Why Saudi Arabia is Important

[WinterBorn]

It's not clear what role the government plays, but Saudi citizens certainly do fund ISIS, as well as providing manpower:

Ok...now show evidence that Saudi Arabia as a state funds them.

They certainly allow Saudi citizens to fund them without interference. It is done openly.

Openly? there are BILLBOARDS advertising "TAKE A
TERRORIST TO LUNCH"? ------or "FUND RAISER FOR BOMB ON ASS GIRLS"??

I didn't say they advertised.

oh---ok how is the support of terrorism "OPENED"
in Saudi arabia

It is certainly not hidden. The numbers of soldiers and the amounts of money coming out of Saudi Arabia is seen by everyone in the world.

 

[Bush92]

Yet another fool who does nt know we pulled our residual forces from Iraq because Iraq would not sign the agreement that protects our troops.

Yet another fool who doesn't know we abandoned our opposition to Iran ever having nuclear weapons because Iran would not sign the agreement unless we did.

P.S. What kind of idiot would depend on Iraq to protect OUR troops?

First of all, where did the US drop its opposition to Iran getting a nuke? I bet you are sofa king stupid that you think because the agreement is for ten years that it means we will let Iran have a nuke in ten years? Really You are that fucking dunmb?

Status of Forces agreements. Look it up.

One aspect is that it protects our troops from being arrested by local governments.

Are all you Trumpettes this uninformed?

The agreement is bullshit. Iran is already breaking it dumbass.

 

[irosie91]

I hope one day we will cut ties with the Saudis. We cannot claim we champion human rights while we are allies with the Saudis. The majority of 9/11 attackers were from there, and we just sold them weapons. How has it worked before when we sold weapons to countries in the Middle East? Not good.[/QUO

your thinking is simplistic. "CUTTING TIES" aka IGNORING ---is no way to KNOW what is going on

 

[irosie91]

Ok...now show evidence that Saudi Arabia as a state funds them.

They certainly allow Saudi citizens to fund them without interference. It is done openly.

you got a link?

Openly? there are BILLBOARDS advertising "TAKE A
TERRORIST TO LUNCH"? ------or "FUND RAISER FOR BOMB ON ASS GIRLS"??

I didn't say they advertised.

oh---ok how is the support of terrorism "OPENED"
in Saudi arabia

It is certainly not hidden. The numbers of soldiers and the amounts of money coming out of Saudi Arabia is seen by everyone in the world.

 

[Bush92]

The situation in Iraq WAS AND IS a big issue galvanizing the filth of Iranian
Imperialism------but there are also other issues-----like Iran's alliance with Imperialist
Russia. In any case----GOOD OF YOU to highlight the present Imperialist Threat
which is primarily IRAN and the rest of the Shiites of the world (lots of Shiites
outside of Iran) Russian Imperialism is an aggravating factor. The alliance
between the two most powerful and ambitious IMPERIALISM threats is more
important than DA BOMB. Some people trivialize it

Okay, you see, here's the thing. The only reason why we care about Iran, why we've spend 50 years caring about Iran and fucking it up, is because of our thirst for oil.

If we had invested in energy independence in the 1970's instead of spending hundred billions of dollars spending Hall Monitor in the Middle East, the Shi'ites and Wahhabis arguing over how many Imams can dance on the head of a pin wouldn't be a problem.

We can't have energy independence because tree hugging liberals want to protest every time we want to drill for more oil or dig for more coal.

Coal fueled vehicles. Liberals stopped that shit.

How does coal help our oil situation?

How about oil independence through reduced usage?

How come oil production increased under Obama?

Got lots of pictures and diagrams for dummies like you.
Fossil fuel power station - Wikipedia

 

[Bush92]

The situation in Iraq WAS AND IS a big issue galvanizing the filth of Iranian
Imperialism------but there are also other issues-----like Iran's alliance with Imperialist
Russia. In any case----GOOD OF YOU to highlight the present Imperialist Threat
which is primarily IRAN and the rest of the Shiites of the world (lots of Shiites
outside of Iran) Russian Imperialism is an aggravating factor. The alliance
between the two most powerful and ambitious IMPERIALISM threats is more
important than DA BOMB. Some people trivialize it

Okay, you see, here's the thing. The only reason why we care about Iran, why we've spend 50 years caring about Iran and fucking it up, is because of our thirst for oil.

