Why is our national debt so high?

[saveliberty]

Medicare, Medicaid and social security come to mind.

Military expenditure should be cut by a third atleast

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

So explain how you're going to save government spending, because that was your premise.

 

[g5000]

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

I doubt it.

So you are in favor of eliminating all tax exemptions, deductions, and credits so we can lower tax rates on everyone and balance the budget?

I am.

Then why are you blaming poor people like some kind of ignorant hick?

I don't blame poor people. I blame the government for social spending being too high.

If you were truly pissed at too much spending, you would be spending your rants on tax expenditures.

Instead, you come across like an ignorant, racist hick.

 

[jc456]

It's time to end the welfare state.

Shoutout to RealDave

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

I doubt it.

So you are in favor of eliminating all tax exemptions, deductions, and credits so we can lower tax rates on everyone and balance the budget?

you're not?

 

[saveliberty]

If I ran for Congress, I'd just be honest and tell voters look, I am going to do what I think is best when I get there. Most of you have no concept of accounting, budgeting or the Constitution, so I am not wasting time listening to you.

 

[jc456]

It's time to end the welfare state.

Shoutout to RealDave

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

 

[g5000]

It's time to end the welfare state.

Shoutout to RealDave

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

I want ALL of them eliminated, retard.

All $1.4 trillion of them.

Then we would have a SURPLUS which we could use to cut taxes and pay down the debt.

We would finally have a level playing field for all taxpayers.

And we would serendipitously have campaign finance reform since special interests would not be able to bribe the American Politboro to put tax expenditures in the tax code to tilt the playing field in their favor.

 

[jc456]

Medicare, Medicaid and social security come to mind.

Military expenditure should be cut by a third atleast

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

So explain how you're going to save government spending, because that was your premise.

he stated, because we pay into them. that is a separate tax. you should look at your pay stub. It says federal tax, medicare tax, and FICA social security tax. each it's own. the balanced budget would come from the federal tax line. or do you believe it's ok to raid the other two tax buckets to help poor people? Why don't they let us say where our tax dollars actually go? defense spending, school spending, welfare spending, etc.....

 

[saveliberty]

Want a simple one? No amendments to bills which pork barrel districts.

 

[radical right]

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

Social security has a $2.6 Trillion dollar surplus.

 

[jc456]

It's time to end the welfare state.

Shoutout to RealDave

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

I want ALL of them eliminated, retard.

All $1.4 trillion of them.

Then we would have a SURPLUS which we could use to cut taxes and pay down the debt.

We would finally have a level playing field for all taxpayers.

And we would serendipitously have campaign finance reform since special interests would not be able to bribe the American Politboro to put tax expenditures in the tax code to tilt the playing field in their favor.

I'm fine with that. why wouldn't I be? I'd take the money I pay into it and pay it into my own fking account. why do you believe that government can spend my money better than me? I have a retirement account. WTF. only losers don't save. And let's make all spending voluntary and I get to designate where my money goes then. i.e., to military, school, welfare, etc

 

[saveliberty]

Medicare, Medicaid and social security come to mind.

Military expenditure should be cut by a third atleast

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

So explain how you're going to save government spending, because that was your premise.

he stated, because we pay into them. that is a separate tax. you should look at your pay stub. It says federal tax, medicare tax, and FICA social security tax. each it's own. the balanced budget would come from the federal tax line. or do you believe it's ok to raid the other two tax buckets to help poor people?

No I said we pay into them. Reducing government spending was the stated goal by the OP. Fully funding SS or Medicare requires government to spend more to bring them into balance, it saves nothing. No I do not think raiding either fund is justified or legal. The OP needs to come up with savings. Perhaps Foreign Aid could be discussed?

 

[jc456]

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

Social security has a $2.6 Trillion dollar surplus.

and what's your point? it's money already spoken for. the people that paid into it.

 

[jc456]

Medicare, Medicaid and social security come to mind.

Military expenditure should be cut by a third atleast

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

So explain how you're going to save government spending, because that was your premise.

he stated, because we pay into them. that is a separate tax. you should look at your pay stub. It says federal tax, medicare tax, and FICA social security tax. each it's own. the balanced budget would come from the federal tax line. or do you believe it's ok to raid the other two tax buckets to help poor people?

