Why should a hamburger flipper make the same as a highly skilled worker???

[Moonglow]

Only to a Marxist such as yourself

Oooooh! You called me a Marxist! What a zing!! I'm a Marxist small business owner! Weeeeeeeeee!

Which means you let the govt take all the losses....

You know when you have nothing, you don't have to post anyway

Some adjust, others sublimate....

I think you need an antonym for sublimate

Is soil okay?

 

[ScienceRocks]

The workers are the one busting their ass...Why the hell should all the riches go to people at the top?

 

[kaz]

Where does a highly skilled trades person only earn 15 an hour?

In the imaginations of the same Republicans who think the rich are being ruined by taxation.

No one says that, clueless one. The rich create jobs, but we have enough money. It's the poor and the middle class you hurt by overtaxing us

Maybe, but so does the middle class. Ever hear of small businesses and start ups??? They're not all rich! The middle class can also create businesses but your dumb ass idiots allow corporations to kill off competition from these businesses and this forces even more wealth into the hands of the rich. It is true that money = power, but all of the money going to 1% of the population isn't a good thing.

The super rich should be taxed more and forced to respect competition. This is how we grow our middle class and our economy.

Yeah yeah, the rich, corporations, whatever you say Karl. BTW, I'm a small business owner. Our enemy isn't large corporations, it's government. They are a brutal oppressor. Lone laugher isn't being honest with his rhetoric and claims to love government. Maybe he has a sole proprietorship and doesn't have to deal with them so much.

My left wing sister in law stopped voting for Democrats when she opened her veterinary clinic and realized what government is doing to us

 

[kaz]

Oooooh! You called me a Marxist! What a zing!! I'm a Marxist small business owner! Weeeeeeeeee!

Which means you let the govt take all the losses....

You know when you have nothing, you don't have to post anyway

Some adjust, others sublimate....

I think you need an antonym for sublimate

Is soil okay?

With the right connotation, sure

 

[kaz]

The workers are the one busting their ass...Why the hell should all the riches go to people at the top?

Then why is my car the only one in the parking lot of my business right now?

 

[mikegriffith1]

That's another reason to raise the Earned Income Tax Credit instead of the minimum wage. It just makes so much more sense. But, of course, liberals care more about pandering and class warfare than they do about really helping the poor.

 

[Wry Catcher]

CEO's? They don't do shit, they make millions sitting around all day

They real workers who deserve millions are the dumb fucks that need 4 of them to figure out how to change a light bulb

It's a give-take relationship, yet CEO's earn millions even if the company losses money....Employees, not so much..Both need each other to operate and produce product...

employees still get paid if the company loses money don't they?

of course they do.

Enron.

CEO's? They don't do shit, they make millions sitting around all day

They real workers who deserve millions are the dumb fucks that need 4 of them to figure out how to change a light bulb

It's a give-take relationship, yet CEO's earn millions even if the company losses money....Employees, not so much..Both need each other to operate and produce product...

employees still get paid if the company loses money don't they?

of course they do.

Do you just make stuff up? Maybe, if you did some research you wouldn't be perceived as a fool and a liar?

Enron, of course is the classic example, and here is some dated material form 2010 - no doubt a consequence of the Great Bush Recession of "07 '09.

The 10 Biggest Failed Pension Plans - US News

 

[Little-Acorn]

CEO's? They don't do shit, they make millions sitting around all day

The only reason the Democrat party even exists today, is by the votes of dimwits they have duped into thinking that is true.

 

[BluesLegend]

NAH! you are the one that spouts your hatred all the time. Just read our replies you have sent even to me. LOL

Why do you hate rich people, is it envy? Jealousy? Or do you hate them simply because you were told to hate them and you obeyed mindlessly? I suspect you know very little about "rich" people, the amount they give to charity, the things the support. Its sad to see so many buying into the acidic rhetoric the left uses to get votes.

I don't recall saying I hate rich people.

My grandfather was one of the best off people in his town financially. Want to know what he did with all his money? He fed people knocking on his door during the Great Depression. He did charity work and gave at church. He lived frugally so his two kids could not have to struggle so hard. He was a rich guy, the best of them.

