Why are Dems and media pissed off that Trump is going to observe Jerusalem as Capital of Israel?

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

"Balance" would be restored? Like, that one time in the Middle East.....never?

Why don't we just go declare that region part of the U.S.?


Cheaper that way.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do better.

Fuck you. You do better and think for yourself.

I am. Look at my thoughts that I am posting. Compare them to "Fuck them, let's walk away". Looks like I put a wee bit more effort into my thoughts than you did.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I am. Look at my thoughts that I am posting. Compare them to "Fuck them, let's walk away". Looks like I put a wee bit more effort into my thoughts than you did.

In your own mind.

If we have all the headache and ridiculous expense of babysitting the middle east, and very little benefit, and you say we MUST keep our noses in that shit, WHY DON'T WE FUCKING CONQUER THAT ENTIRE REGION AND MAKE IT OUR OWN????

 

[oreo]

Days of Media Rage about Jerusalem

Wasn't that our CLAIMED policy for decades, but no PRESIDENT would actually do anything, because they are political cvnts?

Through three administrations, the script has remained the same: America brokers talks in which the parties reach compromises on the issues of Jerusalem, borders, refugees, settlements, and security, at which point an agreement is signed and everyone involved receives the Nobel Peace Prize and recognition in history as consequential statesmen. Needless to say, this script hasn’t worked. There is not a single issue on which the two sides have ever come close to reaching an agreement.

But for the peace process guild, that’s not a problem. The important thing is to keep trying, to remain guardians of the issue, and to treat alternative approaches with so much contempt and ridicule that they are never given serious consideration.

In recognizing Jerusalem, Trump is showing that this tired script need not be followed—and that this tired guild need not be obeyed. The peace process community correctly recognizes that Trump’s announcement is not just a policy change, but an attack on their authority. And so they are desperate for it to fail, and one senses based on their breathless tweeting over the past few days that many in this community would experience enormous schadenfreude should the coming days be marked by rioting and terror. Any other outcome makes them look like fearmongers, and delegitimizes the other counsel they dispense.

Who gives a rats ass where the capital of Israel is? The only thing it's done--is we have protest and riots going on in the middle east--our allies are totally against it, even Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster told Trump not to do this. The UK--and all of Europe are putting out warnings, terrorists alerts have gone through the roof. So if anyone is killed you can blame your Ass Clown.

The State department put out an immediate warning for any Americans traveling in the area.

Trump is a fucking moron! There's no question about it.

Why did he do it against all advise from foreign policy experts?

To appease his stupid fucking moron supporters. He made a campaign promise and while his administration is burning down to the ground he's going to blow up the middle east--to distract attention away from these Russian investigations.

You really couldn't have found a worse President than Trump, if you had gone out on a midnight scavenger hunt in search of one.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Nobody is using nukes.

They don't have to be used by governments in war tomorrow to both upset the balance and be a present and future threat to us, to our allies, and to our interests. I get it, you don't give a shit. Nukes for everyone in the Middle east! And ignore the sectarian and religious strife, it will take care of itself! What could possibly go wrong?

...well, besides global depression and widespread war. But hey, not in your backyard, amiright? See, that's where you're wrong. You will feel it.

And you could not be more wrong to call me some sort of shill for the military complex. I think we can accomplish the things I hope for without the military being so bloated, and even without firing a single shot.

The problem I have with our involvement in that region and in other regions is that we have artificially maintained the peace, when no one would keep it fi we left. We are the big bully keeping the little bastards from fighting. By playing cops, we are committing ourselves to eternal babysitting....at our expense.

Sure, a big war would destabilize everything, but balance would be restored without our artificial protection and oversight. We ARE the monkey wrench.

"Balance" would be restored? Like, that one time in the Middle East.....never?

The only solution is the Two State Solution and if people listened to The Donald's comments he reaffirmed his commitment to the Two State Solution basically everyone supports it.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Days of Media Rage about Jerusalem

Wasn't that our CLAIMED policy for decades, but no PRESIDENT would actually do anything, because they are political cvnts?

Through three administrations, the script has remained the same: America brokers talks in which the parties reach compromises on the issues of Jerusalem, borders, refugees, settlements, and security, at which point an agreement is signed and everyone involved receives the Nobel Peace Prize and recognition in history as consequential statesmen. Needless to say, this script hasn’t worked. There is not a single issue on which the two sides have ever come close to reaching an agreement.

