ChrisL
Diamond Member
The Patriots won because they have heart and they are determined, stubborn, well coached, talented, and I could go on.
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Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
And shut up anyways. Was I talking to you? No, I was not.
Maybe you should have stuck to the last 50 years. Lol. I haven't even heard of some of these players. We aren't all old farts, you know!
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
no, but if you watch football these people get mentioned all the time... and you don't have to go to school to read a book.
You do also understand that this was Super Bowl 51 right? So in the last 50 years all these players did play except Otto Graham.
^ This. Credit where due
Might want to put Eli Manning up for consideration as well. Without hitting David Tyrell on the helmet Brady would be 6-1
Lucky catch is all that was! Dumb luck is what you would call it!
Sort of like last night's catch?
No. Who caught a ball on top of his head?
Both were lucky.
The Patriots were not lucky. Everyone knows that the catch the Giants made was a LUCKY catch.
If there are people on that list you don't recognize, then you are just admitting that you aren't a very big sport fan and that your vote is a bit skewed. Only Otto Graham is too old to have played in a Super Bowl. All the rest have played QB in at least one Super Bowl or more, except Marino.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
no, but if you watch football these people get mentioned all the time... and you don't have to go to school to read a book.
You do also understand that this was Super Bowl 51 right? So in the last 50 years all these players did play except Otto Graham.
So? That doesn't mean I know who they are! Oh, does that mean I can't watch football or talk about it anymore? Puhleese.
How would I know about players who played before I was born?
Do you know who George Washington is?
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
no, but if you watch football these people get mentioned all the time... and you don't have to go to school to read a book.
You do also understand that this was Super Bowl 51 right? So in the last 50 years all these players did play except Otto Graham.
So? That doesn't mean I know who they are! Oh, does that mean I can't watch football or talk about it anymore? Puhleese.
If you don't know who they are, you are only guessing that Brady is the best.
Do you know who George Washington is?
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
no, but if you watch football these people get mentioned all the time... and you don't have to go to school to read a book.
You do also understand that this was Super Bowl 51 right? So in the last 50 years all these players did play except Otto Graham.
So? That doesn't mean I know who they are! Oh, does that mean I can't watch football or talk about it anymore? Puhleese.
If you don't know who they are, you are only guessing that Brady is the best.
And so are you since probably none of you have ever seen all quarterbacks play. Besides that, there is no comparing modern day quarterbacks with those from so long ago. The rules are completely different and everything is completely different.
You don't learn about football players in school, genius!
no, but if you watch football these people get mentioned all the time... and you don't have to go to school to read a book.
You do also understand that this was Super Bowl 51 right? So in the last 50 years all these players did play except Otto Graham.
So? That doesn't mean I know who they are! Oh, does that mean I can't watch football or talk about it anymore? Puhleese.
If you don't know who they are, you are only guessing that Brady is the best.
And so are you since probably none of you have ever seen all quarterbacks play. Besides that, there is no comparing modern day quarterbacks with those from so long ago. The rules are completely different and everything is completely different.
I have seen every QB on the list play except for Graham. That said, today's QBs have more protection from being hit, also the rules of the game have changed of the last several years that have made it more advantageous to favor a good passing attack over a running attack.
Today's QB is much more conditioned than the yesteryear. QBs today cannot go out and party all night and then play football. Had conditioning been a big part of the game years ago it would have been a different story on QBs.
Also a 65% pass completion was rare. Then you look a QBs like Fouts, Plunkett, Marino and Tarkenton and they had huge games and they would be 300 and 400 yd games and were rare.
A lot has changed, so who really was and is the best QB? Brady could be but Graham went to championship games every season as a pro, that counts for something. Brady won five in the era of parity.
Who is the Greatest Quarterback of All Time?
What is your criteria? Over the decades the game has changed and evolved, every era has had their greats. Who is the greatest? I listed 12 QB's not sure if I left anyone who could be considered as a top QB.
Make your case of who is the greatest.
Montana: Leadership, Control of Emotions, clock management, accuracy of passes, field of vision and the ability to run if and when necessary.
One example: In the final minutes of the 1989 Super Bowl Montana led an 11-play, 92-yard drive to score the winning touchdown. In order to calm his teammates in the huddle just before the final game-winning drive, Montana pointed into the stadium crowd and said "Hey, isn't that John Candy?"
Then and there he earned the nickname, Joe Cool.
So leading a team from 25 down and orchestrating a 91 yard drive to tie, isn't leadership and being calm under pressure?