Who was the most racist President?

[rightwinger]

Seems tot me if one wanted to make the case that Japanese internment was race-based rather than nationality and suspected loyalties, one would have to show a pattern before the war and Pearl Harbor attack.

In other words if FDR had a thing against Asians, why waksn't he already locking them up all through the 1930s?

After Pearl Harbor, America was on an anti-Japanese fervor. Japan was an evil empire with its subjects loyal only to the emperor. FDR followed the advice of his military advisors and governors in states with large Japanese populations

With the strange but notable exception of Hawaìi.

Also worth noting that FDR's original executive order made no mention of "Japanese" at all. It simply established military zones from which people (any people designated by the local commander) could be excluded.

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

 

[Polishprince]

Seems tot me if one wanted to make the case that Japanese internment was race-based rather than nationality and suspected loyalties, one would have to show a pattern before the war and Pearl Harbor attack.

In other words if FDR had a thing against Asians, why waksn't he already locking them up all through the 1930s?

After Pearl Harbor, America was on an anti-Japanese fervor. Japan was an evil empire with its subjects loyal only to the emperor. FDR followed the advice of his military advisors and governors in states with large Japanese populations

With the strange but notable exception of Hawaìi.

Also worth noting that FDR's original executive order made no mention of "Japanese" at all. It simply established military zones from which people (any people designated by the local commander) could be excluded.

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

Perhaps not. But after Warren was appointed to the court, a lot of people wanted to have him Impeached and had billboard erected to advocate for that.

 

[Unkotare]

...FDR followed the advice of his military advisors ....

Another historian who never heard of the Ringle report.

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

 

[Unkotare]

Seems tot me if one wanted to make the case that Japanese internment was race-based rather than nationality and suspected loyalties, one would have to show a pattern before the war and Pearl Harbor attack.

In other words if FDR had a thing against Asians, why waksn't he already locking them up all through the 1930s?

After Pearl Harbor, America was on an anti-Japanese fervor. Japan was an evil empire with its subjects loyal only to the emperor. FDR followed the advice of his military advisors and governors in states with large Japanese populations

With the strange but notable exception of Hawaìi.

Also worth noting that FDR's original executive order made no mention of "Japanese" at all. It simply established military zones from which people (any people designated by the local commander) could be excluded.

Interesting exception

Maybe because the Japanese population was too large, maybe because they were not a state

Or maybe because fdr’s buddies weren’t trying to steal their farms?

 

[rightwinger]

...FDR followed the advice of his military advisors ....

Another historian who never heard of the Ringle report.

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

 

[Unkotare]

...FDR followed the advice of his military advisors ....

Another historian who never heard of the Ringle report.

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

 

[rightwinger]

...FDR followed the advice of his military advisors ....

Another historian who never heard of the Ringle report.

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

 

[Pogo]

After Pearl Harbor, America was on an anti-Japanese fervor. Japan was an evil empire with its subjects loyal only to the emperor. FDR followed the advice of his military advisors and governors in states with large Japanese populations

With the strange but notable exception of Hawaìi.

Also worth noting that FDR's original executive order made no mention of "Japanese" at all. It simply established military zones from which people (any people designated by the local commander) could be excluded.

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

Perhaps not. But after Warren was appointed to the court, a lot of people wanted to have him Impeached and had billboard erected to advocate for that.

Because of anything having to do with Japanese internment?

Doooooooooooon't think so.

As you can see, it was because he didn't see a problem with "race mongrelization". Thus spake the John Birch wacko fringe.

Nice try, unfortunately I remember those posters.

 

[Pogo]

Another historian who never heard of the Ringle report.

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

Including Germans and Italians, which I'm pretty sure were still the same race as FDR.

 

[Polishprince]

With the strange but notable exception of Hawaìi.

Also worth noting that FDR's original executive order made no mention of "Japanese" at all. It simply established military zones from which people (any people designated by the local commander) could be excluded.

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

Perhaps not. But after Warren was appointed to the court, a lot of people wanted to have him Impeached and had billboard erected to advocate for that.

Because of anything having to do with Japanese internment?

