Why Blacks lose respect...

[sagegirl]

It is pure lunacy. Unfortunately for blacks, slavery is the best thing that ever happened to them. Too bad they don't bother to take advantage of it and choose to whine instead. This has little to do with their leaders. That is yet another excuse that whites give blacks to justify their inappropriate behaviors.

Just curious, where is everyone from around here?

I live in Baton Rouge LA and we have plenty of blacks here but not on my side of town. You wouldn't catch any smart person dead going into the "black" area of this town. The reason I ask is that most people who are PC about blacks don't live around any of them.

I cant agree with your statement that slavery was the best thing blah blah blah....I do tend to agree with the rest of your statement, we live in a very segregated society, I live in Pacifie NW so we have very few rural blacks and urban blacks are mostly in specific parts of a city.
Blacks are rejecting the white value system because they resent a general and sometimes unspoken racist attitude and in doing so have limited their ability to participate in the spoils. A coalition based on serving their interests, rather than exploiting their resentment, needs to be established, so they have choices on who they vote for.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I cant agree with your statement that slavery was the best thing blah blah blah....I do tend to agree with the rest of your statement, we live in a very segregated society, I live in Pacifie NW so we have very few rural blacks and urban blacks are mostly in specific parts of a city.
Blacks are rejecting the white value system because they resent a general and sometimes unspoken racist attitude and in doing so have limited their ability to participate in the spoils. A coalition based on serving their interests, rather than exploiting their resentment, needs to be established, so they have choices on who they vote for.

This won't work sagegirl. Blacks interests are the same as everyone else's interests. They want good jobs, which only stem from a growing economy. When your goal is to stifle the economy for fear of losing control and power, as is the goal of modern socialists and old money, doing what is actually good for blacks does not serve your divisive purpose.

 

[GotZoom]

I cant agree with your statement that slavery was the best thing blah blah blah....I do tend to agree with the rest of your statement, we live in a very segregated society, I live in Pacifie NW so we have very few rural blacks and urban blacks are mostly in specific parts of a city.
Blacks are rejecting the white value system because they resent a general and sometimes unspoken racist attitude and in doing so have limited their ability to participate in the spoils. A coalition based on serving their interests, rather than exploiting their resentment, needs to be established, so they have choices on who they vote for.

You have been listening to Jessie and Al wayyyyy too much. Except for your sentence about serving their interests instead of exploiting their resentment of course.

A limited abiilty to participate in the spoils? I think most major city governments have restrictions in place that force "government funded" to have X percentage of minority business involved. I would go as far as saying that if your city said that 30 percent had to be minority owned..but published in the paper that they were accepting bids, and that those bids had to come from 70 percent "white-owned" businesses, people would go nuts.

Who says Blacks don't have a choice who to vote for? Last time I checked, there was more than 1 person on the ballot.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I was being panhandled in the subway by a black. I said no. He replied, "Happy Kwaanza!". I said, "Kwaanza doesn't exist, some idiots made it up." He said, "Just like Christmas." I laughed.

I think it's a matter of self respect to defy your oppressors. I haven't heard of many Jews who became Nazis. If these Muslim fools ever captured me you better believe I would not become a Muslim. So I just don't get it on basis of self respect.

For kunta kinte yes. Chicken george knew no better.


"a guitar is a "ko""

 

[sagegirl]

This won't work sagegirl. Blacks interests are the same as everyone else's interests. They want good jobs, which only stem from a growing economy. When your goal is to stifle the economy for fear of losing control and power, as is the goal of modern socialists and old money, doing what is actually good for blacks does not serve your divisive purpose.

I didnt say it would work....I dont know what will, I recognise that there is a problem and getting government hand outs is not the solution....but blacks seem to have a different agenda. One that does not seem to serve their interests very well. They need to be equals in our society and still be allowed their heritage, so be it slavery, not something to be proud of, but certainly something not to forget, and "white" guilt ( our shame ) over it resents the fact that the blacks wont forget. Tough, slavery, Japanese internment, any and all racism leaves ugly scars. Maybe it should serve as a warning when we currently consider racial profiling when it comes to terrorists or other causes in the future.

 

[Nuc]

This won't work sagegirl. Blacks interests are the same as everyone else's interests. They want good jobs, which only stem from a growing economy. When your goal is to stifle the economy for fear of losing control and power, as is the goal of modern socialists and old money, doing what is actually good for blacks does not serve your divisive purpose.

Correct. The disintegration of black culture in America stems from loss of unskilled and semi-skilled industrial jobs in the cities. Once they had no jobs there was a downward spiral. But who to blame? Corporations for moving the jobs elsewhere, automation?

They have no one but themselves to blame for not adapting to this change by getting skills for the new tech based economic structure. Can't run a computer if you can't read.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

I didnt say it would work....I dont know what will,

Go reread my post. Economic opportunity would work. And not considering the interests "black interests" would also help.

