Why isn't it Mexico's problem to house, feed and take care of these "immigrant" kids?

[bendog]

I don't get it. Why isn't this Mexico's job? It's Mexico that allowed these kids through their southern border.
I get that the Obama administration wants to destroy our nation by getting rid of our border and importing future Democrat voters.
But can someone please explain why no conservatives, or even RINOs, are taking the position that this is Mexico's problem, and demanding that it absorb this population which at least shares with them a common language (for the most part)? And why isn't the United States demanding money from Mexico and every Central American country of origin to pay for the damages that this invasion is causing us?

Once they're here, the only way to send them to Mexico (or wherever they originally came from) is to deport them through an immigration court. That's not a result of congress, it's the Supreme Court. You cannot change that reality no matter how many drugs you take. Which is why everyone outside the loonasphere TPM has been trying to get an immigration bill.

Of course you can, by a simple E.O. that WAIVER the law! How many times was this done with just the ObumaCare law...for the low information voter, over 30 times the PASSED LAW WAS CHANGED WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL CONSENT!

So don't try bullshit, when the Obomanation has already done bullshit, with NO PUSHBACK from Congress as there should have been!

U can't EO when the supremes have already said no deportation w/o a court hearing. That dog don't hunt. But I realize fantasy is your reality.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Conservatards could at the very least do the humane thing and ship them up to Canada, so they can live in a country that doesn't hate the poor so much that they would deny them access to healthcare.

But no, your immediate answer is always "HYUCK HYUCK IT'S ALL MEXICO'S FAULT," even for cases in which you acknowledge that the immigrants aren't even all Mexican.

How many MS13 gang members can we send you? Perhaps the ones that have felony records for rape, and molestation?/..... 2 maybe three?

Whenever a conservatard bigot encounters logic and reason from a strong, independent womyn that he simply cannot counter, the immediate response is invariably some sexual comment, usually involving rape threats or accusations of promiscuity. It's really sad that you're supposedly an adult and you still think and act like such a child. Grow up and embrace lybyrylysm.

They pass through OVER 1000 miles of Mexican territory to get here you dumb liberal bitch, why isn't Mexico stopping them as they used to?

Since when is it Mexico's job to act as America's border patrol?

you have no idea what he is talking about do ya?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I don't get it. Why isn't this Mexico's job? It's Mexico that allowed these kids through their southern border.
I get that the Obama administration wants to destroy our nation by getting rid of our border and importing future Democrat voters.
But can someone please explain why no conservatives, or even RINOs, are taking the position that this is Mexico's problem, and demanding that it absorb this population which at least shares with them a common language (for the most part)? And why isn't the United States demanding money from Mexico and every Central American country of origin to pay for the damages that this invasion is causing us?

Check out how many Corporations are taking advantage of the cheap labor....That should answer the question for you.

The Right only cares about profits today, not about the people. The Left is getting there too.

the left has been there....but im sure they are telling you something you want to hear...

 

[Harry Dresden]

They're coming HERE. Idjit. Mexico probably has a good ID card, that Pubs don't allow here...

You're more fucked up tonight than normal, more rants please, your entertainment value increases with the shrillness of your stupidity!

So why do you think we have 11 million illegals working, paying taxes, owning homes, getting health care, etc, etc? Shyttehead.

half of them are where i am at Frankie....and a hell of a lot of them dont pay taxes or own homes.....is that what your "party" told you to run with?....

 

[Spoonman]

good, let's reduce the size of govt. That'll solve immigration. Solid work there. Let's enforce the laws that aren't being enforced because we have too few courts to do so by having fewer courts. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

it is. do you have your documentation to be here? No? Next train back across the border leaves in two hours. of course you are free to remain here and labor in one of our infrastructure rebuilding prison work programs. your choice

 

[simo5656]

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

 

[Erand7899]

Conservatards could at the very least do the humane thing and ship them up to Canada, so they can live in a country that doesn't hate the poor so much that they would deny them access to healthcare.

But no, your immediate answer is always "HYUCK HYUCK IT'S ALL MEXICO'S FAULT," even for cases in which you acknowledge that the immigrants aren't even all Mexican.

Conservatives are not in our current government, and have little power to ship these children anywhere. Our current government, is an incompetent cadre of Liberal/Socialists, who not only helped create the problem, now doesn't have the foggiest idea of how to fix it. So, save your partisan hate the poor rhetoric for the people you helped put in charge.

Mexico is complicit in this crisis by their failure to control their borders, failure to intercept these children, and failure to ensure their safety while crossing Mexico.

