Why ISIS is Americas Problem

[pismoe]

thing is that troops and more war in the middle east is going to happen big time but the longer we wait the worse it will be . I saw a blurb with 'feinstein' the other night and even she is getting worried Luddley !!

 

[pismoe]

Feinstein and her concerns !! --- Lawmakers Express Concern on Spread of Islamic State - Washington Wire - WSJ ---

 

[Kondor3]

On the other hand, climate change threatens all of us. I was sweating weeding my garden today. A sure sign we are running out of time....

You and your ilk definitely are running out of time.

Uh-oh, Deltex, they pulled out the ilk word... now you're in deep kimchee...

 

[NYcarbineer]

None of this shit in the ME would be our problem if we'd stop making it our problem.

 

[jon_berzerk]

On the other hand, climate change threatens all of us. I was sweating weeding my garden today. A sure sign we are running out of time....

You and your ilk definitely are running out of time.

Uh-oh, Deltex, they pulled out the ilk word... now you're in deep kimchee...

--LOL

 

[pismoe]

yeah , you are pretty silly Carbineer !!

 

[NYcarbineer]

yeah , you are pretty silly Carbineer !!

They're using captured US weapons. How did those weapons get there?

 

[Geaux4it]

None of this shit in the ME would be our problem if we'd stop making it our problem.

that's because they are making it our problem

See what I did there?

-Geaux

 

[idb]

ISIS is America's Frankenstein monster.
Created by the US and now turning on its former master.

 

[auditor0007]

Lets see, where do I begin? Some JV team from a desert somewhere we're told.




And just how did they arm themselves?

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ISIS Is Taking Over Iraq Using Captured American Weapons

ISIS is marching through city after city in Iraq, and they are doing it with American weapons. Thanks to a series of stunning victories in recent months, ISIS has captured a vast array of U.S. military equipment including trucks, Humvees, rockets, artillery pieces and Stinger missiles.

ISIS Is Taking Over Iraq Using Captured American Weapons Washington s Blog

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Now we have to reflect on why ISIS has become such a strength. Where did the void materialize for which ISIS quickly filled , like ants on a dropped piece of gum?

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Panetta: Obama Wrong on Iraq Pullout, Failure to Arm Syrians

Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says his old boss, President Barack Obama, erred when he failed to leave a residual military force in Iraq – and when he didn't opt to arm the Free Syrian Army earlier.

"I really thought that it was important for us to maintain a presence in Iraq," Panetta said in an interview aired Sunday on CBS's "60 Minutes."

Panetta said he and Obama's other advisers thought that at least 8,000 U.S. troops should have stayed in Iraq. "And frankly, having those troops there I think would've given us greater leverage on [Prime Minister Nouri al-]Maliki to try to force him to do the right thing as well."

The Obama administration has insisted that al-Maliki would not make a "status of forces" agreement that U.S. troops would not be prosecuted by Iraq's government. Republican critics claim the real reason is that Obama wanted to fulfill his campaign promise to completely end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Panetta Obama Wrong on Iraq Pullout Failure to Arm Syrians

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There's been this issue though that ISIS really wants us dead well... you know..... because well, we're not Muslim or more simply, we're Americans

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The White House said Sunday that a review of an Islamic State video confirms that American hostage Peter Kassig, an aid worker and former Army Ranger, has been beheaded by the terror group.

New ISIS video shows beheading of American hostage Peter Kassig Fox News



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And now we see the fall of Ramadi and only 60 miles away Baghdad looms



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And then we have the parade. You know? We can send the Obama drone brigade to snuff out some douche in a cave out in nowhere land, yet we can't seem to muster one to take out a mile long ISIS victory parade?

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The evidence is conclusive. Obama: the abject failure and is responsible for ISIS so now we have to own it.

-Geaux

In other words, we should have stayed there forever, because that is what it will take to keep those people from killing each other. They have been killing each other for a thousand years, but GW thought democracy would change all that. How wrong he was. Now you want to blame Obama for not leaving our troops there in perpetuity to be sent home in body bags a few hundred at a time. By all means, we should go back there to kill off ISIS, so that the next ISIS can step in as soon as we leave again.

I've got a better answer. If we really want to go to war, let's go over there and kill off every single Iraqi and take over Iraq. Then we can call it New America and we can start sending people there to rebuild it as another great American society. Who cares if we kill off 20 million or more Muslims. Most of you would prefer we just nuke the whole area anyway.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why ISIS is Americas Problem"

Nonsense, it's Iraq's problem – it's the responsibility of the government in Baghdad to defend the country.

And Iraq doesn't want conventional American ground forces to be involved, and appropriately so, if the Iraqi government is to have any legitimacy, if all the factions of Iraq are going to function as one nation, the Iraqi people alone must defend their country from the self-proclaimed 'Islamic state.'

The days of Americans fighting and dying pointlessly in the ME are thankfully over, the majority of Americans understand and accept this, which is way a republican Congress has made no effort to pass a resolution authorizing American ground forces be dispatched to Iraq, as is their Constitutional responsibility. Fortunately those on the war-mongering right – such as the OP and others who agree with him – are correctly perceived by the American people to be wrong.

 

[Toro]

I had That Dream Again Last Night....

Diogenes Middle Finger

Now, if that were Putin, he'd have his shirt off and would be rasslin' that bear!

 

[NYcarbineer]

None of this shit in the ME would be our problem if we'd stop making it our problem.

that's because they are making it our problem

See what I did there?

-Geaux

They're making it our problem because we insist on being there. Meddling.

 

[Mac1958]

When you invade and occupy a large swath of the planet, you can expect all kinds of lousy things to happen, such as people using your own weapons against you.