But for the peace process guild, that’s not a problem. The important thing is to keep trying, to remain guardians of the issue, and to treat alternative approaches with so much contempt and ridicule that they are never given serious consideration.

In recognizing Jerusalem, Trump is showing that this tired script need not be followed—and that this tired guild need not be obeyed. The peace process community correctly recognizes that Trump’s announcement is not just a policy change, but an attack on their authority. And so they are desperate for it to fail, and one senses based on their breathless tweeting over the past few days that many in this community would experience enormous schadenfreude should the coming days be marked by rioting and terror. Any other outcome makes them look like fearmongers, and delegitimizes the other counsel they dispense.

Who gives a rats ass where the capital of Israel is? The only thing it's done--is we have protest and riots going on in the middle east--our allies are totally against it, even Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster told Trump not to do this. The UK--and all of Europe are putting out warnings, terrorists alerts have gone through the roof. So if anyone is killed you can blame your Ass Clown.

The State department put out an immediate warning for any Americans traveling in the area.

Trump is a fucking moron! There's no question about it.

Why did he do it against all advise from foreign policy experts?

To appease his stupid fucking moron supporters. He made campaign a promise and while his administration is burning down to the ground he's going to blow up the middle east.

"The only thing it's done--is we have protest and riots going on in the middle east--our allies are totally against it, even Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster told Trump not to do this."

I like The Donald but this is a very bad and potentially catastrophic decision and I'm not going to say it's a good decision just because I like The Donald, if Tillerson and McMaster told him not to do it he shouldn't, I suppose his idiot son in law Jared Kushner and Ivanka had some role in this decision.

I already posted in this thread that the potential ramifications of such a decision have not been thought about, if the SHTF because of this it's going to hit it x 100000.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The only solution is the Two State Solution and if people listened to The Donald's comments he reaffirmed his commitment to the Two State Solution basically everyone supports it.

They are still squabbling over borders, are they not?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The only solution is the Two State Solution and if people listened to The Donald's comments he reaffirmed his commitment to the Two State Solution basically everyone supports it.

They are still squabbling over borders, are they not?

Yes that's still happening, maybe neither side want peace maybe they just enjoy in some bizarro way arguing with each other.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Yes that's still happening, maybe neither side want peace maybe they just enjoy in some bizarro way arguing with each other.

They do.

Why not just let them fight it out? Let the chips fall where they may. Sit back, pop some corn, and enjoy the show?

 

[oreo]

Days of Media Rage about Jerusalem

Wasn't that our CLAIMED policy for decades, but no PRESIDENT would actually do anything, because they are political cvnts?

Through three administrations, the script has remained the same: America brokers talks in which the parties reach compromises on the issues of Jerusalem, borders, refugees, settlements, and security, at which point an agreement is signed and everyone involved receives the Nobel Peace Prize and recognition in history as consequential statesmen. Needless to say, this script hasn’t worked. There is not a single issue on which the two sides have ever come close to reaching an agreement.

But for the peace process guild, that’s not a problem. The important thing is to keep trying, to remain guardians of the issue, and to treat alternative approaches with so much contempt and ridicule that they are never given serious consideration.

In recognizing Jerusalem, Trump is showing that this tired script need not be followed—and that this tired guild need not be obeyed. The peace process community correctly recognizes that Trump’s announcement is not just a policy change, but an attack on their authority. And so they are desperate for it to fail, and one senses based on their breathless tweeting over the past few days that many in this community would experience enormous schadenfreude should the coming days be marked by rioting and terror. Any other outcome makes them look like fearmongers, and delegitimizes the other counsel they dispense.

Who gives a rats ass where the capital of Israel is? The only thing it's done--is we have protest and riots going on in the middle east--our allies are totally against it, even Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster told Trump not to do this. The UK--and all of Europe are putting out warnings, terrorists alerts have gone through the roof. So if anyone is killed you can blame your Ass Clown.

The State department put out an immediate warning for any Americans traveling in the area.

Trump is a fucking moron! There's no question about it.

Why did he do it against all advise from foreign policy experts?

To appease his stupid fucking moron supporters. He made campaign a promise and while his administration is burning down to the ground he's going to blow up the middle east.

"The only thing it's done--is we have protest and riots going on in the middle east--our allies are totally against it, even Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster told Trump not to do this."