Our government is complicit in this crisis by failure to nip it in the bud before it became a nightmare for thousands of children. Failure to prepare for the flood of children that they knew were coming, and failure to treat these children humanely when they got here.

It doesn't take much common sense to rectify the problem. Take $10,000 out of the foreign aid account for each child processed at the border. Take it both from the country of origin, and Mexico. That will stop the exodus, and cover the costs of caring for these children.

 

[Againsheila]

good, let's reduce the size of govt. That'll solve immigration. Solid work there. Let's enforce the laws that aren't being enforced because we have too few courts to do so by having fewer courts. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

 

[simo5656]

good, let's reduce the size of govt. That'll solve immigration. Solid work there. Let's enforce the laws that aren't being enforced because we have too few courts to do so by having fewer courts. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

 

[tinydancer]

They're coming HERE. Idjit. Mexico probably has a good ID card, that Pubs don't allow here...

They are hard core anti illegal immigration. Built a fence on their southern border.

But they are helping your President transport illegal babies thru their land and into America.

 

[Stephanie]

ok, so now this our fault so we just NEED to sit back, shut up and take in the whole worlds people's

gawdalmighty

 

[tinydancer]

good, let's reduce the size of govt. That'll solve immigration. Solid work there. Let's enforce the laws that aren't being enforced because we have too few courts to do so by having fewer courts. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Well then open all your borders then. Take in the poor of the world. Give it. Do it. In case you missed it I'm about to do an OP ED in the Times of India saying all the liberals in America want the poor of the world.

Go for it. i'll help them personally get to your border. Feel guilty. Let's bring every poor person on the planet to America.

You want it. You got it.

 

[Jughead]

They're coming HERE. Idjit. Mexico probably has a good ID card, that Pubs don't allow here...

And Mexico is enabling them, now they are providing 72 hour passes to get through Mexico and to the US. All aid should be cut off until these countries stop participating in the trafficking.

It's ok for Mexico to deny these folks entering their country from staying, yet it's not ok for the US to do the same? This double standard makes the whole situation even worse and gives zero credibility to those who argue in favor of letting the illegals stay. The US has no obligation to these illegals other than to return them to their countries of origin.

 

[tinydancer]

ok, so now this our fault so we just NEED to sit back, shut up and take in the whole worlds people's

gawdalmighty

Steph you are more than welcome in my house in the middle of nowhere. America is fucked. I think it is broke and I don't think I'm going to be hanging out in my house in Cocoa anytime soon.

Girl. I am going to do something that will make libs crawl on their hands and knees and wish they hadn't pushed me this far.

I am going to send the articles that have appeared as OP EDS in Central American Newspapers around the world.

I am going to tell the world that Obama wants all their poor. And that he is going to make them legal. just like the CA media has promoted for him.

 

[tinydancer]

They're coming HERE. Idjit. Mexico probably has a good ID card, that Pubs don't allow here...

And Mexico is enabling them, now they are providing 72 hour passes to get through Mexico and to the US. All aid should be cut off until these countries stop participating in the trafficking.

It's ok for Mexico to deny these folks entering their country from staying, yet it's not ok for the US to do the same? This double standard makes the whole situation even worse and gives zero credibility to those who argue in favor of letting the illegals stay. The US has no obligation to these illegals other than to return them to their countries of origin.

Oh Mexico is right on this shit.

 

[simo5656]

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Well then open all your borders then. Take in the poor of the world. Give it. Do it. In case you missed it I'm about to do an OP ED in the Times of India saying all the liberals in America want the poor of the world.

Go for it. i'll help them personally get to your border. Feel guilty. Let's bring every poor person on the planet to America.

You want it. You got it.

man argument.

I believe there is a middle ground to opening up the whole world to immigrants to solving this crisis.

Of course one could follow your idiocy and say, "find go ahead supporting dictators that slaughter innocents everywhere come on."


Any back to balanced reasoning. My point is that is the root cause of this problem. Until we acknowledged and reverse our policy of supporting dictators in third world countries who murder their own populations with American weapons we will always face this crisis.

It should be pointed out that that policy should stop whether or not immigrants are coming.

What I find most peculiar is your anger at immigrants fleeing US imposed poverty and murder instead of the policy of US imposed poverty and murder. Sure, blame the children suffering for a gasp of water in the heat.


I am currently working to help shelter people who have been affected from this crisi out of my own dime. My money is where my mouth is. But of course the US cant take every person in in the world. That is all the more reason to treat those we do find as humanely as possible and to stop propping up dictators who murder their homelands which forces them to flee while corporations jump from border to border exploiting one country against the next.

