Who Checks the "Fact Checkers?"

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Apparently, no one...

Media 'Fact Checkers' Always Seem To Favor Obama - Investors.com

Journalism: If media "fact checkers" are just impartial guardians of the truth, how come they got their own facts wrong about Paul Ryan's speech, and did so in a way that helped President Obama's re-election effort?

Case in point was the rush of "fact check" stories claiming Ryan misled when he talked about a shuttered auto plant in his home state.

Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler posted a piece — "Ryan misleads on GM plant closing in hometown" — saying Ryan "appeared to suggest" that Obama was responsible for the closure of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis.

"That's not true," Kessler said. "The plant was closed in December 2008, before Obama was sworn in."

What's not true are Kessler's "facts." Ryan didn't suggest Obama was responsible for shuttering the plant. Instead, he correctly noted that Obama promised during the campaign that the troubled plant "will be here for another hundred years" if his policies were enacted.

Also, the plant didn't close in December 2008. It was still producing cars until April 2009...

...when CNN looked more carefully at the evidence, it — to its credit — concluded that what Ryan said was "true."

Media fact-checkers also complained about Ryan's charge that Obama is cutting $716 billion from Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Not true, they said. Medicare's growth is just being slowed.

But Obama achieves that slower growth by making real cuts in provider payments. And in any case, the media always and everywhere call a reduction in the rate of federal spending growth a "cut." So why suddenly charge Ryan with being misleading for using that same term...?

The rest of Ryan's alleged factual errors aren't errors at all; it's just that the media didn't like how he said it. But since when is it a fact-checker's job to decide how a politician should construct his arguments...?

The problem is that the mainstream press is now abusing the "fact check" label, using it to more aggressively push a liberal agenda without feeling the need to provide any balance whatsoever. And, as the reaction to the Ryan speech shows, they are now blatantly using it to provide air support for Obama.

Is it any wonder that soon after Ryan's speech ended, the Obama campaign rushed out an ad using the media's "fact check" stories as its source?

It would seem that "facts" are open to interpretation...
 
The only thing that can be done today is for people to investigate on their own. There is no one media source that isn't biased anymore. Listen to what they report but you have to check it out on your own.
 
Your gonna be one busy fact checker with richie rich & boy blunder lying across

America .
 
It is a left-wing front organization paid by people like Soros to put out bullshit as the truth.

The media and idiots use it to promote their stupidity.
 
The "reality" is..that Ryan suggested that Obama's policies failed to help the plant..and that his Medicare "cuts" are impacting people who use it.

Both "facts" are lies.

Did Obama's policies help the plant like Obama suggested they would in 2008?
 
The "reality" is..that Ryan suggested that Obama's policies failed to help the plant..and that his Medicare "cuts" are impacting people who use it.

Both "facts" are lies.

Republicans run their election campaign based on a quote from their old friend Hitler:

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
-Adolf Hitler
 
Your gonna be one busy fact checker with richie rich & boy blunder lying across

America .

And Obama sets the gold standard for truth.

Is it true what they say? Is ignorance bliss?


No Obama is checked also . You guys & gals really need to stop listening to rush

& hanninty . The main stream media is not out to get you
 
The "reality" is..that Ryan suggested that Obama's policies failed to help the plant..and that his Medicare "cuts" are impacting people who use it.

Both "facts" are lies.

Republicans run their election campaign based on a quote from their old friend Hitler:

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
-Adolf Hitler

THERE IT IS!

Stupidity at it's finest!
 
Your gonna be one busy fact checker with richie rich & boy blunder lying across

America .

And Obama sets the gold standard for truth.

Is it true what they say? Is ignorance bliss?


No Obama is checked also . You guys & gals really need to stop listening to rush

& hanninty . The main stream media is not out to get you

Yeah, Obama is checked, by the same people who want him elected... Whatever helps you sleep at night...

Oh, and I don't listen to Rush or Hannity. Can't stand either one...
 
The "reality" is..that Ryan suggested that Obama's policies failed to help the plant..and that his Medicare "cuts" are impacting people who use it.

Both "facts" are lies.

Republicans run their election campaign based on a quote from their old friend Hitler:

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
-Adolf Hitler

THERE IT IS!

Stupidity at it's finest!



