Why did the holocaust occur?

Sunni Man said:
DiveCon said:
manu1959 said:
i have another question.....if this never happened why did the nazis create records that show that it did.....
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well, clearly the ZOG forced them to lie and claim they killed millions
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That is 100% correct!!!!
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really what did the jews have on the germans to trick them into rounding them up and putting them in these club med work camps and or deporting them to far off lands.....

or did the germans fake the camps as well.....and when the allied forces showed up in the camps where did all the skinny and dead people come from....or was that all faked as well....
 
Yukon said:
The Germans simply forced Jewish people to work in work-camps and they were paid. The fact is that the Jews couldnt do a "good-days-work" and as a result many of them died. To state that the Germans exterminated them is not true. They died from hard-work.
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Imbecile.
 
Sunni Man said:
Xenophon said:
Sunni Man said:
Actually, he is right.

The Germans did issue "concentration camp money" to the prisoners.

Auschwitz and the holocaust

There is a sample of them on this site.
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Bigger imbecile.
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Google "concentration camp money" and you will see plenty of sites with examples of the money given to inmates for purchases within the camp.

The Holocaust myth is starting to fall apart!!!
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why were the jews in the camps...
 
Despite the fact that the tens of thousands of prisoners who survived Auschwitz were witnesses to the crimes committed there; despite the fact that they left behind thousands of depositions, accounts, and memoirs; despite the fact that considerable quantities of documents, photographs, and material objects remain from the camp—despite all of this, there are people and organizations who deny that hundreds of thousands of people were murdered in this camp, that gas chambers operated there, or that the crematoria could burn several thousand corpses per day. In other words, they deny that Auschwitz was the scene of genocide.

Auschwitz is, in many ways, the main target of attacks by deniers, yet the denial of genocide, the existence of the gas chambers, and mass murder nevertheless extends to all the camps, the death camps, and, generally, the mass killing of the Jews.

The scale of this phenomena and its social harmfulness have been acknowledged in many countries as a threat to the social order and made punishable under the law. The legal procedures launched every so often against the deniers prove that the problem is real. It a problem not only for public prosecutors, but also a challenge for historians and educational institutions.

There is nothing new about denial of the crime of genocide or silence about genocide. From the beginning of the war, mainly for political reasons, the Nazis themselves did everything they could to keep international public opinion, and above all the Allied and neutral countries, but also the potential victims, in the dark about the extermination of people in the occupied countries.

Among themselves, however, the narrow circle of the Nazi ruling elite did not conceal these criminal acts.

Addressing high ranking officers in Poznań on October 4, 1943, Himmler, the head of the German police and the SS, said that “Most of you here know what it means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when 500 lie there. . .. This is an honor roll in our history which has never been and never will be put in writing” (IMT translation).

What did the Nazis do to conceal the crime they had committed? What did they do so that this “honor roll in our history”—or roll of shame—would never be put in writing?

First: they limited the written record of their crime to a minimum;

Second: they falsified the record, to the degree that technical and organizations made its existence necessary;

Third: they destroyed the superfluous and the most incriminating part of the record, once it had served its purpose, in the final phase of the Third Reich. They destroyed not only documents. They also destroyed the mass killing apparatus and liquidated the witnesses.


Holocaust and genocide denial after the war

The process of covering up and denying the crime of genocide, which began during the war, continued afterwards and is still going on today.

The apologists of Nazism have taken on this role for ideological, political, and commercial reasons. There is no need to add that the people who deny German crimes state that their only motivation is the desire for historical truth, and that they are defending the honor of the German people—thereby equating the war criminals with the German people.

Those who attempt to attribute patriotic motives to the collaborators with the German war criminals, while negating the crimes committed by these collaborators and portraying them in an honorable light, are acting in a similar way.

In its ideological aspect, the denial of the Holocaust of the Jews is a symptom of the continuing viability of antisemitism in some segments of society. This denial takes various forms: from literature, through the mass media, to films and art. The literature that denies the Holocaust and genocide sometimes takes the form of pseudo-scientific studies furnished with scholarly apparatus in the form of footnotes, extensive bibliographies, and indexes, intended to create an impression of credibility and full objectivity. More frequently, however, these are essays dripping with irony, sarcasm, and mockery. This kind of denial arises out of a certain world-view based on prejudices, xenophobia, and nationalism. People with such attitudes deny the Holocaust and genocide because these facts can serve as sources of spiritual and political empathy with the Jews—even though the deniers themselves know that the Holocaust took place and, what is more, approve of the Holocaust because they regard it as justified by the “guilt” of the Jews.