You are writing an op ed for the Indian times? Yet cant follow simple reasoning and know nothing of the historical precedents of this crisis? Thats about as big a joke as I have heard.

 

[MisterBeale]

Once they're here, the only way to send them to Mexico (or wherever they originally came from) is to deport them through an immigration court. That's not a result of congress, it's the Supreme Court. You cannot change that reality no matter how many drugs you take. Which is why everyone outside the loonasphere TPM has been trying to get an immigration bill.

so lets get deporting

They are. But there's physical/fiscal limit to how many you can deport, unless you want your taxes to go up a thousand bucks or so a year.

try google "how much would it cost to deport all illegal aliens"

Great, so US citizens are paying for them to come here, and paying for them to be deported? I'm not so sure. I'm not a regular listener of AJ, but I had to go there for a different perspective and links to some alternative media. Something fishy is going on. The MSM is NOT giving us the full story. There is no huge war pushing refugees all of a sudden. The political elites in Washington WANT to make this an issue now, but why?

Problem ====> Reaction ====> Solution?

Ex-border agents: Immigrant flood 'orchestrated'
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/ex-border-agents-immigrant-flood-orchestrated/

An organization of former Border Patrol agents Wednesday charged that the federal government, under the administration of President Obama, is deliberately arranging for a flood of immigrant children to arrive in America for political purposes.

“This is not a humanitarian crisis. It is a predictable, orchestrated and contrived assault on the compassionate side of Americans by her political leaders that knowingly puts minor illegal alien children at risk for purely political purposes,” said the statement released by the National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers.

“Certainly, we are not gullible enough to believe that thousands of unaccompanied minor Central American children came to America without the encouragement, aid and assistance of the United States government,” the officers said.

WND EXCLUSIVE: Congressmen say Obama “attempt to flood border” part of infamous socialist “Cloward-Piven” strategy

“Anyone that has taken two six- to seven-year-old children to an amusement park can only imagine the problems associated with bringing thousands of unaccompanied children that age up through Mexico and into the United States.”

Read more at Ex-border agents: Immigrant flood ?orchestrated?

SHOCK, ‘EN-ROUTE’: 300,000 More Kids Already On The Way

http://patdollard.com/2014/07/shock-en-route-300000-more-kids-already-on-the-way/

IN fact, one source told Newsradio 1200 WOAI as many as 300,000 Central American immigrants are now ‘en route’ to the United States through Mexico, and the Department of Defense has asked military bases around the country to find 180 barracks, holding centers, and other facilities to house the flood which is not expected to stop coming any time soon.
Read more at SHOCK, ?EN-ROUTE?: 300,000 More Kids Already On The Way « Pat Dollard

Mexico made deal to send more illegal aliens to the U.S.
http://www.examiner.com/article/mexico-made-deal-to-send-more-illegal-aliens-to-the-u-s

On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.

The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage, will provide for more border checkpoints along Mexico's border with Guatemala, and offer more protection and even emergency medical care to those making their way north. The illegal aliens will receive a so-called Regional Visitor's Card, according to El Universal.

Officially, the program will grant the cards to only illegal aliens from Guatemala and Belize, allowing them to remain in Mexico's southern states for 72 hours (more than enough time to reach the U.S./Mexican border by train). While, those two countries share a border with Mexico, the program will undoubtedly benefit anyone who makes it to the border, which would explain why our Border Patrol stations are currently overflowing with illegal aliens from El Salvador and Honduras as well.

TSA grants security amnesty to illegals: no ID required to fly commercial airplanes, but only if you're NOT an American (opinion)

The Department of Homeland Security has long insisted that Americans "might be terrorists" and therefore must be subjected to rigorous searches, penetrating radiation scans, ID requirements and even a secretive, Stasi-style "no fly list." But now illegal aliens who are known to consist of gang members who pose a clear and present danger to public safety are being mass-boarded onto U.S. commercial aircraft without having to show an ID at all.

"The aliens who are getting released on their own recognizance are being allowed to board and travel commercial airliners by simply showing their Notice to Appear forms," says the NBPC. It goes on to point out that these "Notice to Appear forms" can be easily faked using a home computer and printer.

"The Notice to Appear form has no photo, anyone can make one and manipulate one. They do not have any security features, no watermark, nothing. They are simply printed on standard copy paper based on the information the illegal alien says is the truth.”

