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I think the Catholics are God's chosen people.
After all only the Catholics have a clear track record of killing Jews and Moosleems throughout the ages.
Pope Urban 2nd was right about the Crusades.
Even Adolf was Catholic.
Yes, I was allowed to defend myself but questioned the matter because I really did not want to have to shoot him. Not only would I have had that on my conscience which would be hard to overcome but it would have also made one hell of a mess.Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?
I believe if God is the creator of life he would value life and be moral, so the moral person in thought and deed would then be God's chosen.
God is a spiritual entity of love whose omnipresence is in all things that have life.
Moral or immoral is subjective.
1.based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, individual, emotional, instinctive, intuitive
"a subjective analysis"
Humankind is subjected to not only themselves but also there surroundings. Your choices concerning what is moral or immoral as a human may be different than mine. We could go back to that conversation we had not long ago on personal gun ownership. Should I shoot the rapist that has broke in to my house, that is on top of me saying he is going to rape me, or not? Personally I couldn't decide right away even though my left hand was gripping the gun, and ready as I considered it, and tried to convince him this wasn't something he really wanted to do. In my mind I was trying really hard considering it all and the thought, "Thou shalt not kill" repeatedly. It was something I was struggling with in the whole incident. Once I determined I wasn't going to allow him to go through with his repeated threats, as he became more adamant, and fierce sounding, I determined it was him or me, and if I did not protect myself he could decide afterwards to do even more damage, if he decided not to leave a witness to his crime.
Of course you are allowed to defend yourself, its a natural built in instinct ,self preservation. I do not think emotions are involved in morality. That is not an emotion but an instinctive reaction when you determined it was him or me.
I am sure you know what is moral and not. Its built in, unless ones upbringing was so faulty one becomes a sociopath.
Yes, I was allowed to defend myself but questioned the matter because I really did not want to have to shoot him. Not only would I have had that on my conscience which would be hard to overcome but it would have also made one hell of a mess.Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?
I believe if God is the creator of life he would value life and be moral, so the moral person in thought and deed would then be God's chosen.
God is a spiritual entity of love whose omnipresence is in all things that have life.
Moral or immoral is subjective.
1.based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, individual, emotional, instinctive, intuitive
"a subjective analysis"
Humankind is subjected to not only themselves but also there surroundings. Your choices concerning what is moral or immoral as a human may be different than mine. We could go back to that conversation we had not long ago on personal gun ownership. Should I shoot the rapist that has broke in to my house, that is on top of me saying he is going to rape me, or not? Personally I couldn't decide right away even though my left hand was gripping the gun, and ready as I considered it, and tried to convince him this wasn't something he really wanted to do. In my mind I was trying really hard considering it all and the thought, "Thou shalt not kill" repeatedly. It was something I was struggling with in the whole incident. Once I determined I wasn't going to allow him to go through with his repeated threats, as he became more adamant, and fierce sounding, I determined it was him or me, and if I did not protect myself he could decide afterwards to do even more damage, if he decided not to leave a witness to his crime.
Of course you are allowed to defend yourself, its a natural built in instinct ,self preservation. I do not think emotions are involved in morality. That is not an emotion but an instinctive reaction when you determined it was him or me.
I am sure you know what is moral and not. Its built in, unless ones upbringing was so faulty one becomes a sociopath.
Per instincts we have two sides in that, one a spiritual side that is from the breath of God, and the carnal side which is that portion made of earth (dust, carnal being-beastly portion, that son of perdition portion of us). Thankfully that day the spiritual side was stronger than the carnal side or a young man would have been dead, and I would have had a mess in my house, along with the guilt I would have had. Shame is not easy to overcome.
A lot of reasons and factors that people can grow up to act like or be sociopaths so I'll save that discussion for another day.
