Why Trump SHOULD have asked Ukraine for help investigating Biden

[busybee01]

Trump is the head of the Executive which is charged with enforcing the Laws---including the criminal laws...and sometimes, when some evidence of law-breaking is, or could be, in the hands of a foreign government, it takes more than an FBI Agent flying over for a look. Sometimes it takes a request for help from one government head to another.

That is the case with Trump and Ukraine and Biden.

Now, while Uncle Joe Biden has the Pravda-like Media shilling for him, using The Big Lie from Nazi Germany days, he is in fact on a video tape bragging about how he interfered in the private affairs of Ukraine and demanded and got a quid pro quo---the firing of Ukraine's equivalent of the Attorney General in exchange for U. S. Taxpayer Money.

He is on Tape. If you Bolshevik Numbskulls haven't seen, it is because you are watching one of the Pravda-like Shills in the Media. As they work for the Democrat/Socialists they would like to hide the tape.

Their other approaches, variations of The Big Lie are:

IT Has Been Debunked--- a Big Lie very often used by the New York Media

Any wrongdoing by Democrats more than 3 months old is always deemed DEBUNKED if not reported on night and day---and if it negatively affects Democrats---it is NEVER reported on!

Then there is:

Everybody wanted the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired, because he was corrupt, and he wasn't doing anything about investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt company.

This is repeatedly reported by the FAKE NEWS, but it is never proven.

However, John Solomon documents just the opposite in the below article:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts | John Solomon Reports

Solomon says:

"Here are the facts, with links to public evidence {in the article}, so you can decide for yourself.

Fact: Joe Biden admitted to forcing Shokin’s firing in March 2016.

Fact: Shokin’s prosecutors were actively investigating Burisma when he was fired.

Fact: Burisma’s lawyers in 2016 were pressing U.S. and Ukrainian authorities to end the corruption investigations.

Fact: There is substantial evidence Joe Biden and his office knew about the Burisma probe and his son’s role as a board member.

Fact: Federal Ethics rules requires government officials to avoid taking policy actions affecting close relatives.

Fact: Multiple State Department officials testified the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

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Trump was right to ask for help in further investigating the above possibly criminal conduct by then VP Joe Biden! It was his Job!

Truth: Joe Biden is cooked--assuming Alzheimer's doesn't get him first!

There is a very long thread about this topic already.

Here’s the the problem Mr. Op. Coming from a conspirator creator John Solomon is not much to support your claim.

Let me repeat what I’ve posted and so are other members here that do not support Trump corruption and try to rape our democracy by asking a foreign leader to dig dirt against his political enemies.

Since when that is acceptable?

1. Biden fired Shokin a well known corrupted prosecutor general in Ukraine. There was a Ukrainian rally against Shokin. Firing of Shokin was supported by IMF, Republicans and western allies.

2. Shokin never investigate Burisma or even actively when Hunter joined Burisma. Owner of Burisma was heavily involved in money laundering before Hunter joined Burisma.

3. Biden bragged firing Shokin. Where is the corruption committed?

So your claimed that Bidens committed any corruption is totally false. Except from a conspiracy creator John Solomon.

Talking about corruption? Biden tax returns are available. Trump hide his tax returns, he paid $25million for his fake Trump university and recently ordered to pay $2 millions for his fraudulent Trump foundation.
Any questions?

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No proof of any of your allegations--that is No. 1 & 2. Just YOUR allegations. Solomon backed his up. You don't.

No. 3. He interfered in the internal affairs of another country. You assume he had a good reason, but nothing has been supplied other than your uncorroborated allegations. There must be more, and better---such as Solomon has supplied, and he gives reasons why Biden's were corrupt.

You do get to believe what you want. So do I. Solomon is far more believable than you, an obvious dumb-ass---because he backs his allegations up. You are not.

The Pussy Hat World is only for those with Trump Derangement Syndrome. You can live in it, but you look very foolish...and you really look foolish when you expect others to abandon Reality just because your biases have led you to do so.

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Solomon has no credibility. He is not backed up by anything. Solomon is not believable.