I like The Donald but this is a very bad and potentially catastrophic decision and I'm not going to say it's a good decision just because I like The Donald, if Tillerson and McMaster told him not to do it he shouldn't, I suppose his idiot son in law Jared Kushner and Ivanka had some role in this decision.

I already posted in this thread that the potential ramifications of such a decision have not been thought about, if the SHTF because of this it's going to hit it x 100000.

Of course it will, Trump opened the door to a lot of innocent people getting killed over this and everyone knows he will be to blame for it.

This again was to distract from these Russian investigations. He has done this repeatedly when he knows "big news" is coming out on these Russian investigations.

I imagine this one has something to do with Robert Mueller who subpoena'd Trump's banking records from Deutsche, that came out yesterday.

DEUTSCHE BANK

When Rachel Maddow bring uses the sharpy in this video, (as an example) think about all of Trump's hotel's, golf courses and casino's he owns around the world.



Trump is owned by Russian Oligarch's.

 

[oreo]

Yes that's still happening, maybe neither side want peace maybe they just enjoy in some bizarro way arguing with each other.

They do.

Why not just let them fight it out? Let the chips fall where they may. Sit back, pop some corn, and enjoy the show?

ISIS just got a new recruitment tool to attack innocent people in Europe and here in the United States. So when the blood spills we know who to blame.

Your Ass Clown

Every foreign policy expert, including H.R. McMaster, Rex Tillerson told him not to do this. Our allies told him not to do this, they're having an emergency UN Security meeting about this.

Terror alerts have gone up across Europe--travel warnings are out in force for Americans.

Congratulations for electing the worst President in this nations history. The ONLY reason he went against the advice of all these people is to try and distract from these Russian investigations, and what better place to do that than to blow up the Middle East.

 

[Issa]

As a Muslim i can tell you this is gonna be a turning point in US Muslim world relationship. I have never seen stronger opposition and condemnation towards the US like this before.
Trump to please his son in law and buddies he open the gates of endless problems. I don't think he knows that it's one of the holliest lands for Muslims.
This is insane and very damaging to the US and also its allies that trying to fight the terrorists. Now these nuts will have recruits so easy they don't even have to recruit them.
Also Muslim will gear towards Russia and China pack as they started already.
Trump is Allienating the US and creating way too many enemies.

 

[Issa]

Days of Media Rage about Jerusalem

Wasn't that our CLAIMED policy for decade, but no PRESIDENT would actually do anything, because they are political cvnts?

Through three administrations, the script has remained the same: America brokers talks in which the parties reach compromises on the issues of Jerusalem, borders, refugees, settlements, and security, at which point an agreement is signed and everyone involved receives the Nobel Peace Prize and recognition in history as consequential statesmen. Needless to say, this script hasn’t worked. There is not a single issue on which the two sides have ever come close to reaching an agreement.

But for the peace process guild, that’s not a problem. The important thing is to keep trying, to remain guardians of the issue, and to treat alternative approaches with so much contempt and ridicule that they are never given serious consideration.

In recognizing Jerusalem, Trump is showing that this tired script need not be followed—and that this tired guild need not be obeyed. The peace process community correctly recognizes that Trump’s announcement is not just a policy change, but an attack on their authority. And so they are desperate for it to fail, and one senses based on their breathless tweeting over the past few days that many in this community would experience enormous schadenfreude should the coming days be marked by rioting and terror. Any other outcome makes them look like fearmongers, and delegitimizes the other counsel they dispense.

Jerusalem is for EVERYONE it's for Christians, Muslims and Jews.

But who cares the American Evangelical Christian maniacs are masturbating because it cannot be much longer before something is deliberately demolished and The Third Temple that never was is rebuilt and THE RAPTURE THE RAPTURE and then The Anti Christ and then Armageddon and then Jesus is returning.

This below is the target to be deliberately demolished in some way, so The Third Temple that never was can be rebuilt all ready for the time that The Anti-Christ walks into it and declares himself Jesus Christ:

The rest of Western Civilisation do not have these crazy Holy Rollers like America has.

And that's why America should stay the fuck out of these things because you have those crazy Holy Rollers who's wet dream is The Rapture and Armageddon, um they don't read The Bible correctly because there is nothing in The Bible that says a pre-Armaggeddon Rapture happens.