Doooooooooooon't think so.

As you can see, it was because he didn't see a problem with "race mongrelization". Thus spake the John Birch wacko fringe.

Nice try, unfortunately I remember those posters.

Actually, it was the libs who didn't care for Republican Warren. Remember, segregation was a big liberal idea, back in the day

 

[Pogo]

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

Perhaps not. But after Warren was appointed to the court, a lot of people wanted to have him Impeached and had billboard erected to advocate for that.

Because of anything having to do with Japanese internment?

Doooooooooooon't think so.

As you can see, it was because he didn't see a problem with "race mongrelization". Thus spake the John Birch wacko fringe.

Nice try, unfortunately I remember those posters.

Actually, it was the libs who didn't care for Republican Warren. Remember, segregation was a big liberal idea, back in the day

Segregation has NEVER been a Liberal idea, ever. The two are mutually exclusive. Oil and water.

What a dumbass. No wonder you're on Ignore.

It was the freako John Birchers with their racist bullshit who put those posters up, Dumbass.

 

[rightwinger]

Hawaii wasn't a state in 1941

Neither was Alaska but Japanese -- the few there were -- got moved there.

I mention Hawaìi because of its huge Japanese population. If you're not aware it's common even today to hear Japanese commonly spoken in everyday Hawaìi. There was even an incident where some Japanese-Hawaiians helped one of the Pearl Harbor pilots who crash-landed, which would have been right up the alley of the pretext for isolation, yet very few got quarantined.

Governor Earl Warren of California (future Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) specifically requested that Japanese residents be interred

Didn’t seem to impact his future appointment to the Court

Perhaps not. But after Warren was appointed to the court, a lot of people wanted to have him Impeached and had billboard erected to advocate for that.

Because of anything having to do with Japanese internment?

Doooooooooooon't think so.

As you can see, it was because he didn't see a problem with "race mongrelization". Thus spake the John Birch wacko fringe.

Nice try, unfortunately I remember those posters.

Actually, it was the libs who didn't care for Republican Warren. Remember, segregation was a big liberal idea, back in the day

You seem to have confused liberalism and conservatism

It was liberals who ended segregation. Conservatives do not support those laws to this day

 

[Unkotare]

FDR kept us safe

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

Including Germans and Italians, which I'm pretty sure were still the same race as FDR.

At the outset of WWII, 1.2 million US residents had been born in Germany, 5 million had two German-born parents, 6 million had one German-born parent, and many, many millions more had other German ancestry. German was, as it is, the most common ethnic heritage among Americans. Many German-Americans openly supported Nazism, and during the war German Americans in several instances did in fact engage in espionage and sabotage. Despite all this, only about 11,000 people of German ancestry, the vast majority German nationals and only after investigation of individual cases, were detained during the war. If the vile apologists would suggest that the POS fdr was not acting out of racist hatred, how do they explain that an actual, verified national threat was not removed en mass from one coast in sharp contrast to another group of Americans (who didn't look so much like fdr) who were thrown indiscriminately into concentration camps for the 'crime' of being of a certain ethnicity. Before WWII, approximately 127,000 Japanese Americans lived in the US. 120,000 innocent people were thrown into fdr's concentration camps. Any attempt to let that son of a bitch off the hook by pointing to German or Italian Americans is disingenuous bullshit, and any honest person would admit it.

 

[Unkotare]

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Segregation has NEVER been a Liberal idea, ever. ....

It has ALWAYS been a liberal idea. ALWAYS.

 

[Pogo]

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

Including Germans and Italians, which I'm pretty sure were still the same race as FDR.

At the outset of WWII, 1.2 million US residents had been born in Germany, 5 million had two German-born parents, 6 million had one German-born parent, and many, many millions more had other German ancestry. German was, as it is, the most common ethnic heritage among Americans. Many German-Americans openly supported Nazism, and during the war German Americans in several instances did in fact engage in espionage and sabotage. Despite all this, only about 11,000 people of German ancestry, the vast majority German nationals and only after investigation of individual cases, were detained during the war. If the vile apologists would suggest that the POS fdr was not acting out of racist hatred, how do they explain that an actual, verified national threat was not removed en mass from one coast in sharp contrast to another group of Americans (who didn't look so much like fdr). Before WWII, approximately 127,000 Japanese Americans lived in the US. 120,000 innocent people were thrown into fdr's concentration camps. Any attempt to let that son of a bitch off the hook by pointing to German or Italian Americans is disingenuous bullshit, and any honest person would admit it.

