Why The Left Loves Socialism

[Rustic]

Yes, that is what social-ism means; groups rights over individual rights.

You are merely, clueless and Causeless.

No, I'm sorry, that's NOT what Socialism is. Again, you prove your ignorance for everyone to see.

Yes, that is, social-ism.

That is a belief of liberalism

the right wing are just a bunch of communists and don't know it; some on the left are trying to be poets, and know it.

i propose new definitions; liberal socialism and national socialism.

Both being pussy whipped

 

[danielpalos]

The Left love socialism because it fills their religious void and inspires and inflames their social movements.

we don't have a problem being social, instead of capital.

 

[Rustic]

The Left love socialism because they love to practice indiscriminate indiscriminateness (i.e. righteous indignation of a religious fanatic) to justify their selective tolerance and selective tolerance is needed to meet the morally relativistic program of socialism.

only national socialists do that, not liberal socialists.

Any type of socialism means no real freedom…

 

[danielpalos]

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future.

the logically challenged left also believes in non sequiturs, I believe a better future means less of what you want

Our Space Race not good enough for you; why not pay SpaceX a tip, to ensure promptness.

 

[danielpalos]

The Left love socialism because they love every other culture but their own.

the militia of the United States is a form of national socialism. only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[danielpalos]

The Left love socialism because socialism appeals to their emotions.

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future; the right only loves national socialism for the private profit motive.

Again, you display your profound ignorance by making a totally irrational and illogical argument. I've never met another human being who didn't believe in a better future. What you are attempting to do here is humiliate and shame people into accepting your ideas.

In the OP, which I encourage newcomers in the thread to read, it is explained why some people embrace Socialism. It because you lack confidence in your ability to compete with others. This is evident in the nature of your replies. You want to shame people who achieve success. You want them to feel bad for being successful. In the movie I spoke of in the OP, the father shamed his daughter for wanting to raise lambs on her own. He told her that she must not love her family. He sought to extinguish her desire for self-accomplishment by making her feel ashamed of that. The reason was his own insecurities and lack of confidence in his ability to compete.

dears, socialism beat capitalism to the Moon and back, and capitalism is still, trying to compete.

 

[Rustic]

The Left love socialism because socialism appeals to their emotions.

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future; the right only loves national socialism for the private profit motive.

Again, you display your profound ignorance by making a totally irrational and illogical argument. I've never met another human being who didn't believe in a better future. What you are attempting to do here is humiliate and shame people into accepting your ideas.

In the OP, which I encourage newcomers in the thread to read, it is explained why some people embrace Socialism. It because you lack confidence in your ability to compete with others. This is evident in the nature of your replies. You want to shame people who achieve success. You want them to feel bad for being successful. In the movie I spoke of in the OP, the father shamed his daughter for wanting to raise lambs on her own. He told her that she must not love her family. He sought to extinguish her desire for self-accomplishment by making her feel ashamed of that. The reason was his own insecurities and lack of confidence in his ability to compete.

dears, socialism beat capitalism to the Moon and back, and capitalism is still, trying to compete.

I guess it could be said socialism is for people that can't make it in the real world…

 

[NCC1701]

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future.

the logically challenged left also believes in non sequiturs, I believe a better future means less of what you want

Our Space Race not good enough for you; why not pay SpaceX a tip, to ensure promptness.

the space race? lol, no it actually isn't good enough

 

[regent]

You mean when the Government said what you could eat and what you needed to sell to the Government? My family (both sides) were involved in Agriculture during those times.

One Grandfather owned a Diary. He could use all the milk produced as long as it was separated (separate the milk from the cream). The Cream was sold to the government after it was made into Cheeze or was processed for canning. The Bulls (not the breeders) were castrated to steers. He was allowed the slaughter of ONE of those per year.

My other Grandfather was a Rancher. He was allowed the same number (one) cow slaughtered per year. He also raised Sheep like most ranchers of the time but the Government wasn't interested in Lamb.

Sure does sound like Socialism bordering on Communism to me.

might sound like it to you, but Stalin would have simply owned your farms had you been in Russia, government meddling in markets is not the same as all out communism.

Under Stalin, it was tried where each farmer got X number of acres that was uncontrolled. Sounded good except those free acres out produced the entire hundreds of acres. It was stopped. It was tried again after Stalin died. Didn't work out any better but it stayed until the breakup where the farms reverted back to the farmers. They even tried to get the farmers away from the horse drawn rigs. The Government bought them brand new Tractors with all the fun toys. What did they use the Tractor for? They would drive it into town for supplies and Vodka. Meanwhile, they still used the horse drawn implements to farm.

In order to make communism last longer than a few months, it has to be forced and that is exactly what Lenin and Stalin did. In the US, the term Robber Barons was where the Corporations controlled the Governments both State and Federal. The difference is, it was much easier for the US to move away from it than it was for the USSR.

and you just made my point, at no point were we like the USSR and close to communism since we always had some freedom, all your hand wavy bullshit about corporations aside

No but from time to time, the US has been the other side of that bad penny.

has the gov't meddled and tried to control to some degree? sure

has the government ever just taken over agriculture production? no way, we have always had private ownership and market pricing, even if gov't meddled with that pricing

The government set up committees that set agriculture pr tried to get the farmers to take over agricultural production and some of the pricing.

