Which candidate will put more money into the Middle Class?

[Picaro]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

Another post chock full of stupidity. No surprise, since he thinks I was talking about 'Reaganism' or something.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

 

[owebo]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

What do the fucktard liberals always tell us.....oh yes...

We don't have a spending problem, we have a paying for problem.....

 

[Wyatt earp]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

What do the fucktard liberals always tell us.....oh yes...

We don't have a spending problem, we have a paying for problem.....

I thought it was they have a smoking crack problem...it's the only logical explanation on half the stupid shit they do against their own interest.

.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

so instead of states lowering taxes, to bring jobs in, JOBS, fuck that b/c you think making every company pay the same will magically mean the middle will pay less.


good fucking god, the level of ignorance to consider such idiocy is shocking.

What kind of jobs are you talking about?

from janitor to ceo

 

[frigidweirdo]

A hell hole with six week paid vacation after a year, great roads and airports etc, great free health care, no ghettos. Congrats- you're the first person to ever call Switz a hell hole lol.

You couldn't pay me a billion dollars to live in a God Damn country like Switzerland, Norway, Denmark or Holland .

I guess Switzerland, Norway, Denmark and Holland just got lucky then, didn't they?

Yup they sure did, by having this to protect their socialist ass. They are welcome my tax dollars pay for it.


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Yeah, to protect their asses by getting mixed up with US wars, like Iraq, and the subsequent ISIS coming and attacking people that didn't have anything to do with Iraq.

?

What kind of retarded come back is that?

You know, the truth.

I don't do comebacks. I'm not on here to make myself cool by having good comebacks. I'm on here to talk about things in a sensible manner. So, if you're looking for good comebacks, don't talk to me, go talk to other people who insist on wasting their time talking crap all day on forums like this.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

You do know that the Corporations will add that tax to the price of the goods and servives they provide ?

Maybe they will. But then again it'll be fairer than some companies, the rich ones, being able to sell goods cheaper than the smaller firms because they've bribed their way through the system, wouldn't you say?

Republicans claim to be for business, but appear to only be for big business.

Try again, Democrats are for big bussiness...IE GE

Republicans are for the 90% plus mall bussiness in America

Care to actually back up what you say? Seeing as Republican policies are for giving huge corporations very low taxes.

10 Big Corporate Tax Breaks, and Who Benefits

You're telling me that the Republicans don't do any of these?

Last I looked Texas was mostly Republican. 20 Republicans to 11 Democrats in the Senate, 99 Republicans to 48 Democrats in the House.

And yet:

Report: Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses

"
Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses"

"Business tax breaks cost Texas $4.3 billion in the last state budget, a figure that amounts to about a third of the state's massive revenue shortfall"

"One of the largest carve-outs was for the natural gas tax, which totaled about $1 billion a year in exemptions"

 

[LeftofLeft]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

You do know that the Corporations will add that tax to the price of the goods and servives they provide ?

Maybe they will. But then again it'll be fairer than some companies, the rich ones, being able to sell goods cheaper than the smaller firms because they've bribed their way through the system, wouldn't you say?

Republicans claim to be for business, but appear to only be for big business.

Try again, Democrats are for big bussiness...IE GE

Republicans are for the 90% plus mall bussiness in America

Care to actually back up what you say? Seeing as Republican policies are for giving huge corporations very low taxes.

10 Big Corporate Tax Breaks, and Who Benefits

You're telling me that the Republicans don't do any of these?

Last I looked Texas was mostly Republican. 20 Republicans to 11 Democrats in the Senate, 99 Republicans to 48 Democrats in the House.

And yet:

Report: Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses

"
Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses"

"Business tax breaks cost Texas $4.3 billion in the last state budget, a figure that amounts to about a third of the state's massive revenue shortfall"

"One of the largest carve-outs was for the natural gas tax, which totaled about $1 billion a year in exemptions"

Compare the unemployment rate in Texas vs. Michigan, California, or New York State?

 

[francoHFW]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

Another post chock full of stupidity. No surprise, since he thinks I was talking about 'Reaganism' or something.

Jeebus what an idiot dupe....

 

[francoHFW]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

Reaganist fed tax cuts lead to higher state and local taxes and fees, which kill the nonrich, dupe. That's Reaganism. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[francoHFW]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

What do the fucktard liberals always tell us.....oh yes...

We don't have a spending problem, we have a paying for problem.....

