Why isn't it Mexico's problem to house, feed and take care of these "immigrant" kids?

[simo5656]

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Oh fuck off.

The norm is the US fucks up all the time. But it sure as hell doesn't mean we can't nail other governments when they fuck up too.

Now in this case, Mexico is complicit in this humanitarian crises.

So the US backing governments that murders their own civilians is just ho-hum the US fucking up again? Killing two hundred thousand people and more over three decades is an oversight? You are a joke. You realize this policy hasn't changed, correct?

You realize this policy also took place in Mexico correct?

The US isnt fuckinup by supporting brutal governments, it is simply carrying out bi-partisan policy of the last 50 60 years. Thats not a fuck up. Its deliberate.

I am not privy to Mexico border regulations but as I see it if the US cant defend their own border I doubt Mexico can. In any case, if I were a Mexican government official I would tell the US to fuck off for supporting dictators in Mexcio who brutalized and robbed their country and for carrying out the same policy in their neighbors.

You think an American has more of a right to live then a poor EL Salvadorian child. I dont.

But go ahead its all the third world Meixcos fault and those dumb 13 year old Spanish kids fleeing death and poverty. Yeah, thats a coherent argument buddy.

 

[tinydancer]

IOW, the political elites of the US, Mexico, and Canada view North America as one political unit. Thus, people are just human capital, to be moved around to cause other people to react politically. Political elites don't have allegiance to location or nationality.

Little people are mere pawns, that's all they are.

Harper is staying away from this and he better.

I have the hardest time with this because I do understand people need to flee circumstances. Hell's bells it's what I do for women around the globe. Two young men were just busted a little south of me in Piney. Cripes we know they want a better life. People had to turn them in.

This is horrible. I hate this. But where do we draw the line?

 

[simo5656]

Well then open all your borders then. Take in the poor of the world. Give it. Do it. In case you missed it I'm about to do an OP ED in the Times of India saying all the liberals in America want the poor of the world.

Go for it. i'll help them personally get to your border. Feel guilty. Let's bring every poor person on the planet to America.

You want it. You got it.

man argument.

I believe there is a middle ground to opening up the whole world to immigrants to solving this crisis.

Of course one could follow your idiocy and say, "find go ahead supporting dictators that slaughter innocents everywhere come on."


I repeat:
"What I find most peculiar is your anger at immigrants fleeing US imposed poverty and murder instead of the policy of US imposed poverty and murder. Sure, blame the children suffering for a gasp of water in the heat."


Any back to balanced reasoning. My point is that is the root cause of this problem. Until we acknowledged and reverse our policy of supporting dictators in third world countries who murder their own populations with American weapons we will always face this crisis.

It should be pointed out that that policy should stop whether or not immigrants are coming.

What I find most peculiar is your anger at immigrants fleeing US imposed poverty and murder instead of the policy of US imposed poverty and murder. Sure, blame the children suffering for a gasp of water in the heat.


I am currently working to help shelter people who have been affected from this crisi out of my own dime. My money is where my mouth is. But of course the US cant take every person in in the world. That is all the more reason to treat those we do find as humanely as possible and to stop propping up dictators who murder their homelands which forces them to flee while corporations jump from border to border exploiting one country against the next.

You are writing an op ed for the Indian times? Yet cant follow simple reasoning and know nothing of the historical precedents of this crisis? Thats about as big a joke as I have heard.

Go fuck yourself little one. Judge me when you go to RAWA and criticize me fuck face. I'm hard core.

While you were still shitting your diapers I was rocking on humanitarian issues. I can't follow simple reasoning?

You are dead to me. Pity. I thought at first you could help.

I repeat:
"What I find most peculiar is your anger at immigrants fleeing US imposed poverty and murder instead of the policy of US imposed poverty and murder. Sure, blame the children suffering for a gasp of water in the heat."

Everything else you said, because it was baseless rage and stating you were "hardcore," whatever that means, was pure garbage. You have no intelligent way of critical thinking because your thoughts dont come from your head. They come from some knee jerk idle you love.

I pity the world has come to people writing op-eds in India, that dont the history of the countries in their own hemisphere. I am sure it will be a stellar article.

Keep regurgitating your conventional pieties mainstream boy!!! Hehe.

 

[simo5656]

IOW, the political elites of the US, Mexico, and Canada view North America as one political unit. Thus, people are just human capital, to be moved around to cause other people to react politically. Political elites don't have allegiance to location or nationality.

Little people are mere pawns, that's all they are.

Harper is staying away from this and he better.

I have the hardest time with this because I do understand people need to flee circumstances. Hell's bells it's what I do for women around the globe. Two young men were just busted a little south of me in Piney. Cripes we know they want a better life. People had to turn them in.