Dude your post was dripping with hatred.

First you deleted your quote where you were hating the rich, then you pretended you never did hilarious.

 

[BluesLegend]

The workers are the one busting their ass...Why the hell should all the riches go to people at the top?

Why should the riches of the business go to the owners? Duh!!

 

[healthmyths]

Let's see, Moonglow is lying again so we will pick up what was actually said from the previous buried page:

A person making $20/hour still cannot pay all the mortgage, insurance, transporation, food, medical, schooling, sundries etc. that are basic necessities month by month. Once a year tax breaks for people aren't going to patch together the rest of the year. This tax bracket by the way doesn't qualify for any significant tax breaks. Uncle Sam would consider this hypothetical person as "too well off"...

It's slavery. We should just call it what it is. They tell you that you can get ahead with college. But the facts are that there aren't enough jobs out there for everyone to justify going into debt for the rest of their adult life until they die of a stress-related illness of being overworked and underpaid...struggling to afford escalating health costs as their pitiful bodies finally and predictably give out.

It's a sham, a mirage, a false-reality. The American dream died the same time we started importing stuff from China and exporting our jobs there. (where our good capitalists know that their socialized medicine makes it possible for their low wages) Give it up. Don't go to college. Just resign yourself to flipping burgers at McDonalds and dying early and in debt, leaving your kids nothing but a gutted American economy to fight over the scraps of. Hope there are enough police around in about 10-20 years.

I'm not being a nihilist here. This is actually an optimistic prognosis.

The other day I was in a position to watch some police chase down a suspect wanted on multiple felonies, mostly stealing. As I watched from a close vantage point, they finally caught the guy, with the help of a passer by. The cop who caught him was obviously tired, out of shape, struggling. He had an OK haircut, his equipment was a bit rough but clean at least and functional. He was doubled over starting to puke. The exercion made him sick to his stomach. Just another stressful day in a sea of them. I predict he won't live past his late 40s or early 50s. Maybe it was a bad tooth making him sick? Or a poor diet from buying bargain shit at the grocery just to make ends meet on his cop salary?

You'd better hope he's not the thin blue line in your neighborhood as this situation gets worse.
The tipping point in Pre-Revolutionary France was when the cops there woke up and realized where the actual problem was. Seems the thin blue line is the only thing standing between the 1% and the 99% when the oppression reaches a zenith.

The magic bullet for this situation is universal healthcare. It wouldn't even cost employers a dime. In fact, it would save them money: they wouldn't have to provide healthcare insurance. Their workers would be healthier, more productive, their savings in monthly outlay could stimulate the economy.

I've said this like a 100 times and it always falls on deaf ears. The loyalty to the BigHealth is admirable, if foolish.

Why do you hate rich people, is it envy? Jealousy? Or do you hate them simply because you were told to hate them and you obeyed mindlessly? I suspect you know very little about "rich" people, the amount they give to charity, the things the support. Its sad to see so many buying into the acidic rhetoric the left uses to get votes.

I don't recall saying I hate rich people.
My grandfather was one of the best off people in his town financially. Want to know what he did with all his money? He fed people knocking on his door during the Great Depression. He did charity work and gave at church. He lived frugally so his two kids could not have to struggle so hard. He was a rich guy, the best of them.

 

[boedicca]

The workers are the one busting their ass...Why the hell should all the riches go to people at the top?

Here's how this is going to work out: far less workers and far more robots.

Unskilled work that can be replaced by machines is going the way of the Dodo. Demanding more "riches" for it will only hasten the decline.

 

[Ame®icano]

continued.............
To understand how delusional, consider that a $15 an hour full time salary would put you in the same ball park as biologists, auto mechanics, biochemists, teachers, geologists, roofers, and bank tellers.

You’d be making more than some police officers.

You’d easily out earn many firefighters.

Ironically, you’d be fast food workers with starting salaries higher than many professional chefs, which is a bit like paying a tattoo artist less than the person who paints cat whiskers on your face at the carnival.

You’d be halfway to the income of accountants, engineers, and physical therapists.

