Why Can’t A Daca Bill Sail Through Congress?

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Didn't Trump insist Mexico will pay for the wall? Why everyone is asking for the rest of us to pay for it?

I agree.

We need to invade, kick the fuck out of that shithole, take their money/gold/oil/whatever, and leave that shithole burning.

We aagree on something.

 

[Coyote]

I am not convinced on the pathway to citizenship issue. Why is it necessary?

I'm not convinced on the end to chain migration. Families are stabilizing elements in a society and having family members there to support an immigrant through the transition to American life is a good thing.

I'm not convinced we need to end the lottery. How about we quit talking about END to something and readjust proportions - increase merit based, decrease lottery.

Wall schmall - I support increasing border security.

Adjustments avoid hard decisions. Trump makes hard decisions. That's why he's president and she isn't.

He doesn't make hard decisions. He makes stupid ones based on his feelings of the moment.

 

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Leaked Memo: DACA Amnesty Is 'Critical Component of Democratic Party's Future Electoral Success'

But, but, but their... dreamers

Ya... democrats call legal American citizens "DEPLORABLES" and illegal aliens "DREAMERS."

Tells you everything you need to know about the democrat party right there.

 

[Coyote]

I am not convinced on the pathway to citizenship issue. Why is it necessary?

I'm not convinced on the end to chain migration. Families are stabilizing elements in a society and having family members there to support an immigrant through the transition to American life is a good thing.

I'm not convinced we need to end the lottery. How about we quit talking about END to something and readjust proportions - increase merit based, decrease lottery.

Wall schmall - I support increasing border security.

That is a non starter coyote and that is exactly why we have illegal immigration. Send the kid up and when he or she gets in we can call the whole family. Cmon,get real. And republicans have talked of a nuclear family being allowed, not an extended family. Your opinion is basically open the doors and let everyone in. That must stop.

Yes. Let's get real. That's not the way it works in Real Life.

 

[peach174]

Didn't Trump insist Mexico will pay for the wall? Why everyone is asking for the rest of us to pay for it?

We pay upfront.
Mexico pays it back through fairer tariffs and trade taxes.

 

[bripat9643]

Ok, lets clear out all the noise and partisanship. The Daca bill has been easily described as four pillars.

End to chain migration
End to lottery
The wall
Pathway to citizenship for dreamers

So fund the 20 billion for wall and security and pass the thing. I would vote for this in a heartbeat. It is a reasonable compromise. I would wager a hundred dollars that if this deal was presented to Americans for a vote it would pass by a super majority. Bring this bill in this simple form to the floor and vote on it. This is not rocket science. I can’t believe that even some of our libs would not support this. Get er done!

That would end the Dim's supply of new Democrat voters, so they will never go for it.

 

[Rustic]

DACA has a diminishing return

 

[Coyote]

I am not convinced on the pathway to citizenship issue. Why is it necessary?

I'm not convinced on the end to chain migration. Families are stabilizing elements in a society and having family members there to support an immigrant through the transition to American life is a good thing.

I'm not convinced we need to end the lottery. How about we quit talking about END to something and readjust proportions - increase merit based, decrease lottery.

Wall schmall - I support increasing border security.

Do you have a whole bunch of family members that you want to bring in from another country?

No, and even if I did - I couldn't. It simply doesn't work that way.

 

[bripat9643]

Ok, lets clear out all the noise and partisanship. The Daca bill has been easily described as four pillars.

End to chain migration
End to lottery
The wall
Pathway to citizenship for dreamers

So fund the 20 billion for wall and security and pass the thing. I would vote for this in a heartbeat. It is a reasonable compromise. I would wager a hundred dollars that if this deal was presented to Americans for a vote it would pass by a super majority. Bring this bill in this simple form to the floor and vote on it. This is not rocket science. I can’t believe that even some of our libs would not support this. Get er done!

The thing of it is, the far left wants open boarders and chain migration and has taken a hard line stand on it.
That is exactly why they can't get it passed.