This is horrible. I hate this. But where do we draw the line?

mindless drone. Where do we draw the line on our Latin American dictator friends murdering them and us supporting it? 30 years an nearly half-0a million dead not enough to draw the line?

If you want to stop unbridled immigration you have to start using these small countries as imperial backyards for our fun. Its that simple. For now, do what you can to sure up the border and provide humanitarian aid.

This isn't just people wanting a better life. Its people fleeing war torn nations. Theres a difference, that apparently you cant comprehend.

 

[tinydancer]

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Oh fuck off.

The norm is the US fucks up all the time. But it sure as hell doesn't mean we can't nail other governments when they fuck up too.

Now in this case, Mexico is complicit in this humanitarian crises.

So the US backing governments that murders their own civilians is just ho-hum the US fucking up again? Killing two hundred thousand people and more over three decades is an oversight? You are a joke. You realize this policy hasn't changed, correct?

You realize this policy also took place in Mexico correct?

The US isnt fuckinup by supporting brutal governments, it is simply carrying out bi-partisan policy of the last 50 60 years. Thats not a fuck up. Its deliberate.

I am not privy to Mexico border regulations but as I see it if the US cant defend their own border I doubt Mexico can. In any case, if I were a Mexican government official I would tell the US to fuck off for supporting dictators in Mexcio who brutalized and robbed their country and for carrying out the same policy in their neighbors.

You think an American has more of a right to live then a poor EL Salvadorian child. I dont.

But go ahead its all the third world Meixcos fault and those dumb 13 year old Spanish kids fleeing death and poverty. Yeah, thats a coherent argument buddy.

I've worked for close than two decades kicking ass in several lands and sometimes to some fear in Islam to help the poor but specifically working for women's rights.

Don't lecture me. One thing I have learned over all these years and I'm about to smack you upside the head on is that we will NOT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM IF WE ARE AS POOR AS THEM.

Look at what you posted to me.

You think an American has more of a right to live then a poor EL Salvadorian child. I dont.


How can I help them if I am not more wealthier than a poor el salvidorian child? How can I go on this internet and ask for money and support to help an Afghani woman?

And look what you accuse me of? That I want an el salvadorian child to rot in poverty?

What type of humanitarian are you to even accuse someone else of this?

Prove what I highlighted in red.

 

[tinydancer]

IOW, the political elites of the US, Mexico, and Canada view North America as one political unit. Thus, people are just human capital, to be moved around to cause other people to react politically. Political elites don't have allegiance to location or nationality.

Little people are mere pawns, that's all they are.

Harper is staying away from this and he better.

I have the hardest time with this because I do understand people need to flee circumstances. Hell's bells it's what I do for women around the globe. Two young men were just busted a little south of me in Piney. Cripes we know they want a better life. People had to turn them in.

This is horrible. I hate this. But where do we draw the line?

mindless drone. Where do we draw the line on our Latin American dictator friends murdering them and us supporting it? 30 years an nearly half-0a million dead not enough to draw the line?

If you want to stop unbridled immigration you have to start using these small countries as imperial backyards for our fun. Its that simple. For now, do what you can to sure up the border and provide humanitarian aid.

This isn't just people wanting a better life. Its people fleeing war torn nations. Theres a difference, that apparently you cant comprehend.

Then open the flood gates bitch. Not my worry.

 

[tinydancer]

Every lib with Simo here? Open the doors. Get ready.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I wish other countries would show some responsablity. Maybe clean things up a little?

 

[simo5656]

Harper is staying away from this and he better.

I have the hardest time with this because I do understand people need to flee circumstances. Hell's bells it's what I do for women around the globe. Two young men were just busted a little south of me in Piney. Cripes we know they want a better life. People had to turn them in.

This is horrible. I hate this. But where do we draw the line?

mindless drone. Where do we draw the line on our Latin American dictator friends murdering them and us supporting it? 30 years an nearly half-0a million dead not enough to draw the line?

If you want to stop unbridled immigration you have to start using these small countries as imperial backyards for our fun. Its that simple. For now, do what you can to sure up the border and provide humanitarian aid.

This isn't just people wanting a better life. Its people fleeing war torn nations. Theres a difference, that apparently you cant comprehend.

Then open the flood gates bitch. Not my worry.

brilliant argument by the big op-ed man.

I have a suggestion, one that you cant fathom because you are such a tool of you partisan dogma.

How about, now get ready, we stop supporting dictators who murder their own people in Central America?

Hows that for a start? Hm.

No, no. That thought cant even cross your mind.