One of the many reasons it's not a good idea to invade and occupy a large swath of the planet. A planet, by the way, which we don't own.

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[Geaux4it]

Lets see, where do I begin? Some JV team from a desert somewhere we're told.




And just how did they arm themselves?

>
ISIS Is Taking Over Iraq Using Captured American Weapons

ISIS is marching through city after city in Iraq, and they are doing it with American weapons. Thanks to a series of stunning victories in recent months, ISIS has captured a vast array of U.S. military equipment including trucks, Humvees, rockets, artillery pieces and Stinger missiles.

ISIS Is Taking Over Iraq Using Captured American Weapons Washington s Blog

>

Now we have to reflect on why ISIS has become such a strength. Where did the void materialize for which ISIS quickly filled , like ants on a dropped piece of gum?

>
Panetta: Obama Wrong on Iraq Pullout, Failure to Arm Syrians

Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says his old boss, President Barack Obama, erred when he failed to leave a residual military force in Iraq – and when he didn't opt to arm the Free Syrian Army earlier.

"I really thought that it was important for us to maintain a presence in Iraq," Panetta said in an interview aired Sunday on CBS's "60 Minutes."

Panetta said he and Obama's other advisers thought that at least 8,000 U.S. troops should have stayed in Iraq. "And frankly, having those troops there I think would've given us greater leverage on [Prime Minister Nouri al-]Maliki to try to force him to do the right thing as well."

The Obama administration has insisted that al-Maliki would not make a "status of forces" agreement that U.S. troops would not be prosecuted by Iraq's government. Republican critics claim the real reason is that Obama wanted to fulfill his campaign promise to completely end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Panetta Obama Wrong on Iraq Pullout Failure to Arm Syrians

>
There's been this issue though that ISIS really wants us dead well... you know..... because well, we're not Muslim or more simply, we're Americans

>

The White House said Sunday that a review of an Islamic State video confirms that American hostage Peter Kassig, an aid worker and former Army Ranger, has been beheaded by the terror group.

New ISIS video shows beheading of American hostage Peter Kassig Fox News



>

And now we see the fall of Ramadi and only 60 miles away Baghdad looms



>
And then we have the parade. You know? We can send the Obama drone brigade to snuff out some douche in a cave out in nowhere land, yet we can't seem to muster one to take out a mile long ISIS victory parade?

>



The evidence is conclusive. Obama: the abject failure and is responsible for ISIS so now we have to own it.

-Geaux

In other words, we should have stayed there forever, because that is what it will take to keep those people from killing each other. They have been killing each other for a thousand years, but GW thought democracy would change all that. How wrong he was. Now you want to blame Obama for not leaving our troops there in perpetuity to be sent home in body bags a few hundred at a time. By all means, we should go back there to kill off ISIS, so that the next ISIS can step in as soon as we leave again.

I've got a better answer. If we really want to go to war, let's go over there and kill off every single Iraqi and take over Iraq. Then we can call it New America and we can start sending people there to rebuild it as another great American society. Who cares if we kill off 20 million or more Muslims. Most of you would prefer we just nuke the whole area anyway.

Actually, I wold have 'preferred' Obama to have never been given the opportunity to display such failure on a public scale. It's my understanding many of his previous supporters like Oprah in hindsight, feel the same.

In this case I must support our POTUS in the fight against ISIS. He screwed it up, now we need to do the right thing and bail him out.

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

None of this shit in the ME would be our problem if we'd stop making it our problem.

that's because they are making it our problem

See what I did there?

-Geaux

They're making it our problem because we insist on being there. Meddling.

No, they are making it our problem because we are NOT Muslim

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

When you invade and occupy a large swath of the planet, you can expect all kinds of lousy things to happen, such as people using your own weapons against you.

One of the many reasons it's not a good idea to invade and occupy a large swath of the planet. A planet, by the way, which we don't own.

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Or, a country Obama decided not to keep, thus ISIS

Good thing we didn't give up Japan and South Korea

-Geaux

 

[NYcarbineer]

None of this shit in the ME would be our problem if we'd stop making it our problem.

that's because they are making it our problem

See what I did there?

-Geaux

They're making it our problem because we insist on being there. Meddling.

No, they are making it our problem because we are NOT Muslim

-Geaux

That's one of the lies designed to induce us to keep meddling. You don't see the Chinese with a 100,000 troops in the ME every decade. Or Russia. Or any nation in South America, etc., etc.

We are the root cause of our ME problems.

 

[JoeB131]

Go over there and fight them.

Go over there and fight them.

Again.. can anyone answer one of my questions? Such as why Obama decided not to take out an over 1 mile ISIS victory parade in Ramadi?

-Geaux

You mean other than the probability that hundreds of civilians would be killed?

Okay, so your rant aside, I'm still trying to get you to tell me WHY ISIS is America's problem.

What does it have to do with us? It strikes me if the countries in the region such as Israel, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, all armed with a lot of military hardware we've provided them, don't see it as a big enough problem to do something about, it's really not our problem.

 

[Mac1958]

When you invade and occupy a large swath of the planet, you can expect all kinds of lousy things to happen, such as people using your own weapons against you.

One of the many reasons it's not a good idea to invade and occupy a large swath of the planet. A planet, by the way, which we don't own.

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Or, a country Obama decided not to keep, thus ISIS

Good thing we didn't give up Japan and South Korea

-Geaux

There's no way to know. Once we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam, the dominoes began to fall, since we essentially handed the region to Iran.

A few thousand American lives, limbs and minds later, a few trillion dollars later, here we are. The hornet's nest many of us warned against.

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