If we had invested in energy independence in the 1970's instead of spending hundred billions of dollars spending Hall Monitor in the Middle East, the Shi'ites and Wahhabis arguing over how many Imams can dance on the head of a pin wouldn't be a problem.

We can't have energy independence because tree hugging liberals want to protest every time we want to drill for more oil or dig for more coal.

Coal fueled vehicles. Liberals stopped that shit.

How does coal help our oil situation?

How about oil independence through reduced usage?

How come oil production increased under Obama?

Oil production under Obama went up due to law of supply and demand. Now how does that diminish the importance of Saudi Arabia.

 

[Bush92]

22% of our petroleum imports come from Persian Gulf nations. This why Iran needs to be rolled back.
Crude Oil Imports From Persian Gulf

 

[Bush92]

Ok...now show evidence that Saudi Arabia as a state funds them.

They certainly allow Saudi citizens to fund them without interference. It is done openly.

And it needs to stop. Iran just does it as a nation state. Khobar Tower bombing.

I've never denied that Iran needs to be dealt with. But the Saudis get a pass.

You are correct and Trump addressed that in his speech. I am not a fan of Saudi Arabia...but since Obama allowed Iran to go nuclear...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Without independence from foreign oil what are we to do? We can't crash the economy. It's a huge shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.

When did Obama allow Iran to have nuclear weapons?

Iran violates limit established in nuclear deal, UN finds

 

[JoeB131]

22% of our petroleum imports come from Persian Gulf nations. This why Iran needs to be rolled back.

No, it shows why we need to end our dependence on petroleum, not try to build and empire in the Middle East where we aren't wanted and don't really want to go.

 

[RealDave]

They certainly allow Saudi citizens to fund them without interference. It is done openly.

And it needs to stop. Iran just does it as a nation state. Khobar Tower bombing.

I've never denied that Iran needs to be dealt with. But the Saudis get a pass.

You are correct and Trump addressed that in his speech. I am not a fan of Saudi Arabia...but since Obama allowed Iran to go nuclear...the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Without independence from foreign oil what are we to do? We can't crash the economy. It's a huge shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite.

When did Obama allow Iran to have nuclear weapons?

Iran violates limit established in nuclear deal, UN finds

.1 metric ton over the 140+ metric ton limit of heavy water is not a nuclear weapon you stupid shit.

 

[RealDave]

22% of our petroleum imports come from Persian Gulf nations. This why Iran needs to be rolled back.
Crude Oil Imports From Persian Gulf

If everyone reduced their oil usage & lowered the demand, the prices would drop & Iran would lose income. In fact, the Middle East could become irrelevant.
TRump had a fit about our support of Saudi Arabia before he became President. Now he is over their kissing their asses. " Oh Oh Oh Your Worship, can we have more oil? Please please please"

 

[frigidweirdo]

Iran is in the midst of a power play in the region. They are Shia Muslims and the rest of Muslim world is Sunni. Saudi Arabia can help push back. Persia has tried to stamp out western civilization since the time of Ancient Greece. The Obama administration allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapons program and they have already stated publically that they want to destroy Israel. Iran is allied with Russia and North Korea. As a "state sponsor of terrorism" Iran would have no doubts about giving a nuke to terror groups that would blow up a major US city.
Iran Threatens the US and the Middle East: Stay Away from Our Redlines. Obama's Response? | HuffPost

So this is an anti-Iran post? Well, is Iran worse than Saudi Arabia. Well the media says so, all the stories about how bad Iran is, the similar stories from Saudi Arabia mostly don't come out. So Muslims in the Middle East have different views, but the US isn't in the Middle East, so why are they making such a big thing about it.