In its political aspect, Holocaust denial aims at rehabilitating fascism and autocracy as real alternatives to democracy. The apologists for fascism and autocracy (especially in the totalitarian version, where it dominates all aspects of public and private life) are aware that they will never have any chance of gaining public support as long as people associate fascism and autocracy with the Holocaust.

Because they regard the continuing presence of antisemitism as a source of support for their efforts, the deniers often take great pains to ignore all the other cases of genocide that affected non-Jews—such as, for instance, the tens of thousands of Germans murdered in the gas chambers as part of the so-called euthanasia campaign.

Finally, there is a third motivation for Holocaust denial: the commercial one. The producers and distributors of denial books, leaflets, and video and audio material make very good money from their trade. Part of the profit comes from sales, and part comes from donations from sources that may be overt, but are often anonymous.

The denial of the Holocaust and genocide take many forms, from simply ignoring obvious facts by manipulating the sources, through minimizing the dimensions of genocide, to trivializing and rationalizing genocide by analogy and claiming that it is an acceptable example of the kinds of things that happen in wartime.

The deniers of the Holocaust and genocide attack three facts in particular:

the existence of the gas chambers
the capacity of the crematoria in the camps, which far exceeded the natural death rate
the enormous scale of the crime.
According to Professor Yisrael Gutman of the Yad Vashem Memorial Institute in Israel, the use of the term “Polish concentration camps” is a form of Holocaust denial. It is a conscious or unconscious way of changing victims into perpetrators and an attempt to blur the question of responsibility for the crime.

The aim of denying the existence of the gas chambers is, first, to negate the mass scale of the crime of genocide. The second aim is to make it easier to contend that people have always been killed on a greater or lesser scale throughout history, and that the things that the Nazis did during the Second World War were hardly exceptional, but rather examples of the kind of repression that always occurs during war.

The prime evidence for the deniers’ contention that there were no gas chambers in Auschwitz used to be an account by one of the Auschwitz guards, Sonderführer Thies Christophersen (transcribed in the presence of attorney Manfred Röder). Published in the form of a brochure titled Auschwitz Lüge (Auschwitz Is a Lie) in 1973, Christophersen’s assertions became a “classic” of neo-Nazi propaganda. The SS man stated categorically that, as an eyewitness in Auschwitz, he never saw any gas chambers there. Christophersen also claimed that reports of cruelty in the camp were a lie, and that those who opposed Hitler during the war were traitors. Auschwitz, he asserted, was no death camp, but instead an ordinary industrial plant where “internees” were treated according to the regulations, and gas chambers the product of diseased imagination.

Since the end of the 1980s, genocide deniers have been appealing to more “objective” proofs, namely the results of chemical analysis of plaster samples taken from the walls of the gas chambers. Teams of pseudo-experts posing as tourists clandestinely gouge chunks of plaster from the walls of the gas chambers and later submit them to chemical analysis for the presence of hydrogen cyanide compounds. The quantity of these compounds is always, of course, too small to state that people were killed in the gas chambers. What is more, the deniers regard these analyses as clear proof that no one was killed by gas there.

The best known “expert analysis” of this variety is the so-called “Leuchter Report,” issued by an American manufacturer of execution equipment and proclaimed by the deniers in 1988 as a revelation on an international scale and a watershed in perceptions of Auschwitz. Leuchter states that there were far fewer compounds of hydrogen cyanide in the walls of the gas chambers at Auschwitz than in the walls of the disinfection chambers, and concludes that Zyklon B was not used to kill people, but rather, only sporadically, for disinfection.

In fact, the causes of these discrepancies include the different time periods for exposure to hydrogen cyanide in the disinfection chambers and the gas chambers. The gas was used to kill people in the gas chambers for half an hour a day, while the duration of disinfection in the disinfection chambers was, in line with the standard procedure, 24 hours—that is, 48 times as long.

Furthermore, the disinfection chambers are located inside buildings that are still intact, while the walls of the Birkenau gas chambers are in ruin and have been exposed constantly to the weather, which dilutes the concentration of the compounds of hydrogen cyanide.

