Women are yapping about equal pay again?

[BULLDOG]

I have so had it with the Democrats and the ridiculous issues they champion.

In my entire career I have never seen a women paid less.

In my entire career, I have never seen a women not get preferential treatment based solely on their sex.

In fact, as far as pay, I have only seen women get the same or better pay than men.

WTF did I miss in my 45 years in the workplace?

Unusual, but your experience doesn't matter that much. Plenty of women have seen those things.

True anecdotal evidence means nothing

However it is long since a proven fact that the gender pay gap is spin and mythology.

There is an income gap between the average man and the average woman but it is the result of individual personal choices.

There is no job where men get paid more simply for being a man.

There are however a few occupations where women get paid more than men who they do the exact same work side by side with. Because they are female.

Do you have a credible link to that proof, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

 

[Soupnazi630]

I have so had it with the Democrats and the ridiculous issues they champion.

In my entire career I have never seen a women paid less.

In my entire career, I have never seen a women not get preferential treatment based solely on their sex.

In fact, as far as pay, I have only seen women get the same or better pay than men.

WTF did I miss in my 45 years in the workplace?

Unusual, but your experience doesn't matter that much. Plenty of women have seen those things.

True anecdotal evidence means nothing

However it is long since a proven fact that the gender pay gap is spin and mythology.

There is an income gap between the average man and the average woman but it is the result of individual personal choices.

There is no job where men get paid more simply for being a man.

There are however a few occupations where women get paid more than men who they do the exact same work side by side with. Because they are female.

Do you have a credible link to that proof, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Fascinating anecdotes, boys.

Men make more because they generally work longer hours, don’t stay home as often with kids and do harder jobs such as on oil rigs. For the SAME jobs, they make the same as women or a little less.

 

[BULLDOG]

Physical strength makes me think of construction jobs. Which require no college investment at all. Yet on average, construction workers make much more than daycare providers. Why is that? I think it has to do with the fact that construction workers are generally men and daycare providers are typically women.

or it could be construction work is harder and women cant do the job and dont want too

"Harder?" Requires more strength, yes. Try taking care of children ages 6 mos. through 4 years for a day. Putting on a roof is not "harder," it is different. Is it more important to put on a roof than to keep your child safe and happy for the day while you work?

sorry but I've taken care of children and I would rather do that all day than do construction work

women need top stop their bitching or get out there and provide the hard things men have been providing for centuries

You and OP are both using the tired old line that because men are stronger they should make more, be entitled to more opportunities (like in the military), etc. Horseshit

The OP never said such a thing. Don't be a liar.

I never said men should be paid more. I am just tired of women bitching when there is no reason for them to bitch.

It's 70 years since this was an issue.
My whole life women were pushed to the front of the line and now we see women paid more than men for the same jobs out of college. But still the Trump like victimization.

Is there anyone on the entire planet that is not a victim? Good grief.

Well try again. If that's not what you are whining about, then what exactly are you whining about?

 

[BULLDOG]

Unusual, but your experience doesn't matter that much. Plenty of women have seen those things.

True anecdotal evidence means nothing

However it is long since a proven fact that the gender pay gap is spin and mythology.

There is an income gap between the average man and the average woman but it is the result of individual personal choices.

There is no job where men get paid more simply for being a man.

There are however a few occupations where women get paid more than men who they do the exact same work side by side with. Because they are female.

Do you have a credible link to that proof, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

 

[Soupnazi630]

True anecdotal evidence means nothing

However it is long since a proven fact that the gender pay gap is spin and mythology.

There is an income gap between the average man and the average woman but it is the result of individual personal choices.

There is no job where men get paid more simply for being a man.

There are however a few occupations where women get paid more than men who they do the exact same work side by side with. Because they are female.

Do you have a credible link to that proof, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

 

[whoisit]

I wonder if the real issue is "pink collar jobs" like social work and teaching that are predominantly women and despite the required 5 years of college and additional credentialing, licensing, etc., they get paid far less than men in other predominantly "male" occupations.

I dunno. Just a thought.

It's been illegal to pay women less for the same work for ages.

If you are an old lady like me and your user name implies then you will remember this commercial.

And maybe even realize we are no better off today than we were 100 years ago, worse as a matter of fact.

Fake fems took away our freedom of choice of being a mother and wife or being a breadwinner. A woman who wants to be a homemaker no longer has a husband who can provide for his family. So both have to work to survive.
Men don't hang around anymore like they use to either. Single mothers pay a high price for this and their kids pay even higher. Not only is the father gone if they even know who he is, but the mother is absent from the home at work.

I think us women got the short end of the cancer stick on this womens rights BS.

 

[BULLDOG]

Do you have a credible link to that proof, or did you just pull it out of your ass?

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is long since proven by the labor department and all empirical evidence.