 

[RealDave]

The situation in Iraq WAS AND IS a big issue galvanizing the filth of Iranian
Imperialism------but there are also other issues-----like Iran's alliance with Imperialist
Russia. In any case----GOOD OF YOU to highlight the present Imperialist Threat
which is primarily IRAN and the rest of the Shiites of the world (lots of Shiites
outside of Iran) Russian Imperialism is an aggravating factor. The alliance
between the two most powerful and ambitious IMPERIALISM threats is more
important than DA BOMB. Some people trivialize it

Okay, you see, here's the thing. The only reason why we care about Iran, why we've spend 50 years caring about Iran and fucking it up, is because of our thirst for oil.

If we had invested in energy independence in the 1970's instead of spending hundred billions of dollars spending Hall Monitor in the Middle East, the Shi'ites and Wahhabis arguing over how many Imams can dance on the head of a pin wouldn't be a problem.

We can't have energy independence because tree hugging liberals want to protest every time we want to drill for more oil or dig for more coal.

Coal fueled vehicles. Liberals stopped that shit.

How does coal help our oil situation?

How about oil independence through reduced usage?

How come oil production increased under Obama?

Got lots of pictures and diagrams for dummies like you.
Fossil fuel power station - Wikipedia

Burning oil in power plants accounts for what percentage?

So tell me again how expanding coal in any kind of solution regarding oil imports.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Iran is in the midst of a power play in the region. They are Shia Muslims and the rest of Muslim world is Sunni. Saudi Arabia can help push back. Persia has tried to stamp out western civilization since the time of Ancient Greece. The Obama administration allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapons program and they have already stated publically that they want to destroy Israel. Iran is allied with Russia and North Korea. As a "state sponsor of terrorism" Iran would have no doubts about giving a nuke to terror groups that would blow up a major US city.
Iran Threatens the US and the Middle East: Stay Away from Our Redlines. Obama's Response? | HuffPost

Obama is no longer the President.

The Shia expansion was a direct result of Bush's war.

The Syrian and Yemen wars are the Saudi led Sunni push back.

Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program.

Do you need anything more clarified for you?

A.) We can thank God for that.

B.) Obama fucked up the US exit from Iraq...so ISIS is a direct result of that as is the rise of Iran.

C.) Assad is allied with Russia...he must go. ( what happend to that red line?)

D.) You are a complete fool if you believe that.

Yet another fool who does nt know we pulled our residual forces from Iraq because Iraq would not sign the agreement that protects our troops.

Then why did we pull out? All we had to do is tell Iraq President it's our way or the highway and we can easily put a bullet in his fuckimg grape. Pussy Obama diplomacy was a failure in SW Asia and Middle-East.

What was a failure? Bush was a failure. Well, Bush was a failure for the Middle East, but probably a success for the right, he created ISIS, he has terrorists killing people in Europe and America, he made the fear, success, and he got oil prices lower by breaking up OPEC and causing havoc.

Was Obama a failure? Well he wasn't a failure for his view of how he wanted the world to be. So he didn't create chaos, it was there already, I'm sorry you think this is failure.

 

[danielpalos]

Iran is in the midst of a power play in the region. They are Shia Muslims and the rest of Muslim world is Sunni. Saudi Arabia can help push back. Persia has tried to stamp out western civilization since the time of Ancient Greece. The Obama administration allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapons program and they have already stated publically that they want to destroy Israel. Iran is allied with Russia and North Korea. As a "state sponsor of terrorism" Iran would have no doubts about giving a nuke to terror groups that would blow up a major US city.
Iran Threatens the US and the Middle East: Stay Away from Our Redlines. Obama's Response? | HuffPost

There is no threat, our finest form of socialism enables our form of capitalism to flourish. Any States of Religion, are welcome to compete with us; what is not covered in our Ten Amendments.

