Why ISIS is Americas Problem

[JoeB131]

100% stupid as always! Reagan defeated communism, freed 2 billion, saved the world from nuclear annilihation. THe greatest man of the 20th Century.

Yeah. Let's look at that. Other than that time he almost started a nuclear war by saying "We begin bombing in five minutes" which put the Soviet Eastern Command on nuclear alert.

2 Billion people aren't "Free". First, the USSR and its satellites don't have 2 billion people in them.

second, a lot of them still aren't "Free". They just don't call themselves "communist" anymore. They certainly aren't democracies. a few of them have even put the communists back into power.

But the USSR broke up because of nothing Reagan did, so let's praise that. Forget about the Jihadists he armed that are still plaguing us today.

You are a retard, Special Ed.

100% stupid!! Hitler would have loved you as the perfect isolationist idiot. He could have taken over Europe and England while Japan took over Asia; then they both could have attacked the USA. Where were you when Hitler and Tojo needed you?

We didn't defeat Hitler, the Soviets did. They were also kind enough to convince the Japanese to surrender and we spent four years playing with ourselves over there.

 

[CowboyTed]

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An update of an old US Army joke, concerning the Italian Army in WWII

Under which administration were those soldiers meant to be trained...

Another screw up brought to you by the GOP.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[bedowin62]

oh look!! 2 America-hating left-wing losers on the board at once!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

2 Billion people aren't "Free". First, the USSR and its satellites don't have 2 billion people in them.
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always 100% stupid of course. Reagan freed 2 billion in USSR and Red China. He had the moral clarity to tell them to tear down the wall and adopt freedom and capitalism while liberals spied for them and idiot llibcommies like you supported Castro's concentration camp island.

A statue to former US president Ronald Reagan, who is highly respected in Poland for having helped hasten the fall of the Iron Curtain, was unveiled by Communist-era opposition icon Lech Walesa in Warsaw yesterday.




"Let us bow before Ronald Reagan for the fact that our generation was able to bring an end to the great divisions and conflicts of the world," Mr Walesa said in a ceremony in the heart of the Polish capital Warsaw.

"What happened seemed impossible or unthinkable. The older generations still remember," the Nobel Peace laureate said.

A handsome, stylized 'park bench' monument dedicated to Cold War victor Ronald Reagan was unveiled in the former Soviet republic of Georgia yesterday. The country's pro-Western, American-educated president Mikhail Saakashvili proclaimed that the work 'deserves a place in the heart of Tblisi' as he and his countrymen seek to honor Reaganfor 'destroying the Soviet empire'. He also took the opportunity to lament what he sees as Vladimir Putin's attempts torestore that lost empire.



Reagan ended the cold war and very possibly saved humanity from nuclear annihilation; 2 billion live under freedom today, who would be starving to death under the communism that Reagan understood and hated so much! The Democrats spied for Communism and wanted peaceful coexistence or detente because they lacked the IQ to understand what it really was! Without Reagan, Gorbechev would not have known what the alternative was! Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbechev, tear down this wall" HIs moral clarity, the Stinger missiles that he personally gave to Afghanistan, and Star Wars (the ABM system we still desperately need today) inspired the death of the USSR !!

On the domestic front Reagan also had moral clarity! He said, "isn't welfare a form of slavery" Then "welfare as we know it" was ended. Moreover, he and Newt got 34 States to sign a Balanced Budget Amendment that would have prevented all the domestic problems we face today because of Democratic fiscal irresponsibility. Moreover, if the Balanced Budget had been passed we would no longer be plagued by the Democratic Party as we know it! IF the Democrats could no longer subvert our democracy by buying votes with promises of ever expanding welfare programs they would instantly disappear!! Further: Reagan slashed taxes from a 70% top bracket in 1981 to 28% in 1986. That resulted in 20 million jobs being created between 1983 - 1989, a doubling of the amount of revenue going into government coffers, and a wave of prosperity that America rode from 1983 until 2001 with only a small pause at the end of the George Bush Sr.'s term.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

-- Ronald Reagan

"President Reagan's Radio Address to the Nation on Welfare Reform

February 15, 1986

My fellow Americans:

Today I'd like to speak to you about a gathering crisis in our society: It's a family crisis. To some it's hidden, concealed behind tenement walls or lost in the forgotten streets of our inner cities. But for millions of Americans, the crisis is ever present and growing, and it threatens to become a permanent scar on the American promise of hope and opportunity for all.