 

[ding]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I liked being in a socialist organization, the military...

Except the military is not a socialist organization.

Sorry... it's just NOT.

Of course it is - it is centrally controlled organization paid for in entirety by compulsive taxation. How do you get an economic arrangement MORE socialist than that???

And before you start talking about how Constitution provides for it (you rightwingers always do) - DON'T. Socialism and Capitalism is not defined by constitutionality, it is defined by economic structure.

As I said before, I can see where people get this idea. Read that again so you understand me... I can see where you get that idea. Is that computing in your brain? That I actually see and realize how you can think this way and I understand? I think it's important that you realize that before reading further.

Here is why it's NOT socialism: The military in our country is an establishment under an enumerated power of congress. We (self-governing people) gave congress permission to do this as a responsibility of our federal government. So this is not something government did of it's own volition, it is something we agreed to allow our government to do as a necessary responsibility of government. The military system itself is not Socialist because it doesn't serve it's own social needs and purpose, it serves the needs of the country. The military doesn't do what it does for the sake of itself.

Now, one can make the argument that many facets of the military and how it functions are similar to Socialism or are "socialistic" in nature, but that does not mean they are "Socialist" unless you are perverting the definition of Socialism or misunderstanding the relationship between the people and the government they established.

Ok you CLEARLY do not understand what socialism is. It is defined STRICTLY in the economic dimension.

so·cial·ism - a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Now tell me, what in your description of military contradicts that definition? It is certainly not the way American community as a whole has indirect input on it.

Nothing about our military is capitalistic, it is fundamentally not driven by the private chase of the profit, but by central command of the government.

I clearly understand that the US has both Fasicm and Socialism since it was created. And we have been moving back and forth from both of them. Same goes for the Russians, the Chinese and every other government on earth. Move too far to the fringes and you implode as a government.

You see it as black and white. It's far from that. It's many shades of grey.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

Please step away from Rush and Hannity. They are just entertainers. You need to stop using their sound bites because that's all they are.

 

[ding]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

Please step away from Rush and Hannity. They are just entertainers. You need to stop using their sound bites because that's all they are.

Never watched them. Maybe they are copying my stuff. I'll get my lawyer to check into that.

 

[danielpalos]

The Left love socialism because socialism appeals to their emotions.

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future; the right only loves national socialism for the private profit motive.

Again, you display your profound ignorance by making a totally irrational and illogical argument. I've never met another human being who didn't believe in a better future. What you are attempting to do here is humiliate and shame people into accepting your ideas.

In the OP, which I encourage newcomers in the thread to read, it is explained why some people embrace Socialism. It because you lack confidence in your ability to compete with others. This is evident in the nature of your replies. You want to shame people who achieve success. You want them to feel bad for being successful. In the movie I spoke of in the OP, the father shamed his daughter for wanting to raise lambs on her own. He told her that she must not love her family. He sought to extinguish her desire for self-accomplishment by making her feel ashamed of that. The reason was his own insecurities and lack of confidence in his ability to compete.

dears, socialism beat capitalism to the Moon and back, and capitalism is still, trying to compete.

I guess it could be said socialism is for people that can't make it in the real world…

dear, capitalism died in 1929 and socialism has been bailing it out, ever since.

Hoover, and his Hoovervilles, only deserved one term.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

Please step away from Rush and Hannity. They are just entertainers. You need to stop using their sound bites because that's all they are.

Never watched them. Maybe they are copying my stuff. I'll get my lawyer to check into that.

The problem here is, you either underestimate me or you are overestimating yourself. You got bagged, get over it.

 

[danielpalos]

the left loves liberal socialism, because we believe in a better future.

the logically challenged left also believes in non sequiturs, I believe a better future means less of what you want

Our Space Race not good enough for you; why not pay SpaceX a tip, to ensure promptness.

the space race? lol, no it actually isn't good enough

ingrate. you should be more grateful for all of the spin off technologies we got out of it.

 

[ding]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

Please step away from Rush and Hannity. They are just entertainers. You need to stop using their sound bites because that's all they are.

Never watched them. Maybe they are copying my stuff. I'll get my lawyer to check into that.

The problem here is, you either underestimate me or you are overestimating yourself. You got bagged, get over it.

I don't see how, but if it gives you a feeling of euphoria to think that way, I say go for it. Anything else?

 

[danielpalos]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

critical thinking is what distinguishes the left, from the right.

 

[ding]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

critical thinking is what distinguishes the left, from the right.

But you don't practice critical thinking. You practice critical theory. They are not the same thing.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The Left love socialism because they embrace the cultural Marxist practice of critical theory.

Please step away from Rush and Hannity. They are just entertainers. You need to stop using their sound bites because that's all they are.

Never watched them. Maybe they are copying my stuff. I'll get my lawyer to check into that.

The problem here is, you either underestimate me or you are overestimating yourself. You got bagged, get over it.

I don't see how, but if it gives you a feeling of euphoria to think that way, I say go for it. Anything else?

Nope. You look like an idiot. That's enough for me.

Have a nice day.