The fact is this men tend to make different choices than women which results I. More income


For example men take jobs which pay more but require greater sacrifice such as over the road truck drivers who spend days weeks even months away from home. They get laid great but the vast majority are men

Men work more hours than women especially overtime hours. This is why it is an income gap not a lay gap. Any two or more employees might we'll make the same pay but the ones working over time will have fatter paychecks , or income , than those who work 40 hours or less.

The list goes on but it is LONG since proven the pay gap is a myth and spin. The happy is based on individual choices.

It is feminist crap which does not exist.

It is easy to prove wrong but cannot be. If it is false find any job or occupation where equally qualified men and women do the exact same thing side by side but get paid different

You cannot find any such in they DO NOT exist.

Deal with it

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

 

[BULLDOG]

So that would be no credible link then-----right?

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

I stated fact now present the one job or occupation which proves it wrong

You cannot and will not because what I stayed is irrefutable proven fact in your face

 

[BULLDOG]

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

I stated fact now present the one job or occupation which proves it wrong

You cannot and will not because what I stayed is irrefutable proven fact in your face

Don't work that way dumb ass. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. You couldn't. Your statement is bullshit.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

I stated fact now present the one job or occupation which proves it wrong

You cannot and will not because what I stayed is irrefutable proven fact in your face

Don't work that way dumb ass. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. You couldn't. Your statement is bullshit.

My statement is factual and irrefutable.

You clearly live in an echo chamber and have been out of touch for years

The way it works is I proved you to be a fool who hot owned .
.
Facts are facts and those are your face kid.

 

[BULLDOG]

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

I stated fact now present the one job or occupation which proves it wrong

You cannot and will not because what I stayed is irrefutable proven fact in your face

Don't work that way dumb ass. You make a statement, it's up to you to back it up. You couldn't. Your statement is bullshit.

My statement is factual and irrefutable.

You clearly live in an echo chamber and have been out of touch for years

The way it works is I proved you to be a fool who hot owned .
.
Facts are facts and those are your face kid.

You proved nothing dumb ass.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I have so had it with the Democrats and the ridiculous issues they champion.

In my entire career I have never seen a women paid less.

In my entire career, I have never seen a women not get preferential treatment based solely on their sex.

In fact, as far as pay, I have only seen women get the same or better pay than men.

WTF did I miss in my 45 years in the workplace?

I think you missed getting laid.

 

[2aguy]

I wonder if the real issue is "pink collar jobs" like social work and teaching that are predominantly women and despite the required 5 years of college and additional credentialing, licensing, etc., they get paid far less than men in other predominantly "male" occupations.

I dunno. Just a thought.

It's been illegal to pay women less for the same work for ages.

Actual research shows that the reason women as a group make less is the choice of jobs, the amount of time they take off compared to men......that's it......

 

[petro]

That is the first thing I always think of, how is this pay stat computed?

My oldest daughter makes very good money but has continually turned down more as she wants no part of the extra hours and travel as she is a young mom. How is that factored in? Is that being paid less?

There are just sooooooo many differences between men and women that effect when women work and why as compared to men.

I agree the caregiver issue is probably the primary one. I don't know what other types of "differences" you are talking about.

Physical strength? Come on, you can't not know about this.

It makes a big difference in the workplace for many jobs.

Also, how about interests? Women and men do not equally gravitate toward the same jobs.

Physical strength makes me think of construction jobs. Which require no college investment at all. Yet on average, construction workers make much more than daycare providers. Why is that? I think it has to do with the fact that construction workers are generally men and daycare providers are typically women.

I work construction. Physically demanding and dangerous. Better have a stomach for heights and crappy weather. Most men can't cut it and I see very few women except the burly gals.

I respect that. It is for strong, outdoor types. So jobs that are physically demanding should pay more, you say. I know a lot of men who do that type of work. I certainly appreciate those skills. I just don't understand, still, why you think it is worth almost twice as much as a daycare provider that you trust with your child all day.

My ex used to do private daycare in our house. Was licensed by state for up to 14 kids. She pulled in as much as I did and we took advantage of huge tax breaks with a home business. A center won't pay as much but sure charges parents more.

 

[22lcidw]

Us department of labor

Feel free to peruse.

Find that job yet?

No?

You lose, facts are facts

Sorry buddy. The department of labor is not a link. You understand what links are, don't you?

Yes and it is not needed these are ok facts deal with it and do your own research sweetheart then op is correct.

Got it. You can't back up your claims. I'm not really surprised.

Massive evidence

Not a claim and you cannot refute it or leave it wrong.
It is fact grow up be an adult and deal with it

WOW!! I'm impressed. You can't present any of that MASSIVE EVIDENCE? I'm just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry buddy, but I don't believe crazy right wingers any further than I could throw you. Present credible evidence or admit you just pulled it all out of your ass.

East Asia is telling us what went wrong. They be making the products...Oh yes in deedee!

 

[danielpalos]

whenever shall women say what they mean and mean what they say?

 

[danielpalos]

dear women,

if you don't enjoy and really love "breaking in the new guy, even if only for a little while", it may not work out.