That is what was so hard for me in making that call back then. The pistol was slid down beside the mattress and wooden waterbed frame. I tried and tried to talk him into getting off of me as I had reached my left arm down and had the pistol worked around in my hand and ready to pull up and shoot. I only weighed 98lbs and he was a pretty good size healthy young man. At the point where I knew his anger was growing intensely and I was left with only one of two options, either shoot him or take that chance of him raping me and doing me in and possibly hurting my children who were still asleep in their bedrooms, I pulled the gun up and put it to his temple and said, "Get your ass off of me or I am going to blow it away". He didn't jump, he literally flew off of me and landed about six feet from the end of the bed. He stood there trembling as he said, "I was just kidding". I told him not something he should kid about. A few other things were said and I told him, "now get out!" It was about two years later he stopped me on the sidewalk as I was going into a store in a town nearby. He asked, "Hey do you remember me?" I was thinking, 'Yeah you little prick how could I forget'. He pleaded with me to let me show him something. It took a lot of "please" from him but I finally relented and walked up the street about a block with him. He had me stand on the sidewalk as he went into the little cafe, asking me, 'please, just wait here for a second'. He came back out with a beautiful little girl in his arms. He told me she was his little girl, how he took her to Sunday school every week. Then he started thanking me for saving him. I told him "thank God, I was going to shoot your ass".Yes, I was allowed to defend myself but questioned the matter because I really did not want to have to shoot him. Not only would I have had that on my conscience which would be hard to overcome but it would have also made one hell of a mess.Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?
I believe if God is the creator of life he would value life and be moral, so the moral person in thought and deed would then be God's chosen.
God is a spiritual entity of love whose omnipresence is in all things that have life.
Moral or immoral is subjective.
1.based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, individual, emotional, instinctive, intuitive
"a subjective analysis"
Humankind is subjected to not only themselves but also there surroundings. Your choices concerning what is moral or immoral as a human may be different than mine. We could go back to that conversation we had not long ago on personal gun ownership. Should I shoot the rapist that has broke in to my house, that is on top of me saying he is going to rape me, or not? Personally I couldn't decide right away even though my left hand was gripping the gun, and ready as I considered it, and tried to convince him this wasn't something he really wanted to do. In my mind I was trying really hard considering it all and the thought, "Thou shalt not kill" repeatedly. It was something I was struggling with in the whole incident. Once I determined I wasn't going to allow him to go through with his repeated threats, as he became more adamant, and fierce sounding, I determined it was him or me, and if I did not protect myself he could decide afterwards to do even more damage, if he decided not to leave a witness to his crime.
Of course you are allowed to defend yourself, its a natural built in instinct ,self preservation. I do not think emotions are involved in morality. That is not an emotion but an instinctive reaction when you determined it was him or me.
I am sure you know what is moral and not. Its built in, unless ones upbringing was so faulty one becomes a sociopath.
Per instincts we have two sides in that, one a spiritual side that is from the breath of God, and the carnal side which is that portion made of earth (dust, carnal being-beastly portion, that son of perdition portion of us). Thankfully that day the spiritual side was stronger than the carnal side or a young man would have been dead, and I would have had a mess in my house, along with the guilt I would have had. Shame is not easy to overcome.
A lot of reasons and factors that people can grow up to act like or be sociopaths so I'll save that discussion for another day.
So you would rather of been killed that to kill another human being?
Blessed are the poor.And it is certainly not African Negroes since they are dirt poor and starving all the time.The question crossed my mind as I read through so many claims from so many different groups. Who do you think are the chosen and why do you think that?
I would be interested to hear the different opinions.
And infested with AIDS from eating monkey meat.
All believers are adopted as Children of Abraham. Making them heirs of salvation.The question crossed my mind as I read through so many claims from so many different groups. Who do you think are the chosen and why do you think that?
I would be interested to hear the different opinions.
That is what was so hard for me in making that call back then. The pistol was slid down beside the mattress and wooden waterbed frame. I tried and tried to talk him into getting off of me as I had reached my left arm down and had the pistol worked around in my hand and ready to pull up and shoot. I only weighed 98lbs and he was a pretty good size healthy young man. At the point where I knew his anger was growing intensely and I was left with only one of two options, either shoot him or take that chance of him raping me and doing me in and possibly hurting my children who were still asleep in their bedrooms, I pulled the gun up and put it to his temple and said, "Get your ass off of me or I am going to blow it away". He didn't jump, he literally flew off of me and landed about six feet from the end of the bed. He stood there trembling as he said, "I was just kidding". I told him not something he should kid about. A few other things were said and I told him, "now get out!" It was about two years later he stopped me on the sidewalk as I was going into a store in a town nearby. He asked, "Hey do you remember me?" I was thinking, 'Yeah you little prick how could I forget'. He pleaded with me to let me show him something. It took a lot of "please" from him but I finally relented and walked up the street about a block with him. He had me stand on the sidewalk as he went into the little cafe, asking me, 'please, just wait here for a second'. He came back out with a beautiful little girl in his arms. He told me she was his little girl, how he took her to Sunday school every week. Then he started thanking me for saving him. I told him "thank God, I was going to shoot your ass".Yes, I was allowed to defend myself but questioned the matter because I really did not want to have to shoot him. Not only would I have had that on my conscience which would be hard to overcome but it would have also made one hell of a mess.Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?