I'm talking about the crisis of family breakdowns, especially among the welfare poor, both black and white. In inner cities today, families, as we've always thought of them, are not even being formed. Since 1960 the percentage of babies born out of wedlock has more than doubled. And too often their mothers are only teenagers. They're children-many of them 15, 16, and 17 years old with all the responsibilities of grownups thrust upon them. The fathers of these children are often nowhere to be found. In some instances you have to go back three generations before you can find an intact family. It seems even the memory of families is in danger of becoming extinct. And what of the babies born out of wedlock, these children born to children. Statistically, we know that they're much more likely to have a low birth weight and, thus, serious health problems. We know that out-of-wedlock children often suffer abuse and neglect as well. And what sort of future can they look forward to?

The family is the most basic support system there is. For two centuries now, it's been families pulling together that has provided the courage, willpower, and sense of security that have enabled millions of Americans to escape poverty and grab hold of the rungs on the ladder of opportunity. How often have we heard about the immigrant father laboring long into the night to give his children the advantages he never had? How many self-made men and women in America of all ethnic backgrounds owe their success to the strength of character given them by hard-working, loving parents? But for the children of child mothers and absentee fathers, there is often only a deepening cycle of futility, hopelessness, and despair.

RIGHT HERE >>> We're in danger of creating a permanent culture of poverty as inescapable as any chain or bond; a second and separate America, an America of lost dreams and stunted lives. The irony is that misguided welfare programs instituted in the name of compassion have actually helped turn a shrinking problem into a national tragedy. From the 1950's on, poverty in America was declining. American society, an opportunity society, was doing its wonders. Economic growth was providing a ladder for millions to climb up out of poverty and into prosperity. In 1964 the famous War on Poverty was declared and a funny thing happened. Poverty, as measured by dependency, stopped shrinking and then actually began to grow worse. I guess you could say, poverty won the war. Poverty won in part because instead of helping the poor, government programs ruptured the bonds holding poor families together.

Perhaps the most insidious effect of welfare is its usurpation of the role of provider. In States where payments are highest, for instance, public assistance for a single mother can amount to much more than the usable income of a minimum wage job. In other words, it can pay for her to quit work. Many families are eligible for substantially higher benefits when the father is not present. What must it do to a man to know that his own children will be better off if he is never legally recognized as their father? Under existing welfare rules, a teenage girl who becomes pregnant can make herself eligible for welfare benefits that will set her up in an apartment of her own, provide medical care, and feed and clothe her. She only has to fulfill one condition-not marry or identify the father.

Obviously something is desperately wrong with our welfare system. With only about half of what is now spent on welfare, we could give enough money to every impoverished man, woman, and child to lift them above the poverty line. Instead, we spend vast amounts on a system that perpetuates poverty. But the waste of money pales before the sinful waste of human potential-the squandering of so many millions of hopes and dreams.

In my State of the Union Address, I directed our administration to study the welfare system with a keen eye to making reforms. We already have in place a low-income assistance working group, which is hard at its task. In addition, I've instructed Attorney General Edwin Meese, as Chairman pro tern of our Domestic Policy Council, to convene a working group to evaluate the effect of a wide range of government programs on American families, especially poor families. These groups will report back to me by December 1st. The welfare tragedy has gone on too long. It's time to reshape our welfare system so that it can be judged by how many Americans it makes independent of welfare.

Until next week, thanks for listening. God bless you

Ronald Reagan Radio Address to the Nation on Welfare Reform

 

[JoeB131]

always 100% stupid of course. Reagan freed 2 billion in USSR and Red China. He had the moral clarity to tell them to tear down the wall and adopt freedom and capitalism while liberals spied for them and idiot llibcommies like you supported Castro's concentration camp island.

Special Ed, so Reagan "Freed" red China by shipping them all our jobs? Is this what you are claiming?

Except they still are "Communist", they still don't have any freedom, they still lock up dissidents, they still force women to have abortions if they exceed their quota on how many babies they have, they still oppress Christians and Fulan Gong members.

Hey, guy, "Freedom" is not defined as "Big Corporations can totally exploit the fuck out of you". I realize that's why you think you are "Free", but it isn't.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Except they still are "Communist",.