 

[irosie91]

The situation in Iraq WAS AND IS a big issue galvanizing the filth of Iranian
Imperialism------but there are also other issues-----like Iran's alliance with Imperialist
Russia. In any case----GOOD OF YOU to highlight the present Imperialist Threat
which is primarily IRAN and the rest of the Shiites of the world (lots of Shiites
outside of Iran) Russian Imperialism is an aggravating factor. The alliance
between the two most powerful and ambitious IMPERIALISM threats is more
important than DA BOMB. Some people trivialize it

Okay, you see, here's the thing. The only reason why we care about Iran, why we've spend 50 years caring about Iran and fucking it up, is because of our thirst for oil.

If we had invested in energy independence in the 1970's instead of spending hundred billions of dollars spending Hall Monitor in the Middle East, the Shi'ites and Wahhabis arguing over how many Imams can dance on the head of a pin wouldn't be a problem.

We can't have energy independence because tree hugging liberals want to protest every time we want to drill for more oil or dig for more coal.

Coal fueled vehicles. Liberals stopped that shit.

How does coal help our oil situation?

How about oil independence through reduced usage?

How come oil production increased under Obama?

Got lots of pictures and diagrams for dummies like you.
Fossil fuel power station - Wikipedia

Burning oil in power plants accounts for what percentage?

So tell me again how expanding coal in any kind of solution regarding oil imports.

I wish I knew-------seems to me that promotion of ANY ENERGY producing stuff is a reasonable
idea from the perspective of the ECONOMICS of energy producting stuff. I like the WIND MILL
idea-------so poetic

 

[xyz]

One thing I got out of Trump's speech, as well as by the Saudi authorities, was that possibly Trump may go for a war against Iran, which would be a complete disaster for the US.

 

[Nia88]

Saudi Arabia is only important because they have money and the Kaaba. Without those things, no one would care about them.

 

[irosie91]

Saudi Arabia is only important because they have money and the Kaaba. Without those things, no one would care about them.

Saudi Arabia is important because the Kaaba is important to fascist, imperialist IRAN

 

[Dragonlady]

Iran is in the midst of a power play in the region. They are Shia Muslims and the rest of Muslim world is Sunni. Saudi Arabia can help push back. Persia has tried to stamp out western civilization since the time of Ancient Greece. The Obama administration allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapons program and they have already stated publically that they want to destroy Israel. Iran is allied with Russia and North Korea. As a "state sponsor of terrorism" Iran would have no doubts about giving a nuke to terror groups that would blow up a major US city.
Iran Threatens the US and the Middle East: Stay Away from Our Redlines. Obama's Response? | HuffPost

Obama is no longer the President.

The Shia expansion was a direct result of Bush's war.

The Syrian and Yemen wars are the Saudi led Sunni push back.

Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program.

Do you need anything more clarified for you?

A.) We can thank God for that.

B.) Obama fucked up the US exit from Iraq...so ISIS is a direct result of that as is the rise of Iran.

C.) Assad is allied with Russia...he must go. ( what happend to that red line?)

D.) You are a complete fool if you believe that.

Well you're not completely wrong, just mostly.

ISIS was created in 2005 from the remnants of Saddam's army, which Bush fired, but allowed to keep their weapons. They teamed up with an offshoot of Al Qaeda that even Bin Laden considered too extreme, to form the nucleus of ISIS.

Obama didn't botch the exit, Bush botched the occupation, and the Exit Agreement. He failed to win the hearts of the Iraqi people by bringing in outside contractors to rebuild the country instead of hiring desperate and hungry Iraqis to do the work.

Bush made life WORSE for everyday Iraqis than Saddam ever had. They at least had jobs, food and clean water under Saddam.

The rise of Iran is also due to the power vacuum created by taking out Saddam. Anytime you take out a strong man, someone will come forward to fill that vacuum. See also Libya. And it's about to happen with Assad, as well.

This is not to say these were great men who were good for their countries, but when you take out a strong man with no idea of what comes after, it's not going to end well.

As for D, Iran no longer has a nuclear program. And I believe in inspections and verifications.