I believe if God is the creator of life he would value life and be moral, so the moral person in thought and deed would then be God's chosen.
God is a spiritual entity of love whose omnipresence is in all things that have life.
Moral or immoral is subjective.
1.based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, individual, emotional, instinctive, intuitive
"a subjective analysis"
Humankind is subjected to not only themselves but also there surroundings. Your choices concerning what is moral or immoral as a human may be different than mine. We could go back to that conversation we had not long ago on personal gun ownership. Should I shoot the rapist that has broke in to my house, that is on top of me saying he is going to rape me, or not? Personally I couldn't decide right away even though my left hand was gripping the gun, and ready as I considered it, and tried to convince him this wasn't something he really wanted to do. In my mind I was trying really hard considering it all and the thought, "Thou shalt not kill" repeatedly. It was something I was struggling with in the whole incident. Once I determined I wasn't going to allow him to go through with his repeated threats, as he became more adamant, and fierce sounding, I determined it was him or me, and if I did not protect myself he could decide afterwards to do even more damage, if he decided not to leave a witness to his crime.
Of course you are allowed to defend yourself, its a natural built in instinct ,self preservation. I do not think emotions are involved in morality. That is not an emotion but an instinctive reaction when you determined it was him or me.
I am sure you know what is moral and not. Its built in, unless ones upbringing was so faulty one becomes a sociopath.
Per instincts we have two sides in that, one a spiritual side that is from the breath of God, and the carnal side which is that portion made of earth (dust, carnal being-beastly portion, that son of perdition portion of us). Thankfully that day the spiritual side was stronger than the carnal side or a young man would have been dead, and I would have had a mess in my house, along with the guilt I would have had. Shame is not easy to overcome.
A lot of reasons and factors that people can grow up to act like or be sociopaths so I'll save that discussion for another day.
So you would rather of been killed that to kill another human being?
I did not really know him. The night before my cousin had asked me if I would go out with her to a bar with band and a dance floor as she did not have a car or a way to get out to meet other people. Grand' said it would be nice of me to take her out and she'd watch the children while we were out. Dropped the children at grand's picked up cousin, drove to larger town nearby. Right away she went off onto the dance floor. She had met this guy about a half an hour after we got there, came by told me told me his name, then they disappeared. Later when I decided it was time to go she'd had enough time to make friends I couldn't find her. It took me awhile but I finally found her I told I was tired and it was time for me to go home...(a few details left out not worthy of mention)... she said she would get a ride from home with her new friends. She had been staying at my grand's house for the most part who lived near a different town but had stayed a few times in the empty apartment next to mine (grand' owned both apartments). I had all my doors locked so not sure how he got the one of the locks unlocked as I had checked them all when I got home after picking up the children from grand's house. I'd drove home, got them into to bed for the night, and check the locks before crawling into bed. The checking the locks was routine since a guy that I had gone out with before moving there had made some very serious threats when I told him it was over (old boyfriend had gotten a window open I didn't know was unlock and it was a second story window- that's how sheriff got involved watching over me). I had assumed cousins new found friends would have taken her to grand's house and dropped her off but they didn't she went to the empty apartment next to where the children and I lived. The sheriff and deputies had watched over me fairly well there and when I work in a small town nearby at a lounge, cafe, motel they would patrol there. They would cruise the parking lots all around my building that set at the edge of town at night to make sure I was safe because the children and I were alone there. The sheriff told me several times, if anyone ever comes into your house and "is a threat don't hesitate shoot them, better them than you".That is what was so hard for me in making that call back then. The pistol was slid down beside the mattress and wooden waterbed frame. I tried and tried to talk him into getting off of me as I had reached my left arm down and had the pistol worked around in my hand and ready to pull up and shoot. I only weighed 98lbs and he