Learn more: TSA grants security amnesty to illegals: no ID required to fly commercial airplanes, but only if you're NOT an American (opinion) - NaturalNews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com/045974_illegal_aliens_security_amnesty_TSA.html#ixzz37TZOqVVa

Immigration Policy Promoting Collapse of America
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=17882

But there is an odd twist to the wage-slavery issue, says Carl Takei, of the American Civil Liberties Union, in a New York Times report. Federal law prohibits the use of illegal aliens by any employer, including the federal government. However, that same government is paradoxically the largest single employer of these illicit workers—as many as 60,000 in the past year.

They are civil detainees awaiting resolution of their immigration status, who are provided a “voluntary” opportunity to work, for purposes of morale and reducing costs of internment. Many, however, are actually legal residents or even citizens. The pay is a relic of the 1950s—one dollar per day, or even nothing at all—and has not been formally authorized in law since 1979. Some call that good business, saving taxpayers’ money.


In reality though, it is often only a handful of private prison companies that profit, like The GEO Group, Inc. and Corrections Corporation of America. Privatized detention of illegal aliens is highly lucrative, with net dollar profits of hundreds of millions each year, and more so since significant labor costs disappear through the use of interned foreigners.
- See more at: Immigration Policy Promoting Collapse of America | American Free Press

Obama Presses "North American Union" With Mexico, Canada
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17705-obama-presses-north-american-union-with-mexico-canada

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10653-wikileaks-confirms-north-american-integration-scheme

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[tinydancer]

good, let's reduce the size of govt. That'll solve immigration. Solid work there. Let's enforce the laws that aren't being enforced because we have too few courts to do so by having fewer courts. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

They got the money to build the fence and yet only 1/3 of it was built. Stop them at the border, they don't need to go to court.

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Oh fuck off.

The norm is the US fucks up all the time. But it sure as hell doesn't mean we can't nail other governments when they fuck up too.

Now in this case, Mexico is complicit in this humanitarian crises.

 

[MisterBeale]

IOW, the political elites of the US, Mexico, and Canada view North America as one political unit. Thus, people are just human capital, to be moved around to cause other people to react politically. Political elites don't have allegiance to location or nationality.

Little people are mere pawns, that's all they are.

 

[tinydancer]

this is a tough one but I'll try.

Maybe because the US is RESPONSBILE FOR THIS, by supporting over 100, thats right, 100 different dictators int her region. US backed slaughters in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador lead to the deaths of over 200,000 people in the 80s. Priests and altar boys being murderers. People cut to pieces with machetes. Genital shock torture often with lists of names given by the CIA. The US installed, overthrew, financed, militarized and trained these murderers and continue to aid them well after. They still do. The countries were in turn robbed by the uS backed/supported dictators and now is infested with drug-gangs, who are also associated with ties to the government(and the US mainland being their biggest purchasers with US banks cleaning off the money and the CIA nearly always using drug money in Latin America to fund the overthrow of elected governments). The US has done the same pattern in Mexico as well. Check it and see.


These people are fleeing the poverty that overwhelmingly we helped create(colonial powers before us too).

But yeah, lets take your devoid of blame Mexico argument.

Well then open all your borders then. Take in the poor of the world. Give it. Do it. In case you missed it I'm about to do an OP ED in the Times of India saying all the liberals in America want the poor of the world.

Go for it. i'll help them personally get to your border. Feel guilty. Let's bring every poor person on the planet to America.

You want it. You got it.

man argument.

I believe there is a middle ground to opening up the whole world to immigrants to solving this crisis.

Of course one could follow your idiocy and say, "find go ahead supporting dictators that slaughter innocents everywhere come on."


Any back to balanced reasoning. My point is that is the root cause of this problem. Until we acknowledged and reverse our policy of supporting dictators in third world countries who murder their own populations with American weapons we will always face this crisis.

It should be pointed out that that policy should stop whether or not immigrants are coming.

What I find most peculiar is your anger at immigrants fleeing US imposed poverty and murder instead of the policy of US imposed poverty and murder. Sure, blame the children suffering for a gasp of water in the heat.


I am currently working to help shelter people who have been affected from this crisi out of my own dime. My money is where my mouth is. But of course the US cant take every person in in the world. That is all the more reason to treat those we do find as humanely as possible and to stop propping up dictators who murder their homelands which forces them to flee while corporations jump from border to border exploiting one country against the next.

You are writing an op ed for the Indian times? Yet cant follow simple reasoning and know nothing of the historical precedents of this crisis? Thats about as big a joke as I have heard.

Go fuck yourself little one. Judge me when you go to RAWA and criticize me fuck face. I'm hard core.

While you were still shitting your diapers I was rocking on humanitarian issues. I can't follow simple reasoning?

You are dead to me. Pity. I thought at first you could help.