Which one is a civilised country ?

[Tilly]

 

[Mindful]

What do you think of this, Phoenall and Tilly?

I read his book about this a few years ago. An excellent read that had lefties all in a tizz over the exposure by one of their own.
I haven't watched your link yet, but certainly it seems in countries in France where Islamic extremism and terrorism is on the rise, the Left have begun espousing views and potential policy changes that come straight from those they refer to as the 'far right' - ie Front National in this case.
Not to mention their love in with Islam - you couldn't get more far right than that, and of course their own totalitarianism and Orwellian PC controls.

Nick Cohen is a lefty; who sees the light.

Deborah Orr, I notice, is married to Will Self.

 

[Mindful]

Be honest. Which is the lesser evil?

 

[StLucieBengal]

Be honest. Which is the lesser evil?

Yeah forcing people to wear certain clothing items or face punishment has never gone wrong.

 

[Esmeralda]

If you want to understand more how the French people feel about the burkini, watch the news channel France 24/7 in English.

 

[Esmeralda]

Be honest. Which is the lesser evil?

It's not about the beauty of what you are seeing but about the political and social message that is being sent by the burkini.

It's about non-acceptance of French culture. Also, keep in mind that all women wearing the burkini are not going to look like models. Obesity is growing at a rapid pace in Arabic cultures.

 

[Esmeralda]

France is roughly the same size as Texas. In fact, Texas is actually slightly larger. (wiki)

France is a small but ancient country with hundreds and hundreds of years of heritage, more art and cultural heritage than the entire US, and a proud people who put great value in their cullture. It makes sense for them to be very protective of their culture and to be offended and off-put by people who wish to visit or live in France but reject the culture.

Cultural unity is very important in France. I had a colleague who had worked in France. As someone who had a work visa there, she was required to take French lessons. The French take their language very seriously. In the US, no one who lives here would be required to study English, advised but not required.

France is not the US. France is its own unique culture. If they require people who live there to study French, why aren't people like the OP against that as it means that people aren't free to do what they want?

It is a double standard to say women should be free to wear the burkini but must be compelled to study French.

 

[Phoenall]

What do you think of this, Phoenall and Tilly?

This has been ongoing for a few years now ever since the people used their power to oust the left in the UK because of their failed policies in regards to immigrants. The people told them they were not happy with the levels of immigration and Brown put the icing on the cake when he called that woman a bigot. From that one incident the labour party lost 50% of its support, and had to eat humble pie and admit they were wrong. They promised a vote on Europe first after stealing many UKIP and BNP policies as their own to fight the election they lost to the coalition government. The penny will drop that the people no longer trust them after the many scandals that came to light shortly before they lost their power. They were the biggest thieves in Westminster and some are still paying back what they owe. I know of one who took his own life rather than face the shame and loss of face of going to court.
They are moving towards neo marxism or champagne socialism where they are more equal than the rest of humanity and so deserve the lifestyle of a capitalist

 

[Phoenall]

Be honest. Which is the lesser evil?

The fat bloke as he will only kill himself, anyone in a burkha could be a possible suicide bomber who could kill scores of innocents.

 

[Tilly]

Lol. I suspect this will be nipped in the bud - tourism being their main source of income. However, if it's what they want, I support them.

Britons in BLACKMAIL threat from hardline Islamists if they wear BIKINIS on the beach
THOUSANDS of British women heading to holiday hotspots in Morocco could be targeted by hardline Islamists who are waging an online campaign to shame those who wear bikinis.
By LEDA REYNOLDS
PUBLISHED: 11:00, Sat, Aug 27, 2016 | UPDATED: 12:31, Sat, Aug 27, 2016

GETTY

A group in Morocco is angry women are wearing bikinis
Every year around 500,000 Brits jet off to Morocco, which is known for its year-round sunshine, idyllic beaches and tantalising food.

However, while many women in the UK add their bikini to their suitcase without a second thought, Islamists in Morocco are warning those caught wearing skimpy swimwear will have their photograph taken and the image posted online for millions around the world to see.

The hardliners are angry women from the West are showing flesh in a country where more than 99 per cent of the population is Muslim, modesty is expected and many females wear headscarves...