The “Leuchter Report” contains a range of other mendacious assertions and speculation intended to call into question the fact that the gas chambers were used to kill people, and the crematoria to burn corpses on a mass scale.

Leuchter claims that only 278 people could fit in one gas chamber. He came up with this figure on the basis of the fictitious assumption that a person in a standing position takes up almost a square meter of floor space (0.836 sq. m.), while in fact many people were squeezed into each square meter of the gas chamber.

Even if the gas chambers did in fact exist, according to Leuchter, only 278 people could be killed in one of them, and not 2 thousand. Furthermore, he claims that this could not be done every day, but rather once a week. According to Leuchter, it took a week to air out the gas chamber. This is a totally groundless assumption with no support either from experiments or from the historical sources. Regardless of the fact that the use of gas masks made it possible to start dragging the corpses out of the gas chamber only 20 to 30 minutes after the introduction of the gas, and that some of the gas chambers were equipped with mechanical ventilation, the claim that it took a week to air out a gas chamber is contradicted by extant regulations, issued by the camp administration, about the safety measures to be used during disinfection with Zyklon B. An order from the commandant on August 12, 1942 reminds SS men that they are forbidden to enter rooms being aired out after the use of Zyklon B for 5 hours.

The “Leuchter Report” also questions the capacity—the throughput—of the crematoria. On the basis of data about the procedures used in civilian crematoria, where the corpses are burned one at a time and completely (as opposed to the way they were burned in Auschwitz—several at a time and not completely, with mechanical grinding used to reduce unburned bones to powder), Leuchter states that 714 bodies per week could be burned in one crematorium (II or III), and, “realistically,” 315 per week.

This is contradicted not only by statements from former prisoners and Auschwitz commandant himself. The basic German document on crematorium throughput, prepared by the Central Construction Board in Auschwitz on June 28, 1943, states that the five crematoria in the Auschwitz and Birkenau camps, together, can burn 4,756 corpses in a 24-hour period. This document indicates that the Birkenau crematoria could burn 1.6 million bodies per year.

These facts make it clear that the “Leuchter Report,” allegedly a watershed in understanding Auschwitz, is in fact nothing more than an attempt, concealed beneath an academic-looking smokescreen of graphs, analyses, and calculations, at misinforming readers who have no access to the scholarly literature—or who are looking for precisely the sort of conclusions that Leuchter offers.
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Memorial & Museum Auschwitz-Birkenau
 
Rudolf Hoess, Commandant of Auschwitz:
Testimony at Nuremburg, 1946

1, RUDOLF FRANZ FERDINAND HOESS, being first duly sworn, depose and say as follows:

1. I am forty*six years old, and have been a member of the NSDAPI since 1922; a member of the SS since 1934; a member of the Waffen*SS since 1939. I was a member from 1 December 1934 of the SS Guard Unit, the so*called Deathshead Formation (Totenkopf Verband).

2. I have been constantly associated with the administration of concentration camps since 1934, serving at Dachau until 1938; then as Adjutant in Sachsenhausen from 1938 to 1 May, 1940, when I was appointed Commandant of Auschwitz. l commanded Auschwitz until 1 December,1943, and estimate that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total dead of about 3,000,000. This figure represents about 70% or 80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries. Included among the executed and burnt were approximately 20,000 Russian prisoners of war (previously screened out of Prisoner of War cages by the Gestapo) who were delivered at Auschwitz in Wehrmacht transports operated by regular Wehrmacht officers and men. The remainder of the total number of victims included about 100,000 German Jews, and great numbers of citizens (mostly Jewish) from Holland, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, or other countries. We executed about 400,000 Hungarian Jews alone at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944.

4. Mass executions by gassing commenced during the summer 1941 and continued until fall 1944.1 personally supervised executions at Auschwitz until the first of December 1943 and know by reason of my continued duties in the Inspectorate of Concentration Camps WVHA2 that these mass executions continued as stated above. All mass executions by gassing took place under the direct order, supervision and responsibility of RSHA.31 received all orders for carrying out these mass executions directly from RSHA.