Does that sound fair? It might sound fun, but does it sound fair? These are highly skilled jobs which require years of training and education. These are jobs which, in some cases, our society profoundly relies upon. Jobs with enormous responsibilities. Jobs that are considerably more complex and complicated than refilling the soda fountain at Roy Rogers.

Fast Food Workers You Don t Deserve 15 an Hour to Flip Burgers and That s OK TheBlaze.com

Being a bank teller is not a trade...

... and flipping burgers is?

 

[Ame®icano]

The better question is:

Should a person working at least 40 hours a week be unable to clothe, feed and shelter themselves.

If that's the case, than any business that can't pay its employees more should go out of business (and would go out of business if the government wasn't supplementing their employees income, since they wouldn't have any employees!)

What liberals don't realize is that WITHOUT any government handouts, these businesses would be force to raise their wages, since their employees would die of exposure or starvation, and then that business would have no employees!

Where does it say that working 40 hours a week must be enough to pay for clothes, food and shelter?

 

[JFK_USA]

The better question is:

Should a person working at least 40 hours a week be unable to clothe, feed and shelter themselves.

If that's the case, than any business that can't pay its employees more should go out of business (and would go out of business if the government wasn't supplementing their employees income, since they wouldn't have any employees!)

What liberals don't realize is that WITHOUT any government handouts, these businesses would be force to raise their wages, since their employees would die of exposure or starvation, and then that business would have no employees!

So you are now advocating for government assistance for poor people? Great! Maybe now we can get rid of this lifetime benefits limit on TANF now that you recognize that these free market capitalist actually need socialism to exist to thrive as a business.

 

[JFK_USA]

The better question is:

Should a person working at least 40 hours a week be unable to clothe, feed and shelter themselves.

If that's the case, than any business that can't pay its employees more should go out of business (and would go out of business if the government wasn't supplementing their employees income, since they wouldn't have any employees!)

What liberals don't realize is that WITHOUT any government handouts, these businesses would be force to raise their wages, since their employees would die of exposure or starvation, and then that business would have no employees!

Where does it say that working 40 hours a week must be enough to pay for clothes, food and shelter?

The whole point of the minimum wage was to ensure workers would have the neccessary amount of money to survive.

Why do you believe that someone working 40 hours/week is not entitled to survival Adolf?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Because it's fair trickle up poor

They don't work hard, they just sit around thinking, burger flippers are on their feet all the day, they are the real workers

Clearly you have never worked a real job.
I worked at four different FF chains years ago...KFC, Captain D's, Wendy's and Dominoes.
I also worked real labor intense jobs 2nd shift for a few years. And spent 13 years managing a 3 shift manufacturing department. And ran a successful printing company for 10 years.
Between the two - there is NO comparison. None, zip, nada.
In fast food you have little timers that tell you what to do 100% of the time. A person can literally walk in and within a few hours, if they are of average intelligence, and do the same work exactly as someone who has been there for years.
It is brain-dead, meaningless, mindless work. The worst thing about it is shear boredom half the time with burst of actual busy work here and there.

Get a real job.

Nope, you have to be trained to do it the way they want you to do it..Which takes longer than a few minutes...If you had ever been in management you'd know that...

I have managed people since 1989.

With or without a whip?

You cannot run a successful small business as an asshole. Especially not in manufacturing with adult working men. The company will never reach it's full potential that way.

 

[Ame®icano]

Shouldn't the question be: Why should a highly skilled worker make only $15 an hour?

Any highly skilled working for $15 and hour is an idiot. Or is not really highly skilled.

It also depends on what "highly skilled" really means for different people. In the eyes of burger flipper, lets say, medical technician thats is paid $15-$20 an hour, might look as highly skilled, while in reality, EMT is entry level medical professional. Being EMT require specific knowledge and training that allows him to work in that field.

 

[Ame®icano]

The minimum a job should pay is a living wage. If you have higher skills than that you should get higher pay than that.

"Should" is subjective term. Lets try this... Would you agree that women should give birth at least 4 times in her lifetime?

Also, in your opinion, what "should" that "living wage" include?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Because Democrat's don't think it's fair one person makes more money then another.

Stupid comments + a lie = and idiot-gram