Which one is a civilised country ?

[irosie91]

In this comparison FRANCE is in the right for forcing foreigners to conform to French standards rather than Scotland which is bowing to foreign influence.

I really don't see why it is anyone's business what someone else wears?? I wear stuff that makes my kids cringe but I wear it anyway. I'm much more concerned about the real threats; assholes wearing suicide belts and having murderous intent.

Greg

Islamic cultures often have laws that specify what Western women can wear in their countries. If Islamic woman complain about what a Western government says they can wear, then these women are hypocrites. In their own countries, Western women are not allowed to wear whatever they want.

And btw, the abya, hijab burkini are not religious items , they are cultural. As a general rule, Islam does not requried women to wear these things, but it may be common in some Muslim countries.

I think when in Rome do as the Romans do should be the rule of behavior, if Islamic countries can dictate what women wear under the guise of Islamic modesty, France or any other country can dictate what women wear based on the idea of being equal to men.

I say this as a woman who has lived and worked in 3 Islamic countries for a total of 10 years.

The point is that this ban is not french law.Just local edicts brought in by idiots.

The court has found them illegal and in fact:

"seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom."

Important that our rights are protected or we will end up like Saudi.

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

wrong again----acceptable BEACH WEAR rules exist in many places in the USA-----There are actually PUBLIC SWIMMING PLACES that disallow ---blue jean "cut offs"
We (the USA) also have a strong justice system

 

[Mindful]

I really don't see why it is anyone's business what someone else wears?? I wear stuff that makes my kids cringe but I wear it anyway. I'm much more concerned about the real threats; assholes wearing suicide belts and having murderous intent.

Greg

Islamic cultures often have laws that specify what Western women can wear in their countries. If Islamic woman complain about what a Western government says they can wear, then these women are hypocrites. In their own countries, Western women are not allowed to wear whatever they want.

And btw, the abya, hijab burkini are not religious items , they are cultural. As a general rule, Islam does not requried women to wear these things, but it may be common in some Muslim countries.

I think when in Rome do as the Romans do should be the rule of behavior, if Islamic countries can dictate what women wear under the guise of Islamic modesty, France or any other country can dictate what women wear based on the idea of being equal to men.

I say this as a woman who has lived and worked in 3 Islamic countries for a total of 10 years.

The point is that this ban is not french law.Just local edicts brought in by idiots.

The court has found them illegal and in fact:

"seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom."

Important that our rights are protected or we will end up like Saudi.

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

wrong again----acceptable BEACH WEAR rules exist in many places in the USA-----There are actually PUBLIC SWIMMING PLACES that disallow ---blue jean "cut offs"
We (the USA) also have a strong justice system

I think he gets turned on by burkas and suchlike. Some men do.

I read a book about it.

 

[Tilly]

This is a 'suspension' of the bans, and I think the chances of Sarkozy, who has sworn to ban the burkini nationwide, being elected just shot up somewhat, not to mention support for the Front National. I suspect the lefties are finished in France for a while.
A Recent French poll showed only 6% are against the ban, over 2/3rds support it, and the rest don't care.
The mayor in Corsica, where violence erupted when a Muslim family declared the beach as their own, has vowed to maintain the ban and ignore the suspension. I don't think the burkini war is over yet.

 

[Mindful]

And to think I saw Moroccan girls going topless on Moroccan beaches.

 

[Tilly]

Why don't muslim men cover up from head to toe at the beach/swimming pools?

 

[irosie91]

And to think I saw Moroccan girls going topless on Moroccan beaches.

take another look-----the alleys of the cities are lined with
whores------

 

[Phoenall]

Lol.
Civilisation 1 Nazi Trash 0

Top French court suspends burkini ban

Wait and see what happens, France is not like Wales and the people will indulge themselves

 

[Phoenall]

In this comparison FRANCE is in the right for forcing foreigners to conform to French standards rather than Scotland which is bowing to foreign influence.

I really don't see why it is anyone's business what someone else wears?? I wear stuff that makes my kids cringe but I wear it anyway. I'm much more concerned about the real threats; assholes wearing suicide belts and having murderous intent.

Greg

Islamic cultures often have laws that specify what Western women can wear in their countries. If Islamic woman complain about what a Western government says they can wear, then these women are hypocrites. In their own countries, Western women are not allowed to wear whatever they want.

And btw, the abya, hijab burkini are not religious items , they are cultural. As a general rule, Islam does not requried women to wear these things, but it may be common in some Muslim countries.

I think when in Rome do as the Romans do should be the rule of behavior, if Islamic countries can dictate what women wear under the guise of Islamic modesty, France or any other country can dictate what women wear based on the idea of being equal to men.

I say this as a woman who has lived and worked in 3 Islamic countries for a total of 10 years.

The point is that this ban is not french law.Just local edicts brought in by idiots.

The court has found them illegal and in fact:

"seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom."

Important that our rights are protected or we will end up like Saudi.

Or like Britain was under the last Labour neo marxist government.

 

[Tilly]

The Arabic press has apparently been in a furore over the burkini ban, labelling France intolerant and racist. Burkinis aren't allowed in SA, and women can't even drive
Lol.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

As a general rule you can tell if a law is just by the people who support it.

Here we have a selection of right wing eurotrash trying to strip muslim women. Its obvious which is the correct way to go in this matter.

 

[Phoenall]

Islamic cultures often have laws that specify what Western women can wear in their countries. If Islamic woman complain about what a Western government says they can wear, then these women are hypocrites. In their own countries, Western women are not allowed to wear whatever they want.