 

[busybee01]

Here is a French documentary (posted by RT) about the Bidens’s crimes in Ukraine with all documents enclosed. Rudy is welcome to use them against the Bidens.
UkraineGate: MSM believed Biden’s narrative, but documentary reveals ousted prosecutor had 6 cases against Burisma

Peddling a fake documentary now.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Trump is the head of the Executive which is charged with enforcing the Laws---including the criminal laws...and sometimes, when some evidence of law-breaking is, or could be, in the hands of a foreign government, it takes more than an FBI Agent flying over for a look. Sometimes it takes a request for help from one government head to another.

That is the case with Trump and Ukraine and Biden.

Now, while Uncle Joe Biden has the Pravda-like Media shilling for him, using The Big Lie from Nazi Germany days, he is in fact on a video tape bragging about how he interfered in the private affairs of Ukraine and demanded and got a quid pro quo---the firing of Ukraine's equivalent of the Attorney General in exchange for U. S. Taxpayer Money.

He is on Tape. If you Bolshevik Numbskulls haven't seen, it is because you are watching one of the Pravda-like Shills in the Media. As they work for the Democrat/Socialists they would like to hide the tape.

Their other approaches, variations of The Big Lie are:

IT Has Been Debunked--- a Big Lie very often used by the New York Media

Any wrongdoing by Democrats more than 3 months old is always deemed DEBUNKED if not reported on night and day---and if it negatively affects Democrats---it is NEVER reported on!

Then there is:

Everybody wanted the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired, because he was corrupt, and he wasn't doing anything about investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt company.

This is repeatedly reported by the FAKE NEWS, but it is never proven.

However, John Solomon documents just the opposite in the below article:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts | John Solomon Reports

Solomon says:

"Here are the facts, with links to public evidence {in the article}, so you can decide for yourself.

Fact: Joe Biden admitted to forcing Shokin’s firing in March 2016.

Fact: Shokin’s prosecutors were actively investigating Burisma when he was fired.

Fact: Burisma’s lawyers in 2016 were pressing U.S. and Ukrainian authorities to end the corruption investigations.

Fact: There is substantial evidence Joe Biden and his office knew about the Burisma probe and his son’s role as a board member.

Fact: Federal Ethics rules requires government officials to avoid taking policy actions affecting close relatives.

Fact: Multiple State Department officials testified the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

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Trump was right to ask for help in further investigating the above possibly criminal conduct by then VP Joe Biden! It was his Job!

Truth: Joe Biden is cooked--assuming Alzheimer's doesn't get him first!

skinny: long before Trump was elected, the USA aid/foreign policy in Ukraine, was based on pursuing anti-corruption initiatives. Therefore it is illogical to impeach a U.S. President for applying anti-corruption elements onto Ukraine.

 

[BlindBoo]

No. 3. He interfered in the internal affairs of another country.

That's fucking awesome! Good God, interfering in another countries internal affairs is not impeachable. We do that shit all the time. What we don't do is to strong arm another country( by using the bipartisan foreign aid Congress approved and allocated as a bribe) into interfering in our internal affairs. That's what Trumpybear tried to do. It's why he is impeached, and it's why the Trumpublicans will be shellacked in the fall.

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You Moron.

It was Biden being discussed in that comment...and YES to use your words BIDEN did:

"...strong arm another country( by using the bipartisan foreign aid Congress approved and allocated as a bribe"

And BIDEN Admitted it! On Tape.

Nice of you to use an incomplete quote. "What we don't do is to strong arm another country( by using the bipartisan foreign aid Congress approved and allocated as a bribe) into interfering in our internal affairs."

Who in our country did Biden demand Ukraine investigate. Any demands to announce investigations into the RNC?

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

Trump is the head of the Executive which is charged with enforcing the Laws---including the criminal laws...and sometimes, when some evidence of law-breaking is, or could be, in the hands of a foreign government, it takes more than an FBI Agent flying over for a look. Sometimes it takes a request for help from one government head to another.