was a pretty good size healthy young man. At the point where I knew his anger was growing intensely and I was left with only one of two options, either shoot him or take that chance of him raping me and doing me in and possibly hurting my children who were still asleep in their bedrooms, I pulled the gun up and put it to his temple and said, "Get your ass off of me or I am going to blow it away". He didn't jump, he literally flew off of me and landed about six feet from the end of the bed. He stood there trembling as he said, "I was just kidding". I told him not something he should kid about. A few other things were said and I told him, "now get out!" It was about two years later he stopped me on the sidewalk as I was going into a store in a town nearby. He asked, "Hey do you remember me?" I was thinking, 'Yeah you little prick how could I forget'. He pleaded with me to let me show him something. It took a lot of "please" from him but I finally relented and walked up the street about a block with him. He had me stand on the sidewalk as he went into the little cafe, asking me, 'please, just wait here for a second'. He came back out with a beautiful little girl in his arms. He told me she was his little girl, how he took her to Sunday school every week. Then he started thanking me for saving him. I told him "thank God, I was going to shoot your ass".Yes, I was allowed to defend myself but questioned the matter because I really did not want to have to shoot him. Not only would I have had that on my conscience which would be hard to overcome but it would have also made one hell of a mess.Please describe you opinion on what God is, a moral entity? or an immoral entity?
God is a spiritual entity of love whose omnipresence is in all things that have life.
Moral or immoral is subjective.
1.based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, individual, emotional, instinctive, intuitive
"a subjective analysis"
Humankind is subjected to not only themselves but also there surroundings. Your choices concerning what is moral or immoral as a human may be different than mine. We could go back to that conversation we had not long ago on personal gun ownership. Should I shoot the rapist that has broke in to my house, that is on top of me saying he is going to rape me, or not? Personally I couldn't decide right away even though my left hand was gripping the gun, and ready as I considered it, and tried to convince him this wasn't something he really wanted to do. In my mind I was trying really hard considering it all and the thought, "Thou shalt not kill" repeatedly. It was something I was struggling with in the whole incident. Once I determined I wasn't going to allow him to go through with his repeated threats, as he became more adamant, and fierce sounding, I determined it was him or me, and if I did not protect myself he could decide afterwards to do even more damage, if he decided not to leave a witness to his crime.
Of course you are allowed to defend yourself, its a natural built in instinct ,self preservation. I do not think emotions are involved in morality. That is not an emotion but an instinctive reaction when you determined it was him or me.
I am sure you know what is moral and not. Its built in, unless ones upbringing was so faulty one becomes a sociopath.
Per instincts we have two sides in that, one a spiritual side that is from the breath of God, and the carnal side which is that portion made of earth (dust, carnal being-beastly portion, that son of perdition portion of us). Thankfully that day the spiritual side was stronger than the carnal side or a young man would have been dead, and I would have had a mess in my house, along with the guilt I would have had. Shame is not easy to overcome.
A lot of reasons and factors that people can grow up to act like or be sociopaths so I'll save that discussion for another day.
So you would rather of been killed that to kill another human being?
Did you know him or did he break into your home?
Yeah, but there's a lot of bullshit Christians walking around that say they are people of faith, but don't walk their talk.There are many who have belong to churches and non-believers throughout the ages that have attempted to stomp out those who testify of the spirit. Jesus taught about the spirit and that is why they sought to kill him.
John 7:37-39
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
I was born into a Catholic family. Baptized a Catholic. Confirmed a Catholic. Spent 8 years in parochial school. Have been to over 1000 masses in my life and I am here to say, God doesn't choose. We are all equal in HIS eyes. Even the Jews.Read the Book of Acts and note the number of incidents of Israelites, including priests, who received salvation. Are God's chosen not Christians now? The Lord's church, after all, has prevailed against mighty pagan empires like Rome and the Soviet Union. They try to stamp out the faith, and though they fall, the faith remains.