Actually it's already documented and confirmed. Yesterday, post 512.

Oooopsie.

 

[Unkotare]

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

Including Germans and Italians, which I'm pretty sure were still the same race as FDR.

At the outset of WWII, 1.2 million US residents had been born in Germany, 5 million had two German-born parents, 6 million had one German-born parent, and many, many millions more had other German ancestry. German was, as it is, the most common ethnic heritage among Americans. Many German-Americans openly supported Nazism, and during the war German Americans in several instances did in fact engage in espionage and sabotage. Despite all this, only about 11,000 people of German ancestry, the vast majority German nationals and only after investigation of individual cases, were detained during the war. If the vile apologists would suggest that the POS fdr was not acting out of racist hatred, how do they explain that an actual, verified national threat was not removed en mass from one coast in sharp contrast to another group of Americans (who didn't look so much like fdr). Before WWII, approximately 127,000 Japanese Americans lived in the US. 120,000 innocent people were thrown into fdr's concentration camps. Any attempt to let that son of a bitch off the hook by pointing to German or Italian Americans is disingenuous bullshit, and any honest person would admit it.

Actually it's already documented and confirmed. Yesterday, post 512.

Oooopsie.

What is? What facts do you imagine to be in dispute?

 

[Pogo]

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Segregation has NEVER been a Liberal idea, ever. ....

It has ALWAYS been a liberal idea. ALWAYS.

Another wag who took off the entire PoliSci course to go bowling.

The basic Liberal idea is, and I quote, "all men are created equal". Kindly show the class how you get segregation out of that.
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What an idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

From innocent, loyal Americans?

Potential terrorists and saboteurs
None were able to launch attacks for the duration of the war

Thanks FDR

Read the Ringle Report, you ignorant racist.

FDR followed the advice of most of America in believing Japanese citizens were a security threat. The Supreme Court backed him up
Most of the world had similar actions against citizens they thought were threats

Including Germans and Italians, which I'm pretty sure were still the same race as FDR.

At the outset of WWII, 1.2 million US residents had been born in Germany, 5 million had two German-born parents, 6 million had one German-born parent, and many, many millions more had other German ancestry. German was, as it is, the most common ethnic heritage among Americans. Many German-Americans openly supported Nazism, and during the war German Americans in several instances did in fact engage in espionage and sabotage. Despite all this, only about 11,000 people of German ancestry, the vast majority German nationals and only after investigation of individual cases, were detained during the war. If the vile apologists would suggest that the POS fdr was not acting out of racist hatred, how do they explain that an actual, verified national threat was not removed en mass from one coast in sharp contrast to another group of Americans (who didn't look so much like fdr) who were thrown indiscriminately into concentration camps for the 'crime' of being of a certain ethnicity. Before WWII, approximately 127,000 Japanese Americans lived in the US. 120,000 innocent people were thrown into fdr's concentration camps. Any attempt to let that son of a bitch off the hook by pointing to German or Italian Americans is disingenuous bullshit, and any honest person would admit it.

Japs bombed Pearl Harbor....You Lose

 

[rightwinger]

....

Segregation has NEVER been a Liberal idea, ever. ....

It has ALWAYS been a liberal idea. ALWAYS.

Another moron who doesn’t understand liberalism and conservatism

 

[Unkotare]

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The basic Liberal idea is, and I quote, "all men are created equal". ......

Liberals have proven over a long, long period of time through their own words and actions that they most certainly do NOT believe that. Liberals have worked long and hard to make damn sure people are divided by arbitrary groupings, which inherently implies distinction of kind and of value.

Don't tell me, show me. Liberals have SHOWN their true colors too often to pretend to be other than what is obvious to clear-minded people.