Just trying to help , stick your fingers in your ears & sing la la all you want . Yeh

that's stupidity at its finest . :eusa_whistle:
 
The Liberal Media's fact-checkers are just the same liberal liars with the same pretense of objectivity.
 
And Obama sets the gold standard for truth.

Is it true what they say? Is ignorance bliss?


No Obama is checked also . You guys & gals really need to stop listening to rush

& hanninty . The main stream media is not out to get you

Yeah, Obama is checked, by the same people who want him elected... Whatever helps you sleep at night...

Oh, and I don't listen to Rush or Hannity. Can't stand either one...



Fair enough . But the medi thing is just a tad bit conspiracy driven for me , but

as you say what ever lets you sleep at night
 
Apparently, no one...

Media 'Fact Checkers' Always Seem To Favor Obama - Investors.com

Journalism: If media "fact checkers" are just impartial guardians of the truth, how come they got their own facts wrong about Paul Ryan's speech, and did so in a way that helped President Obama's re-election effort?

Case in point was the rush of "fact check" stories claiming Ryan misled when he talked about a shuttered auto plant in his home state.

Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler posted a piece — "Ryan misleads on GM plant closing in hometown" — saying Ryan "appeared to suggest" that Obama was responsible for the closure of a GM plant in Janesville, Wis.

"That's not true," Kessler said. "The plant was closed in December 2008, before Obama was sworn in."

What's not true are Kessler's "facts." Ryan didn't suggest Obama was responsible for shuttering the plant. Instead, he correctly noted that Obama promised during the campaign that the troubled plant "will be here for another hundred years" if his policies were enacted.

Also, the plant didn't close in December 2008. It was still producing cars until April 2009...

...when CNN looked more carefully at the evidence, it — to its credit — concluded that what Ryan said was "true."

Media fact-checkers also complained about Ryan's charge that Obama is cutting $716 billion from Medicare to fund ObamaCare. Not true, they said. Medicare's growth is just being slowed.

But Obama achieves that slower growth by making real cuts in provider payments. And in any case, the media always and everywhere call a reduction in the rate of federal spending growth a "cut." So why suddenly charge Ryan with being misleading for using that same term...?

The rest of Ryan's alleged factual errors aren't errors at all; it's just that the media didn't like how he said it. But since when is it a fact-checker's job to decide how a politician should construct his arguments...?

The problem is that the mainstream press is now abusing the "fact check" label, using it to more aggressively push a liberal agenda without feeling the need to provide any balance whatsoever. And, as the reaction to the Ryan speech shows, they are now blatantly using it to provide air support for Obama.

Is it any wonder that soon after Ryan's speech ended, the Obama campaign rushed out an ad using the media's "fact check" stories as its source?

It would seem that "facts" are open to interpretation...

Who fact checks the fact checker? Anyone who wants to, moron.

The checker of the fact checkers you chose is a liar by omission. The last GM vehicle that rolled off the Janeville assembly line was in December 2008. About 50 workers stayed on to complete a contract with Isuzu for a few more months. The decision to close that facility was made in June 2008, even before the Bush economic disaster hit. Ryan blaming Obama for that closure shows what a scumbag liar he is.

Why would you pick such a lying scumbag to claim the fact checkers are wrong? Are you too fucking lazy to do a bit of analysis on your own?
 
The Liberal Media's fact-checkers are just the same liberal liars with the same pretense of objectivity.

You have any prove or is this another conspiracy theory ? You know black

helicopters circling around your house .
 
There are "fact checkers" and there are politically motivated "nit-pickers". The ironic thing is that the left loves the tax exempt Media Matters left wing propaganda source that hires little squads of "fact checkers" that monitor only conservative speech.
 
This bogus organization doesn't give Republicans artistic leeway with the facts, while they quietly let liberals say what they want when openly telling lies.

Ryan said Obamination didn't keep his promise to keep a GM plant in his hometown open with the takeover of GM, which is true. It doesn't matter if the plant was scheduled to shutdown before he got to the White House....he lied to the GM workers and voters in Ryan's hometown.

Oh but this bogus organization runs with the so-called truth even lying about what Ryan said and meant.
 
There are "fact checkers" and there are politically motivated "nit-pickers". The ironic thing is that the left loves the tax exempt Media Matters left wing propaganda source that hires little squads of "fact checkers" that monitor only conservative speech.

It's not a nit pick to show that Ryan is a scumbag liar with his claim about the Janeville GM plant.
 

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