Here are some books written by experts. Feel stupid and liberal yet??


"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis

 

[NotfooledbyW]

. Again.. can anyone answer one of my questions? Such as why Obama decided not to take out an over 1 mile ISIS victory parade in Ramadi? -Geaux

. That's easy;

Shocking: Images found on Islamic State's various social media channels show tiny children celebrating alongside the militants in Ramadi. The extremists are known to groom boys to become suicide bombers.

Prepare for the Battle of Baghdad ISIS hold victory parade after taking key city of Ramadi just 60 miles from capital in an orgy of violence and beheadings Daily Mail Online

Can any of you RW's explain why ISIS is not Iraq and Iran's problem?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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Can any of you RW's explain why ISIS is not Iraq and Iran's problem?

because they want to behead us all while we are alive. Is that simple enough for you to understand?

 

[JoeB131]

Except they still are "Communist",.

Here are some books written by experts. Feel stupid and liberal yet??


"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"

They can write whatever crap they want.

I'm still trying to get you to explain to me how a country that shoots religious dissidents, harvests people for transplant organs and forces women to have abortions against their will is "Free" in any way...

 

[JoeB131]

because they want to behead us all while we are alive. Is that simple enough for you to understand?

I want to have a million dollars and have wild sex with Lucy Liu.

The unlikely chance of those things happening are greater than ISIS beheading us all.

(Just kidding, Lucy, I totally respect you as an actress.)

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I want to have a million dollars and have wild sex with Lucy Liu.

100% stupid of course since ISIS has already beheaded and shot Americans, is very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions, and is being tracked in every state in the US.

See we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?? This is a treasonous liberal who also defends Castro concentration camp island

 

[NotfooledbyW]

EdBaia 11961537

because they want to behead us all while we are alive. Is that simple enough for you to understand?

And you are afraid that what they want to do - they can actually do. Unless you feel like hanging out in iSIS controlled Iraq or Syria you have infitesimally small odds of being beheaded by anybody. It's Iraq and Iran's problem as their Shiite religion is being targeted but when asked to help with airstrikes and training in a non-combat role the U.S. Military should be engaged in that role. Daesh is not our problem and specifically not because people like you are afraid of them. They want you to fear them. Why give it to them.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

EdBaia 11961781

100% stupid of course since ISIS has already beheaded and shot Americans, is very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions, and is being tracked in every state in the US.

What do you propose to do about the Americans that were killed by daesh terrorist scum in Syria? After al Qaeda killed 3000 innocent people on American soil under Bush and Cheney's watch, were you as convinced at that time that al Qaeda was capable of a bio-weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions of Americans on US soil? Did you think al Qaeda was being 'tracked' in every state? That was fourteen years ago. And do you know if the daesh terrorist scum that are being tracked in every state are the ones that are 'very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions of us in the good ole USA?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

After al Qaeda killed 3000 innocent people on American soil under Bush and Cheney's watch, were you as convinced at that time that al Qaeda was capable of a bio-weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions of Americans on US soil?

too stupid!! Of course not!! ISIS is 1000 times bigger than Al Qaeda.

Do you understand??

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Debunking the claim that a war to confiscate WMD was won when there were no WMD in the invaded nation.

EdBaia 11462163 page 7

Dear, Bush won the war, and Obama lost it by pulling out too soon. He learned the lesson and is not pulling out of Afghanistan the same way.

How did Bush win a war that was a war of aggression decided solely by him in order to locate 'the most lethal weapons ever devised' that he said were being hidden from over 200 UN inspectors on the ground, peacefully in Iraq, during March 2003? When the reason for starting a war turned out to be false, untrue and non-existent, there can be no win for that war. It was lost when the ISG admitted to the world that Bush and Blair were wrong - deadly and costly wrong not only for American and British troops that were wounded and killed ,but for Iraqis that had their lives families and property destroy fully as a result of that March 17 2003 by none other than George W. Bush.

Explain what was 'won' at the end of 2008.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

11962266 page 23 post 234

Of course not!! ISIS is 1000 times bigger than Al Qaeda.