The far right has taken a hard line stand on DACA and insist on ending family reunification and the lottery. What's with that? That might be another reason it can't get passed.

Why should you get a visa because your nephew got a green card through amnesty?

Not going to happen.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Saying chain migration is not a big deal is just plain wrong

More Than 70 Percent Of Immigrants Came From Chain Migration

 

[Coyote]

I'm not convinced we need to end the lottery. How about we quit talking about END to something and readjust proportions - increase merit based, decrease lottery.

Fuck lottery. Merit-based ONLY. Immigration should be used to improve America and for no other reason.

Who do you think comes in via the lottery? A one in a million chance at a better life: will the US green card lottery survive?

If it was strictly merit you'd be seeing a lot of Indians and Chinese coming in and then you'd be screaming about the end of the white race in America.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I just don’t see how this can get done.

Forget it.

Kick those DACA bastards the fuck out.

It is the only path forward without all the bullshit the commie left will try to pile on.

Citzenship (not necessary)

Chain-migration

Shithole lottery.

Nightmares too (“Dreamers)

Bye, illegal brats.

 

[saveliberty]

Allowing Dreamers legal status simply encourages more of the same behavior from others. Better to be firm and wake them up now.

 

[my2¢]

I can't imagine DACA getting through the House. I think this fall's election will be a referendum on this issue when we decide whether to keep or boot our representative.

 

[Ridgerunner]

No, and even if I did - I couldn't. It simply doesn't work that way.

Unless you hire someone with the occupation like your name...

 

[Coyote]

Ok, lets clear out all the noise and partisanship. The Daca bill has been easily described as four pillars.

End to chain migration
End to lottery
The wall
Pathway to citizenship for dreamers

So fund the 20 billion for wall and security and pass the thing. I would vote for this in a heartbeat. It is a reasonable compromise. I would wager a hundred dollars that if this deal was presented to Americans for a vote it would pass by a super majority. Bring this bill in this simple form to the floor and vote on it. This is not rocket science. I can’t believe that even some of our libs would not support this. Get er done!

The thing of it is, the far left wants open boarders and chain migration and has taken a hard line stand on it.
That is exactly why they can't get it passed.

The far right has taken a hard line stand on DACA and insist on ending family reunification and the lottery. What's with that? That might be another reason it can't get passed.

Why should you get a visa because your nephew got a green card through amnesty?

Not going to happen.

It doesn't exactly work that easily. Beyond immediate family (spouse and minor children) - it can take years to get a visa for other family members, so the impression you are giving that they bring in dozens and hundreds of remote relatives as soon as they get their green card is false.

 

[Unkotare]

No citizenship. Not necessary.

No chain migration. Stay in your own shithole or live without your retarded, useless family.

You choose.

100% un-American attitude ^^^^^^^^ Ignorant & disgraceful

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Who do you think comes in via the lottery? A one in a million chance at a better life: will the US green card lottery survive?

If it was strictly merit you'd be seeing a lot of Indians and Chinese coming in and then you'd be screaming about the end of the white race in America.

Think of how many assumptions you had to accept as true in order to make that statement.



I am not even going to respond.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

100% un-American attitude ^^^^^^^^ Ignorant & disgraceful

DACA’s purpose is?

 

[mudwhistle]

Ok, lets clear out all the noise and partisanship. The Daca bill has been easily described as four pillars.

End to chain migration
End to lottery
The wall
Pathway to citizenship for dreamers

So fund the 20 billion for wall and security and pass the thing. I would vote for this in a heartbeat. It is a reasonable compromise. I would wager a hundred dollars that if this deal was presented to Americans for a vote it would pass by a super majority. Bring this bill in this simple form to the floor and vote on it. This is not rocket science. I can’t believe that even some of our libs would not support this. Get er done!

Chucky Schumer backed out on the Wall deal.

So basically we're back to square one and Schumer lying about Trump.

Democrats need issues to bitch about.....they don't want to give up their favorite issue.