That is the case with Trump and Ukraine and Biden.

Now, while Uncle Joe Biden has the Pravda-like Media shilling for him, using The Big Lie from Nazi Germany days, he is in fact on a video tape bragging about how he interfered in the private affairs of Ukraine and demanded and got a quid pro quo---the firing of Ukraine's equivalent of the Attorney General in exchange for U. S. Taxpayer Money.

He is on Tape. If you Bolshevik Numbskulls haven't seen, it is because you are watching one of the Pravda-like Shills in the Media. As they work for the Democrat/Socialists they would like to hide the tape.

Their other approaches, variations of The Big Lie are:

IT Has Been Debunked--- a Big Lie very often used by the New York Media

Any wrongdoing by Democrats more than 3 months old is always deemed DEBUNKED if not reported on night and day---and if it negatively affects Democrats---it is NEVER reported on!

Then there is:

Everybody wanted the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired, because he was corrupt, and he wasn't doing anything about investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt company.

This is repeatedly reported by the FAKE NEWS, but it is never proven.

However, John Solomon documents just the opposite in the below article:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts | John Solomon Reports

Solomon says:

"Here are the facts, with links to public evidence {in the article}, so you can decide for yourself.

Fact: Joe Biden admitted to forcing Shokin’s firing in March 2016.

Fact: Shokin’s prosecutors were actively investigating Burisma when he was fired.

Fact: Burisma’s lawyers in 2016 were pressing U.S. and Ukrainian authorities to end the corruption investigations.

Fact: There is substantial evidence Joe Biden and his office knew about the Burisma probe and his son’s role as a board member.

Fact: Federal Ethics rules requires government officials to avoid taking policy actions affecting close relatives.

Fact: Multiple State Department officials testified the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

________

Trump was right to ask for help in further investigating the above possibly criminal conduct by then VP Joe Biden! It was his Job!

Truth: Joe Biden is cooked--assuming Alzheimer's doesn't get him first!

OH sure this sounds great, theoretically, but we all know in real time they would concoct a lie to connect Trump to whoever gets publicly credited for the actual deed of exposing Biden.

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump is the head of the Executive which is charged with enforcing the Laws---including the criminal laws...and sometimes, when some evidence of law-breaking is, or could be, in the hands of a foreign government, it takes more than an FBI Agent flying over for a look. Sometimes it takes a request for help from one government head to another.

That is the case with Trump and Ukraine and Biden.

Now, while Uncle Joe Biden has the Pravda-like Media shilling for him, using The Big Lie from Nazi Germany days, he is in fact on a video tape bragging about how he interfered in the private affairs of Ukraine and demanded and got a quid pro quo---the firing of Ukraine's equivalent of the Attorney General in exchange for U. S. Taxpayer Money.

He is on Tape. If you Bolshevik Numbskulls haven't seen, it is because you are watching one of the Pravda-like Shills in the Media. As they work for the Democrat/Socialists they would like to hide the tape.

Their other approaches, variations of The Big Lie are:

IT Has Been Debunked--- a Big Lie very often used by the New York Media

Any wrongdoing by Democrats more than 3 months old is always deemed DEBUNKED if not reported on night and day---and if it negatively affects Democrats---it is NEVER reported on!

Then there is:

Everybody wanted the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired, because he was corrupt, and he wasn't doing anything about investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt company.

This is repeatedly reported by the FAKE NEWS, but it is never proven.

However, John Solomon documents just the opposite in the below article:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts | John Solomon Reports

Solomon says:

"Here are the facts, with links to public evidence {in the article}, so you can decide for yourself.

Fact: Joe Biden admitted to forcing Shokin’s firing in March 2016.

Fact: Shokin’s prosecutors were actively investigating Burisma when he was fired.

Fact: Burisma’s lawyers in 2016 were pressing U.S. and Ukrainian authorities to end the corruption investigations.

Fact: There is substantial evidence Joe Biden and his office knew about the Burisma probe and his son’s role as a board member.

Fact: Federal Ethics rules requires government officials to avoid taking policy actions affecting close relatives.