If that all happens I pray I stick around because I want to see all the crazy Holy Rollers being thrown into the Lake of Fire with The Anti Christ they are going to follow thinking it's Jesus Christ because they who deny Jesus Christ HIMSELF are going to tell them THIS man here is THE Jesus Christ OUR Messiah that we have been waiting for and the Holy Rollers being brainwashed morons will eat it up.

Who are the Holy Rollers already listening to....beware the antichrists who await The Anti-Christ who they will declare as Jesus Christ and their Messiah and it's NOT the SAME Jesus Christ who died on the Cross:

John 2:22

"Who is a liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is an antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son."

^^^^ Think it is not rocket science who are they who deny that Jesus is the Christ, that Jesus that died on the Cross was THE ONLY Messiah.

John 2:23

"No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well."

^^^^ It's telling you IF you deny the Son ie. deny Jesus Christ who died on the Cross and was and IS the ONLY Messiah then the Father ie. God is NOT with YOU and if God is not with YOU you are of The Anti-Christ ie. Satan. It is telling you if you accept the Son ie. accept that Jesus Christ who died on the Cross was and IS the ONLY Messiah then the Father ie. God is with you.

The Holy Rollers are going to Hell because they have already been seduced by the spirit of The Anti-Christ and they will burn Eternally in Hell because they have been siding with and side with they who deny Jesus Christ Himself and thus do not have God with them.

That is all in The Bible in those two passages I have posted, anyone who thinks they are Christian ie. a believer and a follower of Jesus Christ The Messiah cannot interpret the above in any other way as we are taught that we cannot interpret Our Lords teachings to fit our own narrow political purposes. His word is His word. Period.

Just so we are clear, ISLAM denies Christ.

And anyone who is a true believer in Christ will not follow The Anti Christ.

They will choose to be beheaded and tortured before they worship him or accept his mark.

I will agree with one thing. There is nothing in scripture that guarantees a pre-tribulation rapture. There are some interpretations that this could occur, and there are two lines of thought on this. Post tribulation rapture, & pre-tribulation rapture.

No need to go in to this, but both lines of thought can be somewhat supported....but there are no guarantees. Believers and Non Believers alike may have to experience a time when the world turns wicked more violent, Evil and sinful, and literally becomes Hell on Earth with Lucifer making his last stand against God, his Church, and God's Children, and most of the world with him.

Yet, in the end he is defeated, and this ushers in a new age of peace, prosperity, and harmony under the millenial reign of Christ.

We Muslims believe in Jesus as a messenger of God and Mary the virgin and we can't be Muslims if we don't believe that and of we don't believe in the messiah.

 

[Issa]

What Trump has done is offer the Middle East a path for peaceful
solution.

For 22 years we've pissed around with this two-state solution stuff.
We've allowed Palestine to dictate the narrative. Bull Shit, that game is
over.

If they want a two-state solution, they are going to do what we've instructed
them to do. Dump Hamas...Dump Hezbollah...Dump the defato Iran...and announce to the world that Israel has a right to exist.

Once we've moved our embassy, that place will belong to Israel forever
more and those Arabs know it.

Shit or get off the pot folks, the USA is threw fuckin' with ya.

Go ahead and bitch and moan for a couple of days...then get to the
bargaining table. The UN can't help you now. President Zero is long
gone. Anything you can contrive we will veto.

It's our way or the Nomad way...the choice is yours.

Long Live the Donald

Naaaaah the wheel turns around baby. The US is slowly losing its grip on the world, we are bankrupt and we are ruled by Israel....we fight their wars, we give them billions of dollars, we use our veto for them....while they spie on us, still our secrets and give us the finger when they feel like it. While our people here in the US are living in the streets, and while our veterans are suffering.

 

[oreo]

As a Muslim i can tell you this is gonna be a turning point in US Muslim world relationship. I have never seen stronger opposition and condemnation towards the US like this before.
Trump to please his son in law and buddies he open the gates of endless problems. I don't think he knows that it's one of the holliest lands for Muslims.
This is insane and very damaging to the US and also its allies that trying to fight the terrorists. Now these nuts will have recruits so easy they don't even have to recruit them.
Also Muslim will gear towards Russia and China pack as they started already.
Trump is Allienating the US and creating way too many enemies.

Everyone in the White House, Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster--NONE of them agreed to this, in fact they advised him against it.

Trump is doing it to distract from these Russian investigations. It's not going to happen anyway. It doesn't happen for 4 years, and by then there will be another President that will go back to square one.

