Why Conservatives Are Really The Same As Communists

[Si modo]

A lot of liberals have no clue what a Bell curve is. Useful idiots - don't even grasp standard distributions.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Who said anything about a 'final solution'?


I told you the end goal.

In pursuits of a progressive Utopian dream, they always end up in the same place.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Who said anything about a 'final solution'?


I told you the end goal.

lol


a rep attack?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Who said anything about a 'final solution'?


I told you the end goal.

lol


a rep attack?

You neg me, I neg you back .dont whine bitch

Why Conservatives Are... 03-02-2010 09:37 PM given by ☭proletarian☭

Why Conservatives Are Really... 03-02-2010 09:47 PM given to ☭proletarian☭

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You're the one who said advocating smaller gov't makes someone a nazi

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You're the one who said advocating smaller gov't makes someone a nazi

Link?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You called yourself a progressive own it .

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You called yourself a progressive own it .

Yep. I do support civil rights, women's suffrage, child labor laws, and the 8/40 work schedule.


I'm also a republican, a neo-federalist, a liberal, a (fiscal) conservative, a socialist and damned near a minarchist.


What's your point?

 

[Dr Grump]

You called yourself a progressive own it .

Yep. I do support civil rights, women's suffrage, child labor laws, and the 8/40 work schedule.


I'm also a republican, a neo-federalist, a liberal, a (fiscal) conservative, a socialist and damned near a minarchist.


What's your point?

You don't fit nicely into his little box??..

...or he thinks you do?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You called yourself a progressive own it .

Yep. I do support civil rights, women's suffrage, child labor laws, and the 8/40 work schedule.


I'm also a republican, a neo-federalist, a liberal, a (fiscal) conservative, a socialist and damned near a minarchist.


What's your point?

Id say something has scrambled your egg.

 

[Misty]

One of communism's main ideals is complete control over industries.*

Communism strives for the complete equality of all incomes.

This does not in anyway describe America

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Communist doctrine demands that all people are created equal, but as Orwell pointed out, 'some are more equal than others'. IOW, the reality is a whole lot different.

With conservatives (on this board anyway), they want everybody to be equal. ie: if you work hard, are not a lazy arse, then you will get the rewards you deserve just like everybody else.

Now, the thing is, if we all managed to fulfil the Conservative Doctrine - ie, full employment, work hard, and enjoy the fruits of our labour, then isn't that communism? We'll all be the same? We all would have the same working conditions etc?

I am being slightly facetious, but I'm really trying to point out how ridiculous conservative thought is. Do conservatives really believe that we can ALL have excellent paying jobs, benefits and therefore not be a burden on the tax system? Do they really believe that? If so, then they are morons, because even the most dimmest lightbulb on either aisle knows that there are not enough jobs that pay $120,000 a year plus benefits. They know that when they yell "Stop whining about your lot in life and get yourself a better job", that if everybody ACTUALLY attempted this, then there are not enough jobs to go around. IOW, they are demanding of EVERYBODY, something that in reality can never happen.

This is why when it comes to jobs and the free market, conservatives are full of shit. All they see is their own set of circumstances and achievements, and can't for the life of them figure out that their end game is some idealised Utopia that is impossible to fulfil.


Rant over....

Does someone have an Idiot/English dictionary handy?

 

[Dr Grump]

One of communism's main ideals is complete control over industries.*

Communism strives for the complete equality of all incomes.

This does not in anyway describe America

But I am arguing - in a warped way - that that is a similar goal of conservatism...

 

[Dr Grump]

Communist doctrine demands that all people are created equal, but as Orwell pointed out, 'some are more equal than others'. IOW, the reality is a whole lot different.

With conservatives (on this board anyway), they want everybody to be equal. ie: if you work hard, are not a lazy arse, then you will get the rewards you deserve just like everybody else.

Now, the thing is, if we all managed to fulfil the Conservative Doctrine - ie, full employment, work hard, and enjoy the fruits of our labour, then isn't that communism? We'll all be the same? We all would have the same working conditions etc?

