Why are we so divided?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And we should have had the tax reform bill done by summer IMHO.

100% it will be done if there is enough support to do it. Do you understand??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The entire court system is in the Constitution and it is an equal branch of government to the Executive and the Congress. Nothing is 'anti-Constitutional' about their decisions..

Courts are in Constitution but liberals violate Constitution when they serve on courts. Constitution requires taking oath of office wherein they swear to preserve and protect Constitution. Liberals oppose Constitution and say they can read it to say anything they want! This is treason. Do you know why our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The 'divide' you see is the one talk radio and Faux News has drilled into your head.

actually our Founders existed long before Fox News. 1+1=2. See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance

 

[anotherlife]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.

 

[anotherlife]

We are divided along ideological lines only because one half of that divide accepts facts and the other half does not.

No because farm facts are different from ghetto facts.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This guy seems to believe that "the left" is radical while believing too that they are so popular that they run everything.

How he believes two different things at the same time is part of the reason America is so fucked now.

You Stalinists are violent thugs. You riot, you assault those who hold views contrary to your fascist party. You form violent mobs to stop expression that you don't agree with.

You are jackbooted thugs, Brown Shirts no different than the scum that followed Hitler.

 

[anotherlife]

This guy seems to believe that "the left" is radical while believing too that they are so popular that they run everything.

How he believes two different things at the same time is part of the reason America is so fucked now.

You Stalinists are violent thugs. You riot, you assault those who hold views contrary to your fascist party. You form violent mobs to stop expression that you don't agree with.

You are jackbooted thugs, Brown Shirts no different than the scum that followed Hitler.

Yes but you don't have as good buzz words.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's a very serious question that puzzles many serious people. The answer is simple, but painful.

One could say that it started with Roe v. Wade. In basic terms, the acceptability of abortion was at stake, and resolution required action by the Peoples' representatives in Congress and/or the state legislatures. And some of them were working on the issue. Congress, of course, avoided the subject like Kryptonite. So the USSC foolishly took the issue on, and "legislated" an ambiguous and intellectually interesting framework, based on one justice's medical readings. And 44 years later we are still fighting about it.

But in a real way, the Court shoved the "Liberal" position down America's throat. The majority of Americans, then and now, believe that abortion is morally evil, perhaps the taking of a human life, but "we" have never actually been heard on the subject.

Consider the death penalty. A strong majority of the American population would support a REAL death penalty - one by which our most egregious criminals could be convicted and promptly dispatched. But the Left has, by manipulation of the courts and the entire criminal justice system, made the DP so difficult, time consuming, and futile, that most people have given up on the issue.

Gay "marriage"? Strong majorities in virtually every state wanted no part of this new institution. But the courts (Leftist jurists) snatched the issue out of the hands of the Peoples' representatives, finding a preposterous right to marry someone of the same gender in the Constitution!

Public benefits and "Constitutional" rights for illegals? Done by Leftist courts with zero support from either the People or the legislatures. U.S Courts have for years been thwarting every effort to take our own immigration laws seriously, in the name of protecting their so-called "Constitutional" rights!

Are you picking up the pattern here? The Left in this country has for many decades been implementing it's broad agenda through anti-Constitutional means, perpetually lacking majority support, or sufficient strength in the legislatures to implement their desired agenda.

Look at how the "global warming agenda" has been thrust down our collective throat. The EPA, with no congressional authorization whatever, declares that CO2 is a "harmful pollutant." Thus an agency GIVES ITSELF the power to impose crippling regulations on industry, transportation, and power generation. When did the American people or their representatives have a chance to vote on this monumental development?

The list goes on and on. The Left feels positively ENTITLED to continue implementing it's agenda through extra - Constitutional means, and those of us who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law are supposed to accept it without complaint.

Yeah, we are pissed at the Left, and that is not going to change anytime soon,

Actually the US has always been divided. Back in the day there were arguments about tariffs on goods. The South exported cotton, the North imported cotton based products.

The Civil War, again, North v. South.

Even now, the differences between the people are often between those who mistrust the government (that they elect) and those who would like the government to improve society.

The whole "shoving Liberal down our throats" is just another way that people who control you make it easy to tell you what to think.

 

[task0778]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

[/QUOTE]

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.[/QUOTE]

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far

 

[anotherlife]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.[/QUOTE]

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far[/QUOTE]

Relative to import products, yes. But the living standard is bound to nosedive anyways if your export is hindered. A strong banking sector is known to be both good and bad, good because it can independently value the local currency, and bad because it destroys the living standard.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far[/QUOTE]

Relative to import products, yes. But the living standard is bound to nosedive anyways if your export is hindered. A strong banking sector is known to be both good and bad, good because it can independently value the local currency, and bad because it destroys the living standard.[/QUOTE]
It seems you are meandering all over creation. You started out saying that Currensy manipulation was extremely important to a nations wealth now you're saying it's merely a tool of some kind what does that mean exactly do you now understand that is not important that every country can manipulate his current sea and none can come out I ahead from doing it?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.[/QUOTE]

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far[/QUOTE]
Actually the USA has about 20% of the worlds manufacturing output which is just a little less than a had in the 60s 70s and 80s.