I recognise that there is a problem and getting government hand outs is not the solution....but blacks seem to have a different agenda. One that does not seem to serve their interests very well. They need to be equals in our society and still be allowed their heritage, so be it slavery, not something to be proud of, but certainly something not to forget, and "white" guilt ( our shame ) over it resents the fact that the blacks wont forget. Tough, slavery, Japanese internment, any and all racism leaves ugly scars. Maybe it should serve as a warning when we currently consider racial profiling when it comes to terrorists or other causes in the future.

I don't feel guilty and I don't want slavery to be forgotten either.

Racial profiling is actually terrorist profiling. And of course, if there is a consistent racial trait amongst bombers, it should be part of the profile.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Sagegirl, the pc idiocy you spout is a suicide wish.

 

[GotZoom]

I didnt say it would work....I dont know what will, I recognise that there is a problem and getting government hand outs is not the solution....but blacks seem to have a different agenda. One that does not seem to serve their interests very well. They need to be equals in our society and still be allowed their heritage, so be it slavery, not something to be proud of, but certainly something not to forget, and "white" guilt ( our shame ) over it resents the fact that the blacks wont forget. Tough, slavery, Japanese internment, any and all racism leaves ugly scars. Maybe it should serve as a warning when we currently consider racial profiling when it comes to terrorists or other causes in the future.

Here is a little story. Yesterday, our local power company (MLGW) took applications for $500.00 grants to help people pay their electric/water bills. Memphis has been going through some very hot temperatures in the last month or so. The power company stated that they would take applications from anybody who qualified.

However, they did not say what the qualifications were. Not only that, but when asked by the media why they weren't asking any of the applicants why they felt they qualified for the money, one of the MLGW employees stated, "Our higher ups said we weren't allowed to ask."

Now, while all this is going on, a Temporary Service brought their employees and some applications to where everybody was lining up. They announced that they had jobs open NOW...they could start work TODAY. Clerical and warehouse positions with a starting pay of $10.00 per hour.

Out of the 300 people in line, only one took a job. The rest wanted the hand out.

We can jump up and down all we want about what should be done, but until African-Americans decide for themselves it is time to get off their rears and make a difference in THEIR OWN lives, nothing will happen.

And that applies to everybody.

The "oh poor me" mentality must stop and be replaced by "what can I do to better my self and my situation."

 

[Nuc]

Out of the 300 people in line, only one took a job. The rest wanted the hand out.

We can jump up and down all we want about what should be done, but until African-Americans decide for themselves it is time to get off their rears and make a difference in THEIR OWN lives, nothing will happen.

And that applies to everybody.

The "oh poor me" mentality must stop and be replaced by "what can I do to better my self and my situation."

There is a word for this philosophy. Buddhism. One of the greatest Buddhist sayings is, "No work, no food."

 

[Annie]

I'm not very PC, but I seem to be fortunate to live and teach in an area where there are quite a few blacks that have way more money than I. We share common mores and aspirations for our children. They keep house and cars in more or less the same way as all the others living here. BTW, same is true of Asians and Indians and Hispanics and whites that live in our area. The kids play together and all worship, (that do), at the same churches in the area.

While there are few Muslims in the area, my kids did go to high school with quite a few. The kids played sports and did well academically, though at sporting events, the parents stayed seperate from the rest of us, though we went out of our way to say when their kids did well. Funny thing, there were few head scarfs and such prior to 9/11, many more afterwards. Anyone know what that is about?

 

[sagegirl]

Here is a little story. Yesterday, our local power company (MLGW) took applications for $500.00 grants to help people pay their electric/water bills. Memphis has been going through some very hot temperatures in the last month or so. The power company stated that they would take applications from anybody who qualified.

However, they did not say what the qualifications were. Not only that, but when asked by the media why they weren't asking any of the applicants why they felt they qualified for the money, one of the MLGW employees stated, "Our higher ups said we weren't allowed to ask."

Now, while all this is going on, a Temporary Service brought their employees and some applications to where everybody was lining up. They announced that they had jobs open NOW...they could start work TODAY. Clerical and warehouse positions with a starting pay of $10.00 per hour.

Out of the 300 people in line, only one took a job. The rest wanted the hand out.

We can jump up and down all we want about what should be done, but until African-Americans decide for themselves it is time to get off their rears and make a difference in THEIR OWN lives, nothing will happen.

And that applies to everybody.

The "oh poor me" mentality must stop and be replaced by "what can I do to better my self and my situation."

I totally agree, I dont like handouts, opportunity is much better. The best incentive for opportunity to work is to stop the flow of handouts.

 

[sagegirl]

Sagegirl, the pc idiocy you spout is a suicide wish.