A thousand times bigger in what way? Is it numbers of idiotic suicidal killers that are 10,000 times more exposed to US air power than al Qaeda ever was? You were talking about daesh killing Americans on US territory and the massive 2001 attack on US soil that killed Americans working in the Pentagon.. You have claimed that ISIS:

11961781 page 24 post 231

... is very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions, and is being tracked in every state in the US

You said that ISIS is very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions of Americans. Your use of "is" means that the capability to kill millions in America exists right now. What is your source for that? Where and how are they building their bio-weapons and nerve gas arsenal capable of killing millions of Americans?. I score Al Qaeda more deadly than ISIS against Americans and guests on US soil 3000 times more deadly than ISIS. That is based on actual reality. But that massacre was on Bush's watch so I understand your need to deny the significance of that and magically enhance ISIS to a level of terror that exists only in your own mind.

So you need to start producing backup for your preposterous exaggerated fear mongering in which you are currently engaged.

 

[Contumacious]

Hey, you know what else was stupid? Arming Bin Laden to start with. WHich is what Reagan did.
That was stupid.

100% stupid as always! Reagan defeated communism, freed 2 billion, saved the world from nuclear annilihation. THe greatest man of the 20th Century.

REAGAN DEFEATED COMMUNISM....REALLY?

HAVE YOU ASKED THIS DUDE?

COMRADE BERNARD SANDERS (SOCIALIST-VERMONT)

 

[NotfooledbyW]

EdBaia 11462163 page 7

Dear, Bush won the war, and Obama lost it by pulling out too soon.

Bush failed to negotiate a long term deal in Iraq in 2008.The Iraqis understood it to mean that all US troops would be gone by the end of 2011. Bush's negotiating failure was to limit 'immunity' to only three years. Obama negotiated a long tern deal through 2014 in Afghanistan long before the rise and assault by ISIS into Iraq. That is a negotiated deal hat is seven years longer than what Bush could manage to get.





By Chris Carroll
Stars and Stripes
Published: October 7, 2011

WASHINGTON — Iraq and the United States remain at loggerheads over whether any U.S. troops who stay there next year will be subject to local laws — and potentially to politically motivated prosecutions — but experts predict it won’t ultimately derail security cooperation between the countries.


Look at what Lean Panetta said In 2011 when negotiations on the SOFA and immunity were going on.

After months of preparations on both sides for a complete pullout by Dec. 31 of more than 40,000 remaining U.S. troops, the Iraqi government said in recent days that several thousand could stay on as military trainers. The condition, however, is that they lose the legal immunity they now enjoy. It is, an Iraqi government spokesman said this week, the primary dispute preventing an agreement.

On Thursday at a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta shot back, saying U.S. troops would not remain in Iraq if they were to be subject to the Iraqi criminal justice system.

“I can say very clearly that any kind of U.S. presence demands that we protect and provide the appropriate immunity for our soldiers,” he said.

There are overwhelming practical reasons to demand that, said Anthony Cordesman, an expert on national security and intelligence with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

 

[JoeB131]

100% stupid of course since ISIS has already beheaded and shot Americans, is very capable of a bio weapons or nerve gas attack that could kill millions, and is being tracked in every state in the US.

They've beheaded Americans who were stupid enough to go into THEIR TERRITORY!!!!

One guy who got beheaded was captured once, his family ransomed him, and then he went in again. That guy was all manner of stupid.

Your argument was that they want to "behead us all". Not that they "might behead the one guy dumb enough to go into their active war zone", because that really isn't my problem. any more than it's my problem if a guy at the Zoo climbs into the Lion's cage and the lion eats his ass.

And your arguments about biological weapons and nerve gas are about one step out of a comic book.

So again- why is this OUR problem?

 

[JoeB131]

too stupid!! Of course not!! ISIS is 1000 times bigger than Al Qaeda.

Do you understand??

No it isn't.

ISIS has probably less than 30,000 active fighters and is limited to Syria and Iraq. Al Qaeda at its height had hundreds of thousands of members in dozens of countries. It still is estimated to have 27,000 members.

What makes ISIS formidable is that the Sunni Militias in Iraq are willing to work with them, for now, against the Shi'ite government in Baghdad and Damascus and their Iranians backers.

So- again - not our problem. But if you think it is, there's a simple enough solution. Lift the arms embargo on Iran and give them carte blanche to deal with the problem.