6. The "final solution" of the Jewish question meant the complete extermination of all Jews in Europe. l was ordered to establish extermination facilities at Auschwitz in June 1941. At that time there were already in the general govemment three other extermination camps; BELZEK, TREBLINKA and WOLZEK. These camps were under the Einsatzkommando of the Security Police and SD. I visited Treblinka to find out how they carried out their exterminations. The Camp Commandant at Treblinka told me that he had liquidated 80,000 in the course of one*half year. He was principally concerned with liquidating all the Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto. He used monoxide gas and I did not think that his methods were very efficient. So when I set up the extermination building at Auschwitz, l used Cyclon B, which was a crystallized Prussic Acid which we dropped into the death chamber from a small opening. It took from 3 to 15 minutes to kill the people in the death chamber depending upon climatic conditions. We knew when the people were dead because their screaming stopped. We usually waited about one*half hour before we opened the doors and removed the bodies. After the bodies were removed our special commandos took off the rings and extracted the gold from the teeth of the corpses.

7. Another improvement we made over Treblinka was that we built our gas chambers to accommodate 2,000 people at one time, whereas at Treblinka their 10 gas chambers only accommodated 200 people each. The way we selected our victims was as follows: we had two SS doctors on duty at Auschwitz to examine the incoming transports of prisoners. The prisoners would be marched by one of the doctors who would make spot decisions as they walked by. Those who were fit for work were sent into the Camp. Others were sent immediately to the extermination plants. Children of tender years were invariably exterminated since by reason of their youth they were unable to work. Still another improvement we made over Treblinka was that at Treblinka the victims almost always knew that they were to be exterminated and at Auschwitz we endeavored to fool the victims into thinking that they were to go through a delousing process. Of course, frequently they realized our true intentions and we sometimes had riots and difficulties due to that fact. Very frequently women would hide their children under the clothes but of course when we found them we would send the children in to be exterminated. We were required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy but of course the foul and nauseating stench from the continuous burning of bodies permeated the entire area and all of the people living in the surrounding communities knew that exterminations were going on at Auschwitz .

8. We received from time to time special prisoners from the local Gestapo office. The SS doctors killed such prisoners by injections of benzine. Doctors had orders to write ordinary death certificates and could put down any reason at all for the cause of death.

9. From time to time we conducted medical experiments on women inmates, including sterilization and experiments relating to cancer. Most of the people who died under these experiments had been already condemned to death by the Gestapo.

10. Rudolf Mildner was the chief of the Gestapo at Kattowicz and as such was head of the political department at Auschwitz which conducted third degree methods of interrogation from approximately March 1941 until September 1943. As such, he frequently sent prisoners to Auschwitz for incarceration or execution. He visited Auschwitz on several occasions. The Gestapo Court, the SS Standgericht, which tried persons accused of various crimes, such as escaping Prisoners of War, etc., frequently met within Auschwitz, and Mildner often attended the trial of such persons, who usually were executed in Auschwitz following their sentence. l showed Mildner throughout the extermination plant at Auschwitz and he was directly interested in it since he had to send the Jews from his territory for execution at Auschwitz.

I understand English as it is written above. The above statements are true; this declaration is made by me voluntarily and without compulsion; after reading over the statement, I have signed and executed the same at Nurnberg, Germany on the fifth day of April 1946.
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“A thousand years will pass and the guilt of Germany will not be erased.”...Hans Frank, Nazi Governor-General for Poland, exectuted for crimes against humanity
 
I am sure after being in an Allied prison for over a year and continuously tortured.

The Commandant would sign any papers his soon to be executioners would stick in his face.

So called "confessions" like these really have no value as being truthful.
 
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Sunni Man said:
I am sure after being in an Allied prison for over a year and continuously tortured.

The Commandant would sign any papers his soon to be executioners would stick in his face.

So called "confessions" like these really have no value as being truthful.
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Actually, it's proof that as usual, you are pwned.

The nazis did it, only an asshole would deny it.

So if you keep denying it, you prove you are an asshole.

Your choice.
 
Xenophon said:
Sunni Man said:
I am sure after being in an Allied prison for over a year and continuously tortured.

The Commandant would sign any papers his soon to be executioners would stick in his face.

So called "confessions" like these really have no value as being truthful.
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Actually, it's proof that as usual, you are pwned.

The nazis did it, only an asshole would deny it.

So if you keep denying it, you prove you are an asshole.

Your choice.
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Children are taught to believe in the Holohoax, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, etc.

By the time they grow up to be adults. These fairy tales are left behind.

All except the Holohoax.

For some reason this powerful myth stays with people as they grow up.
 
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