No I said we pay into them. Reducing government spending was the stated goal by the OP. Fully funding SS or Medicare requires government to spend more to bring them into balance, it saves nothing. No I do not think raiding either fund is justified or legal. The OP needs to come up with savings. Perhaps Foreign Aid could be discussed?

I'm sorry, you lost me. what do you mean by fully funding SS or Medicare?

 

[saveliberty]

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

Social security has a $2.6 Trillion dollar surplus.

Summary: Actuarial Status of the Social Security Trust Funds, July 2017

You confuse reserves with surplus.

 

[radical right]

They're not fully funded.

Social security has a $2.6 Trillion dollar surplus.

and what's your point? it's money already spoken for. the people that paid into it.

A multi-trillion dollar surplus means social security is fully funded.

 

[saveliberty]

You realize that Medicare and Social Security are not government expenditures? It comes out of your paycheck and the company you work for.

They're not fully funded.

So explain how you're going to save government spending, because that was your premise.

he stated, because we pay into them. that is a separate tax. you should look at your pay stub. It says federal tax, medicare tax, and FICA social security tax. each it's own. the balanced budget would come from the federal tax line. or do you believe it's ok to raid the other two tax buckets to help poor people?

No I said we pay into them. Reducing government spending was the stated goal by the OP. Fully funding SS or Medicare requires government to spend more to bring them into balance, it saves nothing. No I do not think raiding either fund is justified or legal. The OP needs to come up with savings. Perhaps Foreign Aid could be discussed?

I'm sorry, you lost me. what do you mean by fully funding SS or Medicare?

Returning monies spent in other uses to the correct fund.

 

[g5000]

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

I want ALL of them eliminated, retard.

All $1.4 trillion of them.

Then we would have a SURPLUS which we could use to cut taxes and pay down the debt.

We would finally have a level playing field for all taxpayers.

And we would serendipitously have campaign finance reform since special interests would not be able to bribe the American Politboro to put tax expenditures in the tax code to tilt the playing field in their favor.

I'm fine with that. why wouldn't I be? I'd take the money I pay into it and pay it into my own fking account. why do you believe that government can spend my money better than me? I have a retirement account. WTF. only losers don't save. And let's make all spending voluntary and I get to designate where my money goes then. i.e., to military, school, welfare, etc

Please explain how your retard wiring works so I can understand how you think me wanting to ban all tax expenditures means I think the government can spend your money better than you.

This should be fucking fascinating.

 

[saveliberty]

They're not fully funded.

Social security has a $2.6 Trillion dollar surplus.

and what's your point? it's money already spoken for. the people that paid into it.

A multi-trillion dollar surplus means social security is fully funded.

If that were true we would not run out of funds in 2034.

 

[jc456]

It's time to end the welfare state.

Shoutout to RealDave

Our national debt is so high because of the annual $1.4 trillion in government gifts to you in the form of tax expenditures, which I have no doubt you would scream like a welfare queen if anyone threatened to take them away.

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

I want ALL of them eliminated, retard.

All $1.4 trillion of them.

Then we would have a SURPLUS which we could use to cut taxes and pay down the debt.

We would finally have a level playing field for all taxpayers.

And we would serendipitously have campaign finance reform since special interests would not be able to bribe the American Politboro to put tax expenditures in the tax code to tilt the playing field in their favor.

Social Security by the way doesn't go toward paying down the debt, you know this right?

 

[jc456]

such as? why didn't you explain what? are you afraid you'd be wrong? hahahahahaahaha

What part do you not understand, tard? I spoke very plainly.

you did no such thing. you did not state one tax expenditure. sorry fella.

I want ALL of them eliminated, retard.

All $1.4 trillion of them.

Then we would have a SURPLUS which we could use to cut taxes and pay down the debt.

We would finally have a level playing field for all taxpayers.

And we would serendipitously have campaign finance reform since special interests would not be able to bribe the American Politboro to put tax expenditures in the tax code to tilt the playing field in their favor.

I'm fine with that. why wouldn't I be? I'd take the money I pay into it and pay it into my own fking account. why do you believe that government can spend my money better than me? I have a retirement account. WTF. only losers don't save. And let's make all spending voluntary and I get to designate where my money goes then. i.e., to military, school, welfare, etc

Please explain how your retard wiring works so I can understand how you think me wanting to ban all tax expenditures means I think the government can spend your money better than you.

This should be fucking fascinating.

if you have no expenditures, then you don't need my money. I mean it's what you just said.