 

[anotherlife]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far

Relative to import products, yes. But the living standard is bound to nosedive anyways if your export is hindered. A strong banking sector is known to be both good and bad, good because it can independently value the local currency, and bad because it destroys the living standard.[/QUOTE]
It seems you are meandering all over creation. You started out saying that Currensy manipulation was extremely important to a nations wealth now you're saying it's merely a tool of some kind what does that mean exactly do you now understand that is not important that every country can manipulate his current sea and none can come out I ahead from doing it?[/QUOTE]

The industrial capacity and lending volume define the parameters of the manipulation of local currencies. Relatively between nations, you do get an advantage by devaluing your currency if you are less import dependent and more export dependent. Many Asian countries are in this category. The opposite is true for the US and Europe. This is very important I think because this is what determines the cross country migration of non automated jobs.

 

[anotherlife]

so???? every nation values its currency. This does not make a nation richer or poorer.

Yes it does.

who knew so why don't all nations manipulate their currencies and get rich?? It seems 10000% easier than actually developing industries that have the best products in the world!! Who needs a silicon valley or auto industry when you can just manipulate your currency??

Currency manipulation is an export tool and a loan tool. If you use it as an export tool, then you devalue your currency to the level of your industrial production. Obviously, the USA doesn't have the industry production to do that.

My understanding is that if you devalue your currency to improve your exports and trade balance, then you also have diminished the standard of living for your citizenry cuz their money doesn't go as far[/QUOTE]
Actually the USA has about 20% of the worlds manufacturing output which is just a little less than a had in the 60s 70s and 80s.[/QUOTE]

That is debatable, and I think it is a bundled figure, represents probably only cash flow, not actual sales volume to man hour.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

you do get an advantage by devaluing your currency if you are less import dependent and more export dependent.

why is there an advantage??? If you export at low prices your wages then are low too. Low wages and poverty is an advantage?

 

[anotherlife]

you do get an advantage by devaluing your currency if you are less import dependent and more export dependent.

why is there an advantage??? If you export at low prices your wages then are low too. Low wages and poverty is an advantage?

Yes but like mentioned above, this results in poverty only in the absence of domestic production. This is why Asian living standards rise during Asian currency devaluation and in the same time western living standards fall with it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

you do get an advantage by devaluing your currency if you are less import dependent and more export dependent.

why is there an advantage??? If you export at low prices your wages then are low too. Low wages and poverty is an advantage?

Yes but like mentioned above, this results in poverty only in the absence of domestic production. This is why Asian living standards rise during Asian currency devaluation and in the same time western living standards fall with it.

wrong!!! low export prices cause low wages and poverty. how domestic production is regulated and to what end is a different subject. Liberal govt might engineer low wages there too so everyone lives in poverty.

 

[anotherlife]

you do get an advantage by devaluing your currency if you are less import dependent and more export dependent.

why is there an advantage??? If you export at low prices your wages then are low too. Low wages and poverty is an advantage?

Yes but like mentioned above, this results in poverty only in the absence of domestic production. This is why Asian living standards rise during Asian currency devaluation and in the same time western living standards fall with it.

wrong!!! low export prices cause low wages and poverty. how domestic production is regulated and to what end is a different subject. Liberal govt might engineer low wages there too so everyone lives in poverty.

No because domestic production is what determines your dependence on import. The more independent of import you are, the more freedom you have about the currency valuation and living standard.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is a very simplified answer, and I've only really followed U.S politics over the last two years (though followed is extensively).

Education that pushes agendas that are anti-American and sympathetic to communism that are no longer interested in the means, but rather the ends. All actions are justified, even if clearly unAmerican and undemocratic.

Add all of this with a contentious election and a person who promised to do the heavy lifting and difficult work of putting America back on track and you have entitled vs realists. It is very difficult to deal with entitlements once people get comfortable with them. They are often self defeating and soul sapping, not to mention violate the opportunities for the next generation due to debt, but this is a tough concept to sell. Far worse in Canada I assure you.

Worse in Canada? No offense, but I find that hard to believe.

Shocked Canadian is an idiot who is being oppressed by the Canadian government, harassed by CSIS, and prevented from leaving the country because of his political stances.

 

[danielpalos]

Should, ShockedCanadian smoke pot and be more euphoric about being a Canadian, when about his chores?