Unfortunately there will be innocent people killed over Trump's attempt to distract attention away from these Russian investigations.



Trump is incompetent--he was never qualified to be POTUS.

 

[Issa]

As a Muslim i can tell you this is gonna be a turning point in US Muslim world relationship. I have never seen stronger opposition and condemnation towards the US like this before.
Trump to please his son in law and buddies he open the gates of endless problems. I don't think he knows that it's one of the holliest lands for Muslims.
This is insane and very damaging to the US and also its allies that trying to fight the terrorists. Now these nuts will have recruits so easy they don't even have to recruit them.
Also Muslim will gear towards Russia and China pack as they started already.
Trump is Allienating the US and creating way too many enemies.

Everyone in the White House, Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster--NONE of them agreed to this, in fact they advised him against it.

Trump is doing it to distract from these Russian investigations. It's not going to happen anyway. It doesn't happen for 4 years, and by then there will be another President that will go back to square one.

Unfortunately there will be innocent people killed over Trump's attempt to distract attention away from these Russian investigations.

Not only terrorism. Muslim countries under popular pressure they will be forced to change their alliance with the US....things are very gloomy.....jerusalem is very sacred to the Muslim world.....trump fucked up big time.

 

[Issa]

Because we are the main brokers of the peace negotiations, of course. Come on man, this is "Middle East 101" material.

BULLSHIT!

We don't have to do a GODDAMN THING!!!

Let them beat the fuck out of each other until somebody FINALLY surrenders FOREVER.

Why can't we just let these assholes fuck each other up until they are all dead. It will cost us billions less.

Because we are Israel's and Saudi Arabia's bitch.

 

[oreo]

As a Muslim i can tell you this is gonna be a turning point in US Muslim world relationship. I have never seen stronger opposition and condemnation towards the US like this before.
Trump to please his son in law and buddies he open the gates of endless problems. I don't think he knows that it's one of the holliest lands for Muslims.
This is insane and very damaging to the US and also its allies that trying to fight the terrorists. Now these nuts will have recruits so easy they don't even have to recruit them.
Also Muslim will gear towards Russia and China pack as they started already.
Trump is Allienating the US and creating way too many enemies.

Everyone in the White House, Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster--NONE of them agreed to this, in fact they advised him against it.

Trump is doing it to distract from these Russian investigations. It's not going to happen anyway. It doesn't happen for 4 years, and by then there will be another President that will go back to square one.

Unfortunately there will be innocent people killed over Trump's attempt to distract attention away from these Russian investigations.

Not only terrorism. Muslim countries under popular pressure they will be forced to change their alliance with the US....things are very gloomy.....jerusalem is very sacred to the Muslim world.....trump fucked up big time.

Oh Yeah, our allies in the middle east, Jordan & Saudi Arabia, Kuwait--all of them are horrified over this. They're actually holding an emergency security UN member union over what the Ass Clown just did.

The UK has put out terrorist alert warnings, the State department has put out several travel warnings for Americans.

The only one that is happy about it is the Israeli prime minister & the Ass Clown.

 

[Issa]

As a Muslim i can tell you this is gonna be a turning point in US Muslim world relationship. I have never seen stronger opposition and condemnation towards the US like this before.
Trump to please his son in law and buddies he open the gates of endless problems. I don't think he knows that it's one of the holliest lands for Muslims.
This is insane and very damaging to the US and also its allies that trying to fight the terrorists. Now these nuts will have recruits so easy they don't even have to recruit them.
Also Muslim will gear towards Russia and China pack as they started already.
Trump is Allienating the US and creating way too many enemies.

Everyone in the White House, Rex Tillerson, H.R. McMaster--NONE of them agreed to this, in fact they advised him against it.

Trump is doing it to distract from these Russian investigations. It's not going to happen anyway. It doesn't happen for 4 years, and by then there will be another President that will go back to square one.

Unfortunately there will be innocent people killed over Trump's attempt to distract attention away from these Russian investigations.

Not only terrorism. Muslim countries under popular pressure they will be forced to change their alliance with the US....things are very gloomy.....jerusalem is very sacred to the Muslim world.....trump fucked up big time.

Oh Yeah, our allies in the middle east, Jordan & Saudi Arabia, Kuwait--all of them are horrified over this. They're actually holding an emergency security UN member union over what the Ass Clown just did.