I am being slightly facetious, but I'm really trying to point out how ridiculous conservative thought is. Do conservatives really believe that we can ALL have excellent paying jobs, benefits and therefore not be a burden on the tax system? Do they really believe that? If so, then they are morons, because even the most dimmest lightbulb on either aisle knows that there are not enough jobs that pay $120,000 a year plus benefits. They know that when they yell "Stop whining about your lot in life and get yourself a better job", that if everybody ACTUALLY attempted this, then there are not enough jobs to go around. IOW, they are demanding of EVERYBODY, something that in reality can never happen.

This is why when it comes to jobs and the free market, conservatives are full of shit. All they see is their own set of circumstances and achievements, and can't for the life of them figure out that their end game is some idealised Utopia that is impossible to fulfil.


Rant over....

Does someone have an Idiot/English dictionary handy?

Well, it took 70 posts, but this is no longer a troll-free thread....

 

[Ringel05]

Communist doctrine demands that all people are created equal, but as Orwell pointed out, 'some are more equal than others'. IOW, the reality is a whole lot different.

With conservatives (on this board anyway), they want everybody to be equal. ie: if you work hard, are not a lazy arse, then you will get the rewards you deserve just like everybody else.

Now, the thing is, if we all managed to fulfil the Conservative Doctrine - ie, full employment, work hard, and enjoy the fruits of our labour, then isn't that communism? We'll all be the same? We all would have the same working conditions etc?

I am being slightly facetious, but I'm really trying to point out how ridiculous conservative thought is. Do conservatives really believe that we can ALL have excellent paying jobs, benefits and therefore not be a burden on the tax system? Do they really believe that? If so, then they are morons, because even the most dimmest lightbulb on either aisle knows that there are not enough jobs that pay $120,000 a year plus benefits. They know that when they yell "Stop whining about your lot in life and get yourself a better job", that if everybody ACTUALLY attempted this, then there are not enough jobs to go around. IOW, they are demanding of EVERYBODY, something that in reality can never happen.

This is why when it comes to jobs and the free market, conservatives are full of shit. All they see is their own set of circumstances and achievements, and can't for the life of them figure out that their end game is some idealised Utopia that is impossible to fulfil.


Rant over....

Does someone have an Idiot/English dictionary handy?

Well, it took 70 posts, but this is no longer a troll-free thread....

You're kidding right?! I noticed it with the OP.

 

[Dr Grump]

Does someone have an Idiot/English dictionary handy?

Well, it took 70 posts, but this is no longer a troll-free thread....

You're kidding right?! I noticed it with the OP.

Hee Haw.....

 

[☭proletarian☭]

You called yourself a progressive own it .

Yep. I do support civil rights, women's suffrage, child labor laws, and the 8/40 work schedule.


I'm also a republican, a neo-federalist, a liberal, a (fiscal) conservative, a socialist and damned near a minarchist.


What's your point?

You don't fit nicely into his little box??..

...or he thinks you do?

I don't think he knows what he's trying to say, to be honest with you.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

One of communism's main ideals is complete control over industries.*

-by the labourers. That is ownership of the means of production by the people who actually work. Factories and farms owned by the workers.

See: coops

Communism strives for the complete equality of all incomes.

Some extreme forms do. I don't support them, because it's effectively impossible by definition, given the subjective nature of the value of goods and services.

 

[Dr Grump]

I don't think he knows what he's trying to say, to be honest with you.

I do. He's trying to use the old "if you go down that road, this is one of the outcomes"....or even the "slippery slope" argument, which is what the gun lovers use - ie. "you take my guns, this time next year we'll all be slaves to the gummint" etc, etc.

Nowhere in your proposal is there anything about "enemies of the state"..

Using Belrus is an example doesn't help his argument. Belrus is one of the few former Soviet Republics that as close to as what Soviet idealism was pre Gorbachev....

 

[☭proletarian☭]

I do. He's trying to use the old "if you go down that road, this is one of the outcomes"....or even the "slippery slope" argument, which is what the gun lovers use - ie. "you take my guns, this time next year we'll all be slaves to the gummint" etc, etc.

But the road I'm advocating is basically the Constitution


This guy's gotta be a Poe account or something.