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Thats a good way of looking at it but I draw the line when someone professes a hatred of my race. He was equally racist towards his fellow darker Indians as well.Sounds like she didnt know that Gandhi was a racist as well.What are you talking about?Most white people, far from hating Malcolm X, would more likely say, Malcolm who? Aside from him proclaiming Obama to be the Messiah, most don't really care who he is.
Brother Minister Malcolm X was assassinated in cold blood in 1965 by some government implants.
Reminds me a personal anecdote. In 1991, I was in a pub in Seoul South Korea having a lovely conversation with an African American flight attendant from United. Ultimately, I felt we were doing well and the conversation turned to Malcolm X. The girl, said...
"Malcolm X was all about violence until he traveled to India to meet with Gandhi."
At that point, my desire to chat the girl up was overcome by my desire to put the record straight, so I informed her that Malcolm X was 23-years-old and in prison when Gandhi was assassinated. They never met.
She wouldn't talk to me after that. Damn it! Never mix politics and flirtation.
Most of those to whom we look up to for wisdom and guidance are flawed in some way or another. It's part of the human condition.
I hope most people will take the good and dismiss the bad as a was of salvaging what we can from human failures.
Cite the "race hatred" that Brother Minister Malcolm X spewed.So, in a nutshell, you sum up all the very reasons you deny why cops single you out and people shun you. Thanks for at least admitting as much. BTW, wasn't Malcolm X eventually shot and killed for his constant spewing of race hatred?
Thats a good way of looking at it but I draw the line when someone professes a hatred of my race. He was equally racist towards his fellow darker Indians as well.Sounds like she didnt know that Gandhi was a racist as well.What are you talking about?Most white people, far from hating Malcolm X, would more likely say, Malcolm who? Aside from him proclaiming Obama to be the Messiah, most don't really care who he is.
Brother Minister Malcolm X was assassinated in cold blood in 1965 by some government implants.
Reminds me a personal anecdote. In 1991, I was in a pub in Seoul South Korea having a lovely conversation with an African American flight attendant from United. Ultimately, I felt we were doing well and the conversation turned to Malcolm X. The girl, said...
"Malcolm X was all about violence until he traveled to India to meet with Gandhi."
At that point, my desire to chat the girl up was overcome by my desire to put the record straight, so I informed her that Malcolm X was 23-years-old and in prison when Gandhi was assassinated. They never met.
She wouldn't talk to me after that. Damn it! Never mix politics and flirtation.
Most of those to whom we look up to for wisdom and guidance are flawed in some way or another. It's part of the human condition.
I hope most people will take the good and dismiss the bad as a was of salvaging what we can from human failures.
For one thing, he uses language that racists or collectivists use, instead of viewing people as individuals, viewing them solely as members of a group. "White men this" "white men that". Also, in most of the quotes I have seen of his, I can tangibly feel his bitterness, anger, and "us against them" attitude in regard to whites. Even if it is not explicitly stated in his words. If that was in reverse, you would call it racism, or at the very least bigotry.Cite some examples of Brother Minister Malcolm X expressing hate.I don't hate him, I simply disagree with his approach... at least what I know about it. I can't stand racism, but you do not fight hate with more hate. That just creates more animosity, division, etc. I agree with what MLK said… You have to fight hate with love. That is the biblical (true) way, and the only way that actually works.
It's a shame that so many here agree with the negative, divisive (and in most cases, racist) approach. That is why the ugly cycle of racism and hate continues. It will never end if you adhere to that wrong approach.
he later wrote, Little was the name that "the white slavemaster ... had imposed upon [his] paternal forebears"
I can't think of a more libertarian sentiment than that. It could have been penned by Ms. Rand herself.
For one thing, he uses language that racists or collectivists use, instead of viewing people as individuals, viewing them solely as members of a group. "White men this" "white men that". Also, in most of the quotes I have seen of his, I can tangibly feel his bitterness, anger, and "us against them" attitude in regard to whites. Even if it is not explicitly stated in his words. If that was in reverse, you would call it racism, or at the very least bigotry.Cite some examples of Brother Minister Malcolm X expressing hate.I don't hate him, I simply disagree with his approach... at least what I know about it. I can't stand racism, but you do not fight hate with more hate. That just creates more animosity, division, etc. I agree with what MLK said… You have to fight hate with love. That is the biblical (true) way, and the only way that actually works.
It's a shame that so many here agree with the negative, divisive (and in most cases, racist) approach. That is why the ugly cycle of racism and hate continues. It will never end if you adhere to that wrong approach.
I can't think of a more libertarian sentiment than that. It could have been penned by Ms. Rand herself.