Again, your anger over children fleeing war is far larger then your anger at us for killing thousands of innocent people.

That, discredits you, perpetually.

By the way, I am not a liberal. But you cant help but call me one, since you are only capable of arguing in a dogmatic partisan box like the good indoctrinated puppy you are.

You are joke. Im glad I was able to out you on that.

 

[simo5656]

I wish other countries would show some responsablity. Maybe clean things up a little?

other countries are by and large run by US backed dicators or were run by US backed dicators which over time destroyed any hope of achieving normal growth. The children are fleeing the results of our terror in Latin America. I hope everyone of them that can gets out.

 

[simo5656]

Every lib with Simo here? Open the doors. Get ready.

the lyrics you have under your name are incredibly blah. I cant believe you posted that as if they are in any way good lyrics. Reflects your political wit. Hehe.

 

[kaz]

They're coming HERE. Idjit. Mexico probably has a good ID card, that Pubs don't allow here...

Mexico sounds way more advanced than we are. Think we should adopt their policies for dealing with illegal aliens?

 

[simo5656]

"Winston Churchill: The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries"

Winston CHurchill advocated using arabs as tests for chemical gas expierments. He was overall a horrible racist and monster.

But his quote is entirely wrong. Those not blessed by capitalism are in misery. Those all forced to be the same are in misery. So you strike a balance, guarantee basic elements of survival and then compete from there. It is called social-democracy.

In any case, a racist murderer like Churchill isn't someone I would quote.

 

[Vigilante]

I don't get it. Why isn't this Mexico's job? It's Mexico that allowed these kids through their southern border.
I get that the Obama administration wants to destroy our nation by getting rid of our border and importing future Democrat voters.
But can someone please explain why no conservatives, or even RINOs, are taking the position that this is Mexico's problem, and demanding that it absorb this population which at least shares with them a common language (for the most part)? And why isn't the United States demanding money from Mexico and every Central American country of origin to pay for the damages that this invasion is causing us?

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

The only fucking thing the United States is responsible for is a ideologue president, that INVITED all these invaders into this country, with a STAY HERE FREE CARD!!

 

[Vigilante]

Once they're here, the only way to send them to Mexico (or wherever they originally came from) is to deport them through an immigration court. That's not a result of congress, it's the Supreme Court. You cannot change that reality no matter how many drugs you take. Which is why everyone outside the loonasphere TPM has been trying to get an immigration bill.

Of course you can, by a simple E.O. that WAIVER the law! How many times was this done with just the ObumaCare law...for the low information voter, over 30 times the PASSED LAW WAS CHANGED WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL CONSENT!

So don't try bullshit, when the Obomanation has already done bullshit, with NO PUSHBACK from Congress as there should have been!

U can't EO when the supremes have already said no deportation w/o a court hearing. That dog don't hunt. But I realize fantasy is your reality.

Of course he can...who is going to stop him?....The SCOTUS have an army?....Does Congress have an Army?.... do any of them have the POLICE POWER to enforce the law, or is it only the president, his AG and HIS MILITARY that can enforce laws! You make it sound like he's NOT a dictator!

 

[simo5656]

I don't get it. Why isn't this Mexico's job? It's Mexico that allowed these kids through their southern border.
I get that the Obama administration wants to destroy our nation by getting rid of our border and importing future Democrat voters.
But can someone please explain why no conservatives, or even RINOs, are taking the position that this is Mexico's problem, and demanding that it absorb this population which at least shares with them a common language (for the most part)? And why isn't the United States demanding money from Mexico and every Central American country of origin to pay for the damages that this invasion is causing us?

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

The only fucking thing the United States is responsible for is a ideologue president, that INVITED all these invaders into this country, with a STAY HERE FREE CARD!!

failed to touch on one issue I raised. It wasn't evena response really. It was a tlaking point, kinda.

In reality it was your way of saying I dont know enough stuff to respond to what you wrote. You raised a white flag.

What you did show clearly is that you are racist. WHich schockingly makes you look no less stupid then your post intneded.

But keep up with the good arguing.

Anyway, Obama is a bad President. I in no way argued otherwise so I dont know what the purpose of your picture was.

What I do know is, you are so trapped in a debate of repubs vs liberals that you cant even coherently discuss a topic with someone who is neither liberal or republican. You are literally devoid of any intellectual ingenuity. A regurtgiator of the worst, vile kind.

Now if youll excuse me I would prefer to converse with people interested in facts an from whom I can learn something.

You sir are interested in no fact and can teach me nothing other then how to avoid a bigot.