You know, I dont consider myself to be pc on most issues, and my view is that we are already on the infamous slippery slope to self destruction. I guess I want to give some other ideas a chance, what we got aint working, especially world wide, so whats to lose.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

You know, I dont consider myself to be pc on most issues, and my view is that we are already on the infamous slippery slope to self destruction. I guess I want to give some other ideas a chance, what we got aint working, especially world wide, so whats to lose.

You're against terrorist profiling. You want to hamstring our ability to fight the bad guys during a war. That's suicide. Suicide is not a new idea. It's an old, bad idea.

 

[Avatar4321]

If they truly follow leaders like these, that is why i have a lack of respect for Blacks.

So the superspy is a racist. Why am I not surprised !

A Bushlover who is a racist. Goes together like tea and crumpets.

He didn't say anything racist though. Did you even read what he said?

 

[insein]

If they truly follow leaders like these, that is why i have a lack of respect for Blacks.


So the superspy is a racist. Why am I not surprised !

A Bushlover who is a racist. Goes together like tea and crumpets.

lol. Ok ill give you the opportunity. Explain to me what a racist is and then after you have completed that, tell me how i am one?

 

[sagegirl]

You're against terrorist profiling. You want to hamstring our ability to fight the bad guys during a war. That's suicide. Suicide is not a new idea. It's an old, bad idea.

Makes me wonder why YOU arent over there fighting. Oh well
Suicide is an interesting concept when you apply it to war. A soldier will rush into a situation that is surely going to get him or a number of his/her buddies killed, but then DYING FOR A JUST AND WORTHY CAUSE IS A REAL HONOR. You know that IDEA is very Christian, very Muslim, actually a very old, bad idea. (Self sacrifice=Suicide) But it is still being played out and while we condemn the suicide bombers on the enemy side of this, they do battle and die for the same noble and just causes that we claim to die for and the honor it bestows on us. There is little or no validity to all this, it is ongoing insanity.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Makes me wonder why YOU arent over there fighting. Oh well
Suicide is an interesting concept when you apply it to war. A soldier will rush into a situation that is surely going to get him or a number of his/her buddies killed, but then DYING FOR A JUST AND WORTHY CAUSE IS A REAL HONOR. You know that IDEA is very Christian, very Muslim, actually a very old, bad idea. (Self sacrifice=Suicide) But it is still being played out and while we condemn the suicide bombers on the enemy side of this, they do battle and die for the same noble and just causes that we claim to die for and the honor it bestows on us. There is little or no validity to all this, it is ongoing insanity.

You won't find me collecting garbage either, but I still support our government's policy of collecting it.

They're fighting for their right to terrorize and subject others to their radical islam. We're fighting for the right of the people to choose their own form of society.

You really need to learn that cultures should be compared and judged. Choose a criteria and stick with it. Then decide, what are you fighting for?

 

[insein]

Makes me wonder why YOU arent over there fighting. Oh well
Suicide is an interesting concept when you apply it to war. A soldier will rush into a situation that is surely going to get him or a number of his/her buddies killed, but then DYING FOR A JUST AND WORTHY CAUSE IS A REAL HONOR. You know that IDEA is very Christian, very Muslim, actually a very old, bad idea. (Self sacrifice=Suicide) But it is still being played out and while we condemn the suicide bombers on the enemy side of this, they do battle and die for the same noble and just causes that we claim to die for and the honor it bestows on us. There is little or no validity to all this, it is ongoing insanity.

Ok sagey that i find completely offensive that you not only cant understand the difference between a suicide bombber and a US soldiers self sacrifice but that you'd say the 2 are morally equivalent.

On the surface lets look at the 2. A US soldier is fighting along side his fellow americans, his friends. He would fight and die to protect his friends and his country. He protects the innocents, ALL innocents. He would not open fire on a crowd of people walking down the street, getting on a bus, going to a discotech, going to eat dinner, going shopping, going to school, etc. A terrorist has done so on almost EVERY occasion. In every reported instance of a suicide bomb, innocents have died. Soldiers have been killed but civilian casualties have been far greater. They target children, woman, men, dogs, doesnt matter who you are. The terrorists see you as an enemy of islam, especially if your a muslim not fighting the enemy, then you have become and easy target.

Dont ever compare the 2 again. ITs disrespectful.

 

[sagegirl]

You won't find me collecting garbage either, but I still support our government's policy of collecting it.

They're fighting for their right to terrorize and subject others to their radical islam. We're fighting for the right of the people to choose their own form of society.

You really need to learn that cultures should be compared and judged. Choose a criteria and stick with it. Then decide, what are you fighting for?

Thats a big order to compare and judge.....if you could find someone fair and unbiased enough to do it, they wouldnt want the job.
I live my life as my example of what I fight for. I DO NOT COMPROMISE on the issues that are important to me personally, decency, respect, honesty, and responsibility. I will not try to change the attitudes of others, the option to change is up to each individual, I offer up my opinions as one perspective on all this.