True but if they have requested the salvation it will come in time. There is a scripture that covers that. Jesus told them not to drink of his cup if they were not worthy. Also one that tells us not to think more of ourselves that what we are. Some preachers have taught boldness and being demanding but from my own experiences I would say try to be humble. If we aren't we will be humbled. Solomon also gave the clue when the two women came before him claiming the child was theirs. The real mother wants the child to live not die and if it requires that the child be with an imposter it is still better than a dead child. We judge things in a very temporary state when that 'life' given by the spirit of the creator is eternal. People subject themselves to all kinds of things here in that baby walk stage.Yeah, but there's a lot of bullshit Christians walking around that say they are people of faith, but don't walk their talk.There are many who have belong to churches and non-believers throughout the ages that have attempted to stomp out those who testify of the spirit. Jesus taught about the spirit and that is why they sought to kill him.
John 7:37-39
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
That is true. It also reminds me of the question, "What is the opposite of Love?" Many people think it is hate. But there are some people who "love to hate". Fear, on the other hand, is not something a person can have at the same time they love. Those two emotions are completely opposite from each other. If you are in a state of fear, you do not love. If you come from a place of love, you do not fear.True but if they have requested the salvation it will come in time. There is a scripture that covers that. Jesus told them not to drink of his cup if they were not worthy. Also one that tells us not to think more of ourselves that what we are. Some preachers have taught boldness and being demanding but from my own experiences I would say try to be humble. If we aren't we will be humbled. Solomon also gave the clue when the two women came before him claiming the child was theirs. The real mother wants the child to live not die and if it requires that the child be with an imposter it is still better than a dead child. We judge things in a very temporary state when that 'life' given by the spirit of the creator is eternal. People subject themselves to all kinds of things here in that baby walk stage.
Like the story of the "two rooms" when someone asks God what is hell like? And HE takes the man in to one room with a bunch of people sitting around a big pot of food with long forks. Forks so long that they could reach the food in the pot, but too long to put in their mouth after they got it. Everyone was starving. Everyone was suffering. That was hell.There is also a stage where one learns to recognize between acts people do of/for the flesh and the ones that are of the spirit of the Son. As humans without the spirit teaching us we do not know the difference.
I've never heard your 'two rooms' story but feel free to share.That is true. It also reminds me of the question, "What is the opposite of Love?" Many people think it is hate. But there are some people who "love to hate". Fear, on the other hand, is not something a person can have at the same time they love. Those two emotions are completely opposite from each other. If you are in a state of fear, you do not love. If you come from a place of love, you do not fear.True but if they have requested the salvation it will come in time. There is a scripture that covers that. Jesus told them not to drink of his cup if they were not worthy. Also one that tells us not to think more of ourselves that what we are. Some preachers have taught boldness and being demanding but from my own experiences I would say try to be humble. If we aren't we will be humbled. Solomon also gave the clue when the two women came before him claiming the child was theirs. The real mother wants the child to live not die and if it requires that the child be with an imposter it is still better than a dead child. We judge things in a very temporary state when that 'life' given by the spirit of the creator is eternal. People subject themselves to all kinds of things here in that baby walk stage.
Similar to your metaphor, if a 2 year old walks out into the street in front of an oncoming car and the mother sees this, she takes off running after the kid. At that moment in time, she does not fear the car and what it brings, she just knows she loves that baby and will put her life on the line to save it.
Like the story of the "two rooms" when someone asks God what is hell like? And HE takes the man in to one room with a bunch of people sitting around a big pot of food with long forks. Forks so long that they could reach the food in the pot, but too long to put in their mouth after they got it. Everyone was starving. Everyone was suffering. That was hell.There is also a stage where one learns to recognize between acts people do of/for the flesh and the ones that are of the spirit of the Son. As humans without the spirit teaching us we do not know the difference.
Then God takes the man in another room that had the same pot with a bunch of people sitting around it with the same long forks. But in this room, everyone was laughing and having a good time. No one was suffering.
Do you know the difference between the two rooms?
Here you go...I've never heard your 'two rooms' story but feel free to share.
And not just others. We also need to be aware of the hell within ourselves. There are those times where we inflict suffering on others and we don't even know it. But you are right, if we look, we'll see it.BTW, Hell is a spiritual place, just as heaven is. We can see hell manifest many times through people in their self inflicted suffering pretty easily if we take the time to look.
