had contributed to the authorities turning a blind eye to the abuse: "I am clear that cultural concerns – both the fear of being seen as racist, and the frankly disdainful attitude to some of our most vulnerable children "



Tilly was right. YOu were wrong.

Ok, you got me. I did not know that Pakistan was in Syria....



Dude.

Thousands of girls raped and you are playing word games.

The Rapists were muslims.

"Thousands" huh? Two now qualifies as "thousands", does it?

Hype much?

And btw ------ in what way is rape a religious act?



There was a reference to the problem of rape rings in the UK, where thousands of young girls have been raped by Muslim Immigrants.

It is relevant in that it is also a result of Third World Immigration.

"Religious act"? I don't know or care what you are trying to do there. Some libs have been trying to deny the obvious truth that these specific crimes, both in Cologne and the UK are being committed by Muslims so I was responding to that pathetic defense.

If you are unfamiliar with the Rape Ring Scandals in the UK, I strongly urge you to read up on them. They are incredible real word examples of the human cost when Political Correctness prevents serious discussion of policy and libs get to do what they want.

these guys in Europe are awfully busy! When I first started browsing over here, there there were hundreds of sexual assaults and one rape in Germany. Now, there are thousands of rapes in Britain! by tomorrow, there will have been millions of rapes in Detroit!

No kidding, guys, do you ever listen to yourselves? Trump tells us that the Mexican illegal immigrants are rapists. The Muslims are rapists. the Mexicans are drug dealers. The Muslims are terrorists. Even a kid who builds a clock is a terrorist trainee. Black people are thugs and welfare queens. Democrats are going to take your guns. Islamics are going to legalize Shari law. The left is making war on Christmas...and Christianity. So are the atheists. Transgenders are going to accost you in the rest room. The government is going to poison your children with vaccines and fluoridation. The government is going to set up death panels at insurance companies. Mosques are actually terrorist training bases. Even Starbucks is taking away your snowflake cups. The BLM is going to drive ranchers into bankruptcy and poverty. I saw a thread last year that went on for 3 months about the loss our our liberty to use incandescent light bulbs. Gays have an agenda to fundamentally change all of your traditional values. Is there ANYTHING that you guys are not afraid of, and outraged about?





No smoke without fire........................................
 
"Religious act"? I don't know or care what you are trying to do there. Some libs have been trying to deny the obvious truth that these specific crimes, both in Cologne and the UK are being committed by Muslims so I was responding to that pathetic defense.

You took pains to identify the (ass-umed) religion of said rapists.

Do you always do that? Is every rapist, murderer, assaulter, thief, embezzler, drunk driver, arsonist and libeler identified according to -- not just what religion they follow but what religion we ass-ume they follow?

Pop quiz: what's Bernie Madoff's religion?




Didn't think so. Your agenda is showing.


If you are unfamiliar with the Rape Ring Scandals in the UK, I strongly urge you to read up on them. They are incredible real word examples of the human cost when Political Correctness prevents serious discussion of policy and libs get to do what they want

It ain't the topic here. See the last line above.
 
Pogo, be aware. You have entered a logic free zone. Trump reigns here, so throw all logic out the window, and prepared to be terrified of everything, everywhere. Grab your wife and daughter and lock them up, because if the Mexicans don't rape them, the Muslims will....

And no doubt, they'll do it on TV in Jersey City. And Rump will be the only one to see the broadcast. :eusa_shifty:
 
So you have not taken in the reports posted showing that the atrocity was not just centred on one small town but was endemic all over the country. With an average of 1,000 in each town being raped by Pakistani muslims. This makes the numbers on the high side and of great concern to the people of the UK.

Nope, sure didn't. The original story said a lot of molestations were reported, among which was one rape. In a couple of days that one became two. Of course for a message board wag manufacturing his own story that means "thousands".


You ask how rape is a religious act, then look no further than the trial transcripts were it is shown the muslim child rapists were acting on their religious teachings. Look them up in the koran and hadiths and that way you will see that it is not a made up story.

Rape is not a religious act in any religion. Period. I called out his fallacy, and it remains that way.
 
So you have not taken in the reports posted showing that the atrocity was not just centred on one small town but was endemic all over the country. With an average of 1,000 in each town being raped by Pakistani muslims. This makes the numbers on the high side and of great concern to the people of the UK.

Nope, sure didn't. The original story said a lot of molestations were reported, among which was one rape. In a couple of days that one became two. Of course for a message board wag manufacturing his own story that means "thousands".


You ask how rape is a religious act, then look no further than the trial transcripts were it is shown the muslim child rapists were acting on their religious teachings. Look them up in the koran and hadiths and that way you will see that it is not a made up story.

Rape is not a religious act in any religion. Period. I called out his fallacy, and it remains that way.





Then you are living in cloud cuckoo land and have not studied the koran and hadiths. They spell out exactly what is a expected of every muslims ( all men of course ) and how they should emulate the perfect muslim.
 

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