Why Confront Islam?

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    In spite of what the Left claims, ignoring Islam only opens the door wide for Muslims to expand their influence in America.

    Because if we don’t, it will continue to get more extreme. This is not Islamophobia, as many Muslims and their leftist apologists claim. A phobia is a baseless irrational fear. Abomination of Islam is based on irrefutable facts and it is not only rational, it is ethically imperative. Until the Western world understands the threat of Islamic ideology to their society and culture, people will continue to die. We simply cannot ignore this assault to our way of life.

    A telling essay on what America is confronted by the presence of Islam.

    Much more @ Why Confront Islam?
     
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    Two words: Pam Geller.

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    " Ode To The OBJECTIVE WHILE IGNORANT "

    * 1400 Years Of Homicide By Doctrine *
    Such stupidity as yours is common place .
     
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    " Identifying Weak Strategy "

    * I Slam Idiom *
    The term islam is an infinitive meaning " to submit " and muslim is a term meaning " one who submits " .

    An allusion to " one who submits to submission " is circular reasoning characteristic of the worst absurdities evident of orwellian Doublespeak - Wikipedia .

    The generic quality of the terms " islam " and " muslim " bare no specific meaning , such that , one may practice islam in a bdsm dungeon by being a muslim to a dominatrix is a valid application of the terms .

    The first problem to be confront is to deconstruct the term through etymology and whenever used , in a written response , referred to as " i slam " , so that it can be understood by its literal declaration for hostile behavior , and to further dispatch it as an acceptable ideology as one directing the violation of non aggression principles .

    The term i slam should be further identified as a reference to the pretentious supremacy of arab cultural hegemony , whose world governments are hostile to individual liberty , as per hisbah , and to replace its use in the public lexicon with the correct descriptor of " qurayshism " , when its edicts are supposed within hejaz , and with " fictional ishmaelism " , when its edicts are presumed to apply outside of hejaz .

    That is because qurayshism and torahnism are genetic religions that would not apply outside of their respective city states of hejaz and israel .
     
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    We in the United States presently have the obligation and the RIGHT to witness to those who are blind. The truth will always outshine lies. However, if the truth is locked away or removed or prevented from revelation, than darkness will seem to be correct when it fact it is only waves of deceit.
     
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    " Us Pandering To Terrorist Promotion "

    * Playing With A Stacked Deck *
    The only thing more mundane than the saudi sunni agenda is that the shia , who are literally not - by any way in hell - descendants of ishmael within hejaz , have bought into fictional ishmaelism since before the Abbasid Revolution - Wikipedia in 750 ad .

    * Depose The Terrorist State And Return Hejaz To The Hashemites *

    State-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia
    While Saudi Arabia is often a secondary source of funds and support for terror movements who can find more motivated and ideologically invested benefactors (e.g. Qatar), Saudi Arabia arguably remains the most prolific sponsor of international Islamist terrorism, allegedly supporting groups as disparate as the Afghanistan Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Al-Nusra Front.[101][102]

    Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[103] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant and others. In a December 2009 diplomatic cable to U.S. State Department staff (made public in the diplomatic cable leaks the following year), U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged U.S. diplomats to increase efforts to block money from Gulf Arab states from going to terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan, writing that "Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide" and that "More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups."[40] An August 2009 State Department cable also said that the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, used a Saudi-based front company to fund its activities in 2005.[40][40][104]

    The violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan is partly bankrolled by wealthy, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them.[40] Three other Arab countries which are listed as sources of militant money are Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates, all neighbors of Saudi Arabia.[40][41]

    Starting in the mid-1970s the Islamic resurgence was funded by an abundance of money from Saudi Arabian oil exports.[109] The tens of billions of dollars in "petro-Islam" largess obtained from the recently heightened price of oil funded an estimated "90% of the expenses of the entire faith."[110]

    Throughout the Sunni Muslim world, religious institutions for people both young and old, from children's maddrassas to high-level scholarships received Saudi funding,[111] "books, scholarships, fellowships, and mosques" (for example, "more than 1500 mosques were built and paid for with money obtained from public Saudi funds over the last 50 years"),[112] along with training in the Kingdom for the preachers and teachers who went on to teach and work at these universities, schools, mosques, etc.[113] The funding was also used to reward journalists and academics who followed the Saudis' strict interpretation of Islam; and satellite campuses were built around Egypt for Al Azhar, the world's oldest and most influential Islamic university.[114]

    The interpretation of Islam promoted by this funding was the strict, conservative Saudi-based Wahhabism or Salafism. In its harshest form it preached that Muslims should not only "always oppose" infidels "in every way", but "hate them for their religion ... for Allah's sake", that democracy "is responsible for all the horrible wars of the 20th century", that Shia and other non-Wahhabi Muslims were "infidels", etc.[115] According to former Prime Minister of Singapore Lee Kuan Yew, while this effort has by no means converted all, or even most, Muslims to the Wahhabist interpretation of Islam, it has done much to overwhelm more moderate local interpretations of Islam in Southeast Asia, and to pitch the Saudi-interpretation of Islam as the "gold standard" of religion in minds of Muslims across the globe.[116]
     
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    " Open Source Community Direct Observation Room "

    * Critically Acclaimed Indifference *
    In reference to the OP link , the following assertion is absurd , " To Muslims, every word of the Quran is a literal, perfect, immutable, eternal word of Allah himself. " .