She contributed tremendously, but she didn't really like libertarians.
he later wrote, Little was the name that "the white slavemaster ... had imposed upon [his] paternal forebears"
That is true. It wasn't a name his family chose for themselves.
He also said,
"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don't believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn't want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn't know how to return the treatment."
I can't think of a more libertarian sentiment than that. It could have been penned by Ms. Rand herself.
What is it that he did that brings out the hatred of white people so?
He didn't kill anyone, he didn't steal from anyone, he didn't commit any crimes, in his life that he's known for as a Minister and thought-leader of his time.
All he did was speak the raw, unadulterated and unfiltered truth about the state of affairs in this country.
I suppose that's why so many whites couldn't stand him.
The truth shouldn't be an offense.
he later wrote, Little was the name that "the white slavemaster ... had imposed upon [his] paternal forebears"
That is true. It wasn't a name his family chose for themselves.
He also said,
"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don't believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn't want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I'm not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn't know how to return the treatment."
I can't think of a more libertarian sentiment than that. It could have been penned by Ms. Rand herself.
Its a great thought on the surface of it all, just don't examine it too closely, now if only more followers of Malcolm and MLK Jr. actually believed and practiced it too. Or maybe they do. When you believe no one but other blacks want brotherhood with you, when you believe no one but other blacks treat you right, then its real easy to say you believe in brotherhood of all men, that you believe in treating people right, all the while rationalizing alienation and hatred of millions and the mistreatment and contempt of many. You either believe in true brotherhood and fairness to all or you don't. Adding conditions is just a bullshit excuse.
I think you nailed it.
She didn't like Libertarians ... the political party.
Because, ultimately, Objectivism and party politics are incompatible.
She didn't like Libertarians ... the political party.
Because, ultimately, Objectivism and party politics are incompatible.
The irony of Atlas was all of the reviewers tore her up. She sold millions of them just off word of mouth alone.
I agree about the party.
Yeah, I know. I'm one of those who listened to him in person. It was 1962 IIRC and it was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard, so don't even begin to presume to tell me what I can and can't interpret from what he said you arrogant prick.
Yeah, I know. I'm one of those who listened to him in person. It was 1962 IIRC and it was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard, so don't even begin to presume to tell me what I can and can't interpret from what he said you arrogant prick.
Dang. Old timer, huh. Resectfully speaking.
We don't really hear too many first hand accounts these days.
What is it that he did that brings out the hatred of white people so?
He didn't kill anyone, he didn't steal from anyone, he didn't commit any crimes, in his life that he's known for as a Minister and thought-leader of his time.
All he did was speak the raw, unadulterated and unfiltered truth about the state of affairs in this country.
I suppose that's why so many whites couldn't stand him.
The truth shouldn't be an offense.
I think most hated (those people are now mostly dead) because they didn't understand his message. The problem is, neither do most of the blacks. Personally, I think he was one of the most extraordinary people of his generation. A true tragedy when he was murdered.
Please stop thinking you can tell us what we know. Most blacks understand what Malcolm stood for fully. We know exactly what he stood for, we don't make shit up to make X into some hybrid white conservative lie. A lot of people are alive who heard Malcolm X and his speeches can be heard on YouTube so your excuse of people being mostly dead when the information is available and people still hate him just doesn't cut t.
Yeah, I know. I'm one of those who listened to him in person. It was 1962 IIRC and it was one of the most powerful speeches I have ever heard, so don't even begin to presume to tell me what I can and can't interpret from what he said you arrogant prick.
I can, did and will. You are telling me, a black mam who was alive during the time and heard X speak, that blacks don't understand him coming from your white mans point of view. That's arrogance pal. So yes, I can say what I did.
No, I am saying that I, a white man who listened to him speak in Los Angeles, has every bit as much "right" to speak about him as you do.
[You're gonna have to provide some examples of this hate you say was coming from Brother Minister Malcolm X.
This OP was years coming, you're gonna have to back that stuff up.
Cite the "race hatred" that Brother Minister Malcolm X spewed.So, in a nutshell, you sum up all the very reasons you deny why cops single you out and people shun you. Thanks for at least admitting as much. BTW, wasn't Malcolm X eventually shot and killed for his constant spewing of race hatred?until he finally came to his senses and disavowed the nation of Islam and other tools of racism and racial hatred. Too late for him. He eventually got the right idea that people are more alike for what they share in common, rather than the pinheaded notions like fools like Aciapias who live in polarity seeking to divide himself from others for any superficiality he can find different.
- a man who indicted white America in the harshest terms
- he went to prison for larceny and breaking and entering
- he later wrote, Little was the name that "the white slavemaster ... had imposed upon [his] paternal forebears"
- promoted black supremacy, advocated the separation of black and white Americans, and rejected the civil rights movement for its emphasis on integration