Britons in BLACKMAIL threat from hardline Islamists if they wear BIKINIS on the beach

 

[Tilly]

London Met Police allowed hijab wearing in 2001. It did virtually nothing to raise the number of muslim women police officers. Women who wear muslim garb are likely to be more observant. Policing would be difficult for them since they cannot touch men who are not in their immediate family. How could they even cuff someone?

 

[ESay]

France is roughly the same size as Texas. In fact, Texas is actually slightly larger. (wiki)

France is a small but ancient country with hundreds and hundreds of years of heritage, more art and cultural heritage than the entire US, and a proud people who put great value in their cullture. It makes sense for them to be very protective of their culture and to be offended and off-put by people who wish to visit or live in France but reject the culture.

Cultural unity is very important in France. I had a colleague who had worked in France. As someone who had a work visa there, she was required to take French lessons. The French take their language very seriously. In the US, no one who lives here would be required to study English, advised but not required.

France is not the US. France is its own unique culture. If they require people who live there to study French, why aren't people like the OP against that as it means that people aren't free to do what they want?

It is a double standard to say women should be free to wear the burkini but must be compelled to study French.

Many immigrants in France are from former colonies in Africa. Majority of them are fluent in French, but that doesn’t mean they have assimilated in the French society. The language isn’t the main obstacle in this case.

 

[Igrok_]

France is roughly the same size as Texas. In fact, Texas is actually slightly larger. (wiki)

France is a small but ancient country with hundreds and hundreds of years of heritage, more art and cultural heritage than the entire US, and a proud people who put great value in their cullture. It makes sense for them to be very protective of their culture and to be offended and off-put by people who wish to visit or live in France but reject the culture.

Cultural unity is very important in France. I had a colleague who had worked in France. As someone who had a work visa there, she was required to take French lessons. The French take their language very seriously. In the US, no one who lives here would be required to study English, advised but not required.

France is not the US. France is its own unique culture. If they require people who live there to study French, why aren't people like the OP against that as it means that people aren't free to do what they want?

It is a double standard to say women should be free to wear the burkini but must be compelled to study French.

Many immigrants in France are from former colonies in Africa. Majority of them are fluent in French, but that doesn’t mean they have assimilated in the French society. The language isn’t the main obstacle in this case.

what a fresh idea!

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Why don't muslim men cover up from head to toe at the beach/swimming pools?

Considering how fucking ugly most of them are, it would be a service to us all if they did so and allowed all the beautiful women to be seen.

 

[theHawk]

Its interesting to contrast the progressive and pragmatic approach of our Celtic friends with the confrontational and backward stance of the French.

The hijab is now an official part of police uniform in Scotland

How many armed cops does it take to get a woman to strip ?

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Old Tommy-girl with his pro-Islam propaganda post of the day.

It's fun watching progressive turds defend an ideology that treats women no better than dogs, when they pretend to also be for women's rights.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I think he gets turned on by burkas and suchlike. Some men do.

I read a book about it.

Come on -- that's not fair to Tommy AT ALL, Mindful. Shame on you! I am absolutely certain that Tommy would never be turned on by a woman in a Burka.

In Tommy's rich fantasy life, he's the one IN the Burka.

 

[Mindful]

I think he gets turned on by burkas and suchlike. Some men do.

I read a book about it.

Come on -- that's not fair to Tommy AT ALL, Mindful. Shame on you! I am absolutely certain that Tommy would never be turned on by a woman in a Burka.

In Tommy's rich fantasy life, he's the one IN the Burka.

Do you think they are naked under those garments?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Do you think they are naked under those garments?

I just threw up in my mouth there for a bit because for a second, I thought you meant Tommy.

As far as the women are concerned, though, my imagining them naked is just the start.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Do you think they are naked under those garments?

I just threw up in my mouth there for a bit because for a second, I thought you meant Tommy.

As far as the women are concerned, though, my imagining them naked is just the start.

Not sure I could do it.... I didn't buy a house because when I went to see it I saw a dog in the back that looked beaten down. Loved the house, fair price, was perfect .... Just not into beaten down and oppressed anything.

 

[J&K]

United States
Japan
Belgium
Germany
South Korea
Great Britain
Spain
Greece

This eight in country watch.