Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

This Ongoing War: A Blog: 19-Sep-18: Kol Nidrei night stabbing attack at entrance to Jerusalem's Old City

 

[P F Tinmore]

This Ongoing War: A Blog: 19-Sep-18: Kol Nidrei night stabbing attack at entrance to Jerusalem's Old City

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

 

[rylah]

This Ongoing War: A Blog: 19-Sep-18: Kol Nidrei night stabbing attack at entrance to Jerusalem's Old City

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

Why, the Jihadi brides got tired of their 70 virgins?
So much wedding invitations to decline...too impolite towards the lovely brides:

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is one of those never-ending loops: Who's was?

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel. ∴ Hense all the security countermeasures and defensive counter-terrorism initiative that are the reasonable precautions.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

For some Arabs, Ahed Tamimi is no longer an 'icon'

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is one of those never-ending loops: Who's was?

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel. ∴ Hense all the security countermeasures and defensive counter-terrorism initiative that are the reasonable precautions.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is one of those never-ending loops: Who's was?

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel. ∴ Hense all the security countermeasures and defensive counter-terrorism initiative that are the reasonable precautions.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

Indeed, it’s comical that you are reduced to cutting and pasting your usual slogans.

 

[Hollie]

This Ongoing War: A Blog: 19-Sep-18: Kol Nidrei night stabbing attack at entrance to Jerusalem's Old City

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

Indeed, what war?

Indeed, it was the Arabs-Moslems who committed acts of war by attacking Israel and attempting breach the Israeli border. Are you ignorant of the Tire Burning Riots?

 

[Mindful]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This is one of those never-ending loops: Who's was?

Indeed, Israel really needs to end its war.

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel. ∴ Hense all the security countermeasures and defensive counter-terrorism initiative that are the reasonable precautions.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

Indeed, it’s comical that you are reduced to cutting and pasting your usual slogans.

He gets on my nerves.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Egypt presents new plan to return control of Gaza to PA

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

 

[Mindful]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

Utter drivel.

Not deserving of a reasoned response.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

What "rights" were stripped from Arabs-Moslems?

Link?

 

[Shusha]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

Are you saying the Arab Palestinians have no rights to self-determination and sovereignty?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

Are you saying the Arab Palestinians have no rights to self-determination and sovereignty?

Israel says that. It is currently the external interference.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You do this quite frequently.

The Arab Palestinians are a bonefide threat to the peace and security of Israel.

Indeed, the Palestinians should never have attacked the foreign colonial settlers.

(COMMENT)

The Jewish Immigrants, yes most of them escaping persecution and predudice, where not part of colonial power. The Jewish People were offered an opportunity by the Allied Powers (as a collective and not a single nation) approved at the San Remo Convention, to establish in Palestine [an area under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA)] a national home for the Jewish people. This area → the responsibility of which having been assume by the Allied Powers → pursuant to Article 16 (Treaty of Lausanne) after the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title to the future of these territories to be settled by the parties concerned (the Allied Powers).

Two Points:

ψ It was not an action Colonial action of the Allied Powers, as it was stipulated in the Mandate - AND - "it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities" (ie the Arab Palestinians).

ψ Neither the "civil or religious" rights of the inhabitants, in the former Occupied Enemy Territory, have no effect on the establishment of government, independence or sovereignty. Religious and Civil Rights have no impact:

■ Even before the Treaty of Lausanne, at least three attempts were "made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government." The Arab Palestinians declined, in all three instances, to participate in the establishment of self-governing institutions.

■ On the "rights" of the inhabitance in the post-War period following the Great War has no direct effect on:

• The principle of equal rights,
• Self-determination of peoples,
• The international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character,
• Territorial integrity,
• Political independence,

Nothing was taken from the Arab Palestinians until the outbreak of hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

Are you saying the Arab Palestinians have no rights to self-determination and sovereignty?

Israel says that. It is currently the external interference.

False. Indeed, it is the competing mini-caliphate’ists in Gaza and the West Bank who fail to cobble together a working, representative government which can take the steps necessarily for self-determination and sovereignty.

Which franchise of Islamic Terrorism Intl Inc., has shown an ability or willingness to form a stable, responsible government capable of managing the civil affairs of government?

 

[Hollie]

Live by the gee-had (for a brief period of time), die by the gee-had.




IAF targets Palestinian terror cell planting bombs ‎near Gaza border ‎
Palestinians report two fatalities in strike • Incident follows riots in northern Gaza, where hundreds of Palestinians tried to breach the security fence • Balloon carrying a fragmentation ‎grenade launched into Israel from Gaza, neutralized safely. ‎

News Agencies and Israel Hayom Staff
http://www.israelhayom.com/2018/09/...rror-cell-planting-bombs-‎near-gaza-border-‎/


An IDF strike on terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip

Illustration: AP

The Israeli Air Force on Monday targeted a Palestinian ‎terrorist cell planting explosives on the Israel-‎Gaza Strip border.‎

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

AGAIN!

You get this wrong, e v e r y s i n g l e t i m e...

Natural rights are only those rights which a government or legal system cannot deny. (Life, Liberty, Choice of destiny, Happiness and maybe even Religion → that sort of thing; NOT political rights.)

No person, no government, no legal system have denied these rights to the Arab Palestinians. What has happened is that the ugly Arab Palestinian has forfeited these rights through the use of coercion, intimidation, fear and terror, and armed engagement against others.

Natural "inalienable rights" do not come from government. If you hold of some form of Abrahamic belief, you would have been taught that the Natural "inalienable rights" are bestowed upon man by the "creator" (or the Supreme Being). A peculiar feature to Natural Rights is that they are bestowed on the individual, and not a people, society or culture.

Did the world powers have the authority to strip the Palestinians of their natural rights? The Palestinians have rightly said no for a hundred years.

You consistently post pages of external interference.

(COMMENT)

Q: What natural right do you believe has been "stripped" away from the Arab Palestinian?
A: None

Again, you are mixing-up the type and kind of rights.

✪ Positive Rights: Obligate, or Imposes a Duty on someone to take some action - or to provide something - to effect the rights upon others.
✪ Negative Rights: Requires a stay of action - placing an injuction someone, - or - non-interference.
​

The "Right to Life" is a "NEGATIVE" - "Natural Right" → the injunction against murder.
The "Right to Return" is (if it exists) is a man-made law. It is NOT a "Natural Right." The "Right to Return" (if it exists) is an injunction barring passage.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Hamas terrorist organization announced on Sunday that its indirect ceasefire talks with Israel have halted, The Associated Pressreported.

Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri blamed the impasse on the Palestinian Authority, which has voiced its strong opposition to the talks.

Abu Zuhri said that in response, Hamas would be escalating its protests in new locations along Gaza's borders with Israel.

(full article online)

Hamas: Ceasefire talks with Israel are over