And btw, the abya, hijab burkini are not religious items , they are cultural. As a general rule, Islam does not requried women to wear these things, but it may be common in some Muslim countries.

I think when in Rome do as the Romans do should be the rule of behavior, if Islamic countries can dictate what women wear under the guise of Islamic modesty, France or any other country can dictate what women wear based on the idea of being equal to men.

I say this as a woman who has lived and worked in 3 Islamic countries for a total of 10 years.

The point is that this ban is not french law.Just local edicts brought in by idiots.

The court has found them illegal and in fact:

"seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom."

Important that our rights are protected or we will end up like Saudi.

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

 

[Phoenall]

As a general rule you can tell if a law is just by the people who support it.

Here we have a selection of right wing eurotrash trying to strip muslim women. Its obvious which is the correct way to go in this matter.

Yep kick them all out and let them move to wales were they will be welcomed with open arms. Tainted wont mind all his friends with benefits getting killed during Eid every year, he can always buy some more from New Zealand

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The point is that this ban is not french law.Just local edicts brought in by idiots.

The court has found them illegal and in fact:

"seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom."

Important that our rights are protected or we will end up like Saudi.

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

You could try telling a Wrexham girl what to wear and see how far it gets you. Obviously submissive right wing types like tilly and mindless are happy to be dictated to on what they should wear. Part of their culcha I guess.
Anyway,isnt it time for your nappy change old fella ?

 

[Mindful]

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

You could try telling a Wrexham girl what to wear and see how far it gets you. Obviously submissive right wing types like tilly and mindless are happy to be dictated to on what they should wear. Part of their culcha I guess.
Anyway,isnt it time for your nappy change old fella ?

You should be careful about labelling people, with no empirical evidence to back it up.

 

[Tilly]

As a general rule you can tell if a law is just by the people who support it.

Here we have a selection of right wing eurotrash trying to strip muslim women. Its obvious which is the correct way to go in this matter.

Lol.


"Of respondents backing the hard left Left Front party, 62 per cent said they were against the burkini.

Socialist Party supporters were less opposed to the garment than people who back the other parties. A majority (52 per cent) expressed disapproval at the burkini while 41 per cent of those backing Francois Hollande’s centre left party said they feel indifferent about it."...

Majority Of French Public Backs Burkini Ban, Poll Finds

 

[Phoenall]

The point is that these are not 'local idiots;' France is a highly civilized country. To suggest that Scotland, or any other Western culture, is more civilized than France is ludicrous. Though the court in France, which is equal to the US Supreme court, may rule that the bans on the burkini are not legal, that is one thing, but the French are extremely proud of their culture, heritage and language. An Islamic country would not allow Westerners to dictate behavior and change their culture, so why should France allow it? Tit for tat. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why do these people want to visit or live in France when they don't respect the culture?

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

You could try telling a Wrexham girl what to wear and see how far it gets you. Obviously submissive right wing types like tilly and mindless are happy to be dictated to on what they should wear. Part of their culcha I guess.
Anyway,isnt it time for your nappy change old fella ?

I did and she was most upset when I said put your clothes back on I am not that desperate. Her pimp then offered my the use of a sheep that was new to the game.

Being shown up again tainted is that why you are going all immature ?

 

[Phoenall]

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

You could try telling a Wrexham girl what to wear and see how far it gets you. Obviously submissive right wing types like tilly and mindless are happy to be dictated to on what they should wear. Part of their culcha I guess.
Anyway,isnt it time for your nappy change old fella ?

You should be careful about labelling people, with no empirical evidence to back it up.

Typical neo marxist trick, from when they ruled with an iron fist. Now they are nothings and are finding it harder to assimilate back into society

 

[Tilly]

They acted illegally and set a dangerous precedent. Nobody should be able to tell you what to wear in a western democracy. What would be the next thing ?

I am yet to see a list of burkini clad terrorists and so the whole thing is just gratuitous. There is no legal justification and no imperative to do this.

Luckily the French have a strong justice system that protects individual freedoms.

I doubt you have spent much time in France in recent years. Your country has not suffered to any degree the number and extent of terrorist attacks that France has. France has the highest Muslim population in Europe. Scotland's Muslim population is probably miniscule. I don't think all or most Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with terrorists, but do think, and have observed that many Muslims living in France are not adapting to the culture but expect French culture to adapt to them. In general, the French are getting fed up with this, and I don't blame them.I don't think you are in a position to make the judgements you are m aking.

I'm wondering if North Wales experiences Ninja outfits each time one ventures out of one's front door.

Then there's the 'attitude'.

Didn't see that many when I was last there, but saw plenty of taffies moaning about the English spending money freely in the shops.

You could try telling a Wrexham girl what to wear and see how far it gets you. Obviously submissive right wing types like tilly and mindless are happy to be dictated to on what they should wear. Part of their culcha I guess.
Anyway,isnt it time for your nappy change old fella ?

You should be careful about labelling people, with no empirical evidence to back it up.

Tammy likes his women shrouded. Lol.

 

[Mindful]

What do you think of this, Phoenall and Tilly?

 

[Tilly]

What do you think of this, Phoenall and Tilly?

I read his book about this a few years ago. An excellent read that had lefties all in a tizz over the exposure by one of their own.
I haven't watched your link yet, but certainly it seems in countries in France where Islamic extremism and terrorism is on the rise, the Left have begun espousing views and potential policy changes that come straight from those they refer to as the 'far right' - ie Front National in this case.
Not to mention their love in with Islam - you couldn't get more far right than that, and of course their own totalitarianism and Orwellian PC controls.