The UK has put out terrorist alert warnings, the State department has put out several travel warnings for Americans.

The only one that is happy about it is the Israeli prime minister.

Mark my words this is gonna be a huge turning point in the Muslim world's relation with the US. I come from Morocco a Muslim country that was the oldest ally to the US, and the first country to recognize its independence, what echo after trumps presidency, is Morocco leaning towards Asia especially China. Trump idiocy is killing the US in a very rapid speed.

 

[asaratis]

Days of Media Rage about Jerusalem

Wasn't that our CLAIMED policy for decade, but no PRESIDENT would actually do anything, because they are political cvnts?

Through three administrations, the script has remained the same: America brokers talks in which the parties reach compromises on the issues of Jerusalem, borders, refugees, settlements, and security, at which point an agreement is signed and everyone involved receives the Nobel Peace Prize and recognition in history as consequential statesmen. Needless to say, this script hasn’t worked. There is not a single issue on which the two sides have ever come close to reaching an agreement.

But for the peace process guild, that’s not a problem. The important thing is to keep trying, to remain guardians of the issue, and to treat alternative approaches with so much contempt and ridicule that they are never given serious consideration.

In recognizing Jerusalem, Trump is showing that this tired script need not be followed—and that this tired guild need not be obeyed. The peace process community correctly recognizes that Trump’s announcement is not just a policy change, but an attack on their authority. And so they are desperate for it to fail, and one senses based on their breathless tweeting over the past few days that many in this community would experience enormous schadenfreude should the coming days be marked by rioting and terror. Any other outcome makes them look like fearmongers, and delegitimizes the other counsel they dispense.

Jerusalem is for EVERYONE it's for Christians, Muslims and Jews.

But who cares the American Evangelical Christian maniacs are masturbating because it cannot be much longer before something is deliberately demolished and The Third Temple that never was is rebuilt and THE RAPTURE THE RAPTURE and then The Anti Christ and then Armageddon and then Jesus is returning.

This below is the target to be deliberately demolished in some way, so The Third Temple that never was can be rebuilt all ready for the time that The Anti-Christ walks into it and declares himself Jesus Christ:

The rest of Western Civilisation do not have these crazy Holy Rollers like America has.

And that's why America should stay the fuck out of these things because you have those crazy Holy Rollers who's wet dream is The Rapture and Armageddon, um they don't read The Bible correctly because there is nothing in The Bible that says a pre-Armaggeddon Rapture happens.

If that all happens I pray I stick around because I want to see all the crazy Holy Rollers being thrown into the Lake of Fire with The Anti Christ they are going to follow thinking it's Jesus Christ because they who deny Jesus Christ HIMSELF are going to tell them THIS man here is THE Jesus Christ OUR Messiah that we have been waiting for and the Holy Rollers being brainwashed morons will eat it up.

Who are the Holy Rollers already listening to....beware the antichrists who await The Anti-Christ who they will declare as Jesus Christ and their Messiah and it's NOT the SAME Jesus Christ who died on the Cross:

John 2:22

"Who is a liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is an antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son."

^^^^ Think it is not rocket science who are they who deny that Jesus is the Christ, that Jesus that died on the Cross was THE ONLY Messiah.

John 2:23

"No one who denies the Son can have the Father; he who confesses the Son has the Father as well."

^^^^ It's telling you IF you deny the Son ie. deny Jesus Christ who died on the Cross and was and IS the ONLY Messiah then the Father ie. God is NOT with YOU and if God is not with YOU you are of The Anti-Christ ie. Satan. It is telling you if you accept the Son ie. accept that Jesus Christ who died on the Cross was and IS the ONLY Messiah then the Father ie. God is with you.

The Holy Rollers are going to Hell because they have already been seduced by the spirit of The Anti-Christ and they will burn Eternally in Hell because they have been siding with and side with they who deny Jesus Christ Himself and thus do not have God with them.

That is all in The Bible in those two passages I have posted, anyone who thinks they are Christian ie. a believer and a follower of Jesus Christ The Messiah cannot interpret the above in any other way as we are taught that we cannot interpret Our Lords teachings to fit our own narrow political purposes. His word is His word. Period.

I'm a little confused. Other countries do not have religious extremists that pervert religion?

To my knowledge, Islam is the only religion whose perverted radicals call for the death of non-believers. If you know of others, please enlighten me.