    That some event of recitation occurs does not imply that its dictum qualifies as a conscript for divine or even perfect law .

    The principles of non aggression are self evident and complex , however it can be applied towards an amicable expectation .

    * Clearly Literal Incompleteness *

    Quran - Wikipedia
    The Quran (/kɔːrˈɑːn/[a] kor-AHN; Arabic: القرآن‎ al-Qurʾān, literally meaning "the recitation"; also romanized Qur'an or Koran[c]) is the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God (Allah).[1] It is widely regarded as the finest work in classical Arabic literature.[2][3][4][5] The Quran is divided into chapters (surah in Arabic), which are then divided into verses (ayah).

    Muslims believe that the Quran was verbally revealed by God to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel (Jibril),[6][7] gradually over a period of approximately 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE,[8] when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632, the year of his death.[1][9][10]

    According to the traditional narrative, several companions of Muhammad served as scribes and were responsible for writing down the revelations.[13] Shortly after Muhammad's death, the Quran was compiled by his companions who wrote down and memorized parts of it.[14] These codices had differences that motivated the Caliph Uthman to establish a standard version now known as Uthman's codex, which is generally considered the archetype of the Quran known today.


    * Annexed Is A Fancy Word For Violent Domination *

    Hashemites - Wikipedia
    The Hashemites claim to trace their ancestry from Hashim ibn 'Abd Manaf (died c. 497 AD), the great-grandfather of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, although the definition today mainly refers to the descendants of Muhammad's daughter Fatimah.[1] The early history of the Hashemites saw them in a continuous struggle against the Umayyads for control over who would be the caliph or successor to Muhammad. The Umayyads were of the same tribe as the Hashemites, but a different clan. After the overthrow of the Umayyads, the Abbasids would present themselves as representatives of the Hashemites, as they claimed descent from Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, an uncle of Muhammad. Muhammad's father had died before he was born, and his mother died while he was a child, so Muhammad was raised by his uncle Abu Talib ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, chief of the Hashemites.[2]

    From the 10th century onwards, the sharif (religious leader) of Mecca and its emir was, by traditional agreement, a Hashemite. Before World War I, Hussein bin Ali of the Hashemite Dhawu-'Awn clan ruled the Hejaz on behalf of the Ottoman sultan. For some time it had been the practice of the Sublime Porte to appoint the Emir of Mecca from among a select group of candidates. In 1908, Hussein bin Ali was appointed to the Emirate of Mecca. He found himself increasingly at odds with the Young Turks in control at Istanbul, while he strove to secure his family's position as hereditary emirs.

    Sharif Hussein bin Ali rebelled against the rule of the Ottomans during the Arab Revolt of 1916.[3] Between 1917 and 1924, after the collapse of Ottoman power, Hussein bin Ali ruled an independent Hejaz, of which he proclaimed himself king, with the tacit support of the British Foreign Office. His supporters are sometimes referred to as "Sharifians" or the "Sharifian party". Hussein bin Ali's chief rival in the Arabian Peninsula, the king of the Najd (highlands), Ibn Saud, annexed the Hejaz in 1925 and established his own son, Faysal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, as governor. The region was later incorporated into Saudi Arabia.

    * Genetic Religion Qurayshism *

    Quraysh - Wikipedia
    The Quraysh (Arabic: قريش‎) were a mercantile Arab tribe that historically inhabited and controlled Mecca and its Ka'aba. The Islamic prophet Muhammad was born into the Banu Hashim clan of the Quraysh tribe.

    Sūrah 106: Quraysh
    In the Name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
    1. For the accustomed security of the Quraysh,
    2. Their accustomed security [in] the caravan of winter and summer,
    3. Let them worship the Lord of this House,
    4. Who has fed them, [saving them] from hunger and made them safe, [saving them] from fear.
     
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    How is a Muslim saved according to their Quran?
     
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    So what do you propose to do?
     
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    Hey, at least I know what Pam Geller is.

    Suppose the article was "Why Confront Black People" by David Duke. Same shit, different target.
     
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