All to save your greedy idiot GOP billionaire heroes from paying their fair share, dupe. Change the channel.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

Reaganist fed tax cuts lead to higher state and local taxes and fees, which kill the nonrich, dupe. That's Reaganism. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Not in my state dupe...



.

 

[francoHFW]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

I always wondered why you complain about state and local taxes dupe.



You vote for them to be high.

Reaganist fed tax cuts lead to higher state and local taxes and fees, which kill the nonrich, dupe. That's Reaganism. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Not in my state dupe...



.

How would you know, ignoramus? What state is that, so I can prove you're fos as always?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

Insensitivise???????

What language is that?

 

[Picaro]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Screw the 'middle class', they cut their own throats, nobody else did, so let them wallow in their own crap, they aren't the most important demographic concern for the government from here on out; double their taxes, just to pay for all the real estate bankruptcies alone they file when the bubbles bust and they run away crying and whining as if somebody else made them pay ridiculous prices for crappy houses. Problems are more severe for working class people.

Reaganism rolls on, dupes. Duh. Keep supporting the greedy idiot GOP. See sig.

The one tax graph you really need to know

"But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

CONTENT FROM UPSBorder bounty
Canada, Mexico drive billions in U.S. Commerce
But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income. As you get richer, those taxes recede, and you're mainly getting hit be federal taxes. So that's another lesson: When you omit state and local taxes from your analysis, you're omitting the taxes that hit lower-income taxpayers hardest.

But here is really the only tax graph you need: It's total tax burden by income group. And as you'll see, every income group is paying something, and the rich aren't paying much more, as a percentage of their incomes, then the middle class.

Another post chock full of stupidity. No surprise, since he thinks I was talking about 'Reaganism' or something.

Jeebus what an idiot dupe....

Says the clown who thinks cutting and pasting stuff somebody else wrote just because he likes what it says, speaking of dupes.

 

[Picaro]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

You do know that the Corporations will add that tax to the price of the goods and servives they provide ?

Maybe they will. But then again it'll be fairer than some companies, the rich ones, being able to sell goods cheaper than the smaller firms because they've bribed their way through the system, wouldn't you say?

Republicans claim to be for business, but appear to only be for big business.

Try again, Democrats are for big bussiness...IE GE

Republicans are for the 90% plus mall bussiness in America

Care to actually back up what you say? Seeing as Republican policies are for giving huge corporations very low taxes.

10 Big Corporate Tax Breaks, and Who Benefits

You're telling me that the Republicans don't do any of these?

Last I looked Texas was mostly Republican. 20 Republicans to 11 Democrats in the Senate, 99 Republicans to 48 Democrats in the House.

And yet:

Report: Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses

"
Texas gave away billions in tax breaks to businesses"

"Business tax breaks cost Texas $4.3 billion in the last state budget, a figure that amounts to about a third of the state's massive revenue shortfall"

"One of the largest carve-outs was for the natural gas tax, which totaled about $1 billion a year in exemptions"

I hate to be the one to break it to you, it never comes up at the Democratic Stooge echo chambers, but the 'middle class' votes for and supports that sort of corporate welfare, so you might want to maybe consider developing independent thinking skills and avoid regurgitating drivel from ideologues on both sides of the political spectrum, even if it's just for fun.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

It will be no money in the pockets of all those who get a pink slip instead of a pay raise.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

Leave everything the way it is and raise the minimum wage to $15.00/hr.

I guess you like more unemployed people.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

it won't make anyone middle class

min wage never has b/c it eventually does what we tell you time and time again.

telling you, again, what it will do, again, is a waste of time.

It's $2580.00/mo or $30,960.00/yr. A worker can have one full-time job and pay his/her way.

Then when every other worker demands a pay raise and the costs of all goods and services increase, those on minimum wage will be just as bad off, if not worse.

The company where my daughter works pays $11.00 an hour for a job that has significant responsibility. If they start paying them $15.00 an hour, my daughter would demand more because she barely makes $15,00 an hour now, and she is the boss with even greater responsibilities. My wife's company starts their workers at almost $15.00 now and cannot find quality workers. She makes about $3.00 an hour more than the new hires,. When that gets reduced to even less, why she should she not be paid more?

It is a dog chasing its tail. It won't know what to do when and if he ever catches it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is just proof you are too stupid to waste any more time reading anything from you.