Fact: Multiple State Department officials testified the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

________

Trump was right to ask for help in further investigating the above possibly criminal conduct by then VP Joe Biden! It was his Job!

Truth: Joe Biden is cooked--assuming Alzheimer's doesn't get him first!

OH sure this sounds great, theoretically, but we all know in real time they would concoct a lie to connect Trump to whoever gets publicly credited for the actual deed of exposing Biden.

The corruption at Burisma the Ukraine was suppose to have been investigating occurred before 2013. Years before Hunter was offered a job. There was no investigation into his hiring either. It a flimsy connection that can only hold up in the Kangaroo Court of Public Opinion on Faux News. But they don't call ol'Trumpybear Captain Kangaroo for nothing.

 

[Norman]

Trump is the head of the Executive which is charged with enforcing the Laws---including the criminal laws...and sometimes, when some evidence of law-breaking is, or could be, in the hands of a foreign government, it takes more than an FBI Agent flying over for a look. Sometimes it takes a request for help from one government head to another.

That is the case with Trump and Ukraine and Biden.

Now, while Uncle Joe Biden has the Pravda-like Media shilling for him, using The Big Lie from Nazi Germany days, he is in fact on a video tape bragging about how he interfered in the private affairs of Ukraine and demanded and got a quid pro quo---the firing of Ukraine's equivalent of the Attorney General in exchange for U. S. Taxpayer Money.

He is on Tape. If you Bolshevik Numbskulls haven't seen, it is because you are watching one of the Pravda-like Shills in the Media. As they work for the Democrat/Socialists they would like to hide the tape.

Their other approaches, variations of The Big Lie are:

IT Has Been Debunked--- a Big Lie very often used by the New York Media

Any wrongdoing by Democrats more than 3 months old is always deemed DEBUNKED if not reported on night and day---and if it negatively affects Democrats---it is NEVER reported on!

Then there is:

Everybody wanted the Ukrainian Prosecutor fired, because he was corrupt, and he wasn't doing anything about investigating Hunter Biden's corrupt company.

This is repeatedly reported by the FAKE NEWS, but it is never proven.

However, John Solomon documents just the opposite in the below article:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts | John Solomon Reports

Solomon says:

"Here are the facts, with links to public evidence {in the article}, so you can decide for yourself.

Fact: Joe Biden admitted to forcing Shokin’s firing in March 2016.

Fact: Shokin’s prosecutors were actively investigating Burisma when he was fired.

Fact: Burisma’s lawyers in 2016 were pressing U.S. and Ukrainian authorities to end the corruption investigations.

Fact: There is substantial evidence Joe Biden and his office knew about the Burisma probe and his son’s role as a board member.

Fact: Federal Ethics rules requires government officials to avoid taking policy actions affecting close relatives.

Fact: Multiple State Department officials testified the Bidens’ dealings in Ukraine created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

________

Trump was right to ask for help in further investigating the above possibly criminal conduct by then VP Joe Biden! It was his Job!

Truth: Joe Biden is cooked--assuming Alzheimer's doesn't get him first!

Democrats have been investigating Trump non-stop since he took office, but blame Trump for wanting to investigate them?

Trump was ELECTED to do just that.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

There was no investigation into his hiring either.

Exactly. And why? Obama Admin disguised corrupt plans and actions.

Moreover those corrupt Dems (Biden/Obama) got a Prosecutor fired ---after that Prosecutor approached the Obama Admin in 2015 to ask what the f*ck is Hunter Biden doing in Ukraine at Burisma.

The corruption at Burisma the Ukraine was suppose to have been investigating occurred before 2013. .

Nope. There was never any specific, exclusive case of corruption, as according to our 20yr old foreign policy in Ukraine. It is about stomping all, corruption, if Ukraine is to recv aid from the USA

For many years now you usually find Ukraine ranked as high as 3rd-4th most corrupt nation, on Earth, so please save yourself the embarrassment of using that argument.

Trump was doing his job, and the House Dems were not having it/risking the Bidens get exposed.