 

[simo5656]

Of course you can, by a simple E.O. that WAIVER the law! How many times was this done with just the ObumaCare law...for the low information voter, over 30 times the PASSED LAW WAS CHANGED WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL CONSENT!

So don't try bullshit, when the Obomanation has already done bullshit, with NO PUSHBACK from Congress as there should have been!

U can't EO when the supremes have already said no deportation w/o a court hearing. That dog don't hunt. But I realize fantasy is your reality.

Of course he can...who is going to stop him?....The SCOTUS have an army?....Does Congress have an Army?.... do any of them have the POLICE POWER to enforce the law, or is it only the president, his AG and HIS MILITARY that can enforce laws! You make it sound like he's NOT a dictator!

are joke pictures? Literally, joke pictures.

I highly doubt you even know what a Muslim is. AN for making fun of an entire religion of people you are no better then a NAZI. You mindless, dumb, generic, drone, who almost definitely , is a virgin.

Wow your an intellectual mt.

 

[Siete]

U can't EO when the supremes have already said no deportation w/o a court hearing. That dog don't hunt. But I realize fantasy is your reality.

Of course he can...who is going to stop him?....The SCOTUS have an army?....Does Congress have an Army?.... do any of them have the POLICE POWER to enforce the law, or is it only the president, his AG and HIS MILITARY that can enforce laws! You make it sound like he's NOT a dictator!

are joke pictures? Literally, joke pictures.

I highly doubt you even know what a Muslim is. AN for making fun of an entire religion of people you are no better then a NAZI. You mindless, dumb, generic, drone, who almost definitely , is a virgin.

Wow your an intellectual mt.

there ya go ... Virgilauntie, busted AGAIN !

 

[Vigilante]

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

The only fucking thing the United States is responsible for is a ideologue president, that INVITED all these invaders into this country, with a STAY HERE FREE CARD!!

failed to touch on one issue I raised. It wasn't evena response really. It was a tlaking point, kinda.

In reality it was your way of saying I dont know enough stuff to respond to what you wrote. You raised a white flag.

What you did show clearly is that you are racist. WHich schockingly makes you look no less stupid then your post intneded.

But keep up with the good arguing.

Anyway, Obama is a bad President. I in no way argued otherwise so I dont know what the purpose of your picture was.

What I do know is, you are so trapped in a debate of repubs vs liberals that you cant even coherently discuss a topic with someone who is neither liberal or republican. You are literally devoid of any intellectual ingenuity. A regurtgiator of the worst, vile kind.

Now if youll excuse me I would prefer to converse with people interested in facts an from whom I can learn something.

You sir are interested in no fact and can teach me nothing other then how to avoid a bigot.

Of course when the fucking amnesty freaks, subversives ,and assholes that don't seem to understand we are taking away from American citizens, to give to DISEASED, FOREIGN INVADERS that which is ours, they have NO RIGHT TO, and which this fucking president in less than 6 years has doubled our debt, they call me a RACIST...OK, I WEAR THE BADGE PROUDLY, I'm for AMERICA, and not a bunch of FREE LOADING INVADERS that were invited here by your pond scum president!.... Please also call me a bigot, and how about an Islamophobe, and any other delusional term you care to, I'll just refer to you as POND SCUM, who has less intelligence than the above named POND SCUM!

I don't care what label you place on yourself, you have subversive ideas, so, logically you're a fucking progressive that is NOT MAN ENOUGH to own up to what he is! You, child, are a joke, and I will continue to treat you as a joke, a very sad, and disgusting joke, but a joke, none the less!

 

[Vigilante]

U can't EO when the supremes have already said no deportation w/o a court hearing. That dog don't hunt. But I realize fantasy is your reality.

Of course he can...who is going to stop him?....The SCOTUS have an army?....Does Congress have an Army?.... do any of them have the POLICE POWER to enforce the law, or is it only the president, his AG and HIS MILITARY that can enforce laws! You make it sound like he's NOT a dictator!

are joke pictures? Literally, joke pictures.

I highly doubt you even know what a Muslim is. AN for making fun of an entire religion of people you are no better then a NAZI. You mindless, dumb, generic, drone, who almost definitely , is a virgin.

Wow your an intellectual mt.

Thank you Heir Adolph for your keen insight! Come on now, you didn't call me a faggot yet, or some other derogation relating to gay sex.... Is that your next volley, child? If your IQ got any lower, you'd be able to see the bottom of my shoe, without bending over.

Hey ladies, Simpleton says I'm a virgin, better jump on me quickly, as that FIRST SHOT will be something to talk about forever! Been holding back for just about 7 decades, damn, no wonder I have a hard time with the zipper.... Thanks Simpleton, that was worth the price of your admission!