Which candidate will put more money into the Middle Class?

[LeftofLeft]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

 

[easyt65]

Hillary has made it clear over decades - she is only concerned with power and enriching the Clintons.

 

[occupied]

The disappearing middle class did not all slide down, a significant number moved up but no one replaced them. Presidential candidates like to talk about creating jobs but the best they can actually do is create enough stability that consumers feel confident enough to buy durable goods. Trump's talk of trade wars, mass deportations, war and generally chaotic attitude does not seem like it would make for a stable country.

 

[Two Thumbs]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

 

[my2¢]

I've always found it best to fend for myself.

 

[Onyx]

Neither candidate. Let me explain.

Liberals would expand government institutions which create more government jobs, which are usually what I would consider middle class.

Conservatives would not do this, which means the free market would expand in the governments place if the oppurtunity void is secure long enough.

Government cannot create jobs. Only take jobs that would be created by the free market.

Both candidates are liberal by the way.

 

[Indeependent]

Neither candidate. Let me explain.

Liberals would expand government institutions which create more government jobs, which are usually what I would consider middle class.

Conservatives would not do this, which means the free market would expand in the governments place if the oppurtunity void is secure long enough.

Government cannot create jobs. Only take jobs that would be created by the free market.

Both candidates are liberal by the way.

Trump is not a Conservative.

The President has immense influence over Foreign Trade.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

 

[Onyx]

The President has immense influence over Foreign Trade.

That is true, but so does the free market.

Unless the government operates with free market ideals in mind, then the jobs they create are going to represent something more like welfare that you have to work for.

It should also be noted that if the president signs a free trade deal or lowers a tariff, he is not creating trade. He is just giving more permission back to the market.

 

[midcan5]

The only people who can put more money into any class is the people. Buy made in America, support a raise in wages, raise taxes on those who benefit most from our nation and put that money into infrastructure. Recognize the free market only helps corporations and tax them when they move off shore. As an example look on the roads today and see all the cars that supports unions, healthcare, and in the case of Germany free college. They call it the rust belt for a reason. But Americans today are too partisan hypnotized to see they are being played as suckers.

See here how much high end cars contribute to work in America. 2015
Kogod School of Business Made in America Auto Index

'In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure.'
Donald Trump: Chevrolet in Tokyo, Japan, 'doesn't exist'

"While it may come as no shock that luxury-car maker Mercedes-Benz came out atop the list of least-recalled brands, with an average 0.41 units recalled per vehicle sold, General Motors, with nearly 100 million vehicles recalled since 1985, actually placed third-best, with 0.65 cars and trucks recalled per unit sold.

Of the 15 major automakers surveyed, Hyundai Motor Company can lay claim to having the worst ratio, with 1.15 vehicles recalled for every model sold since it introduced the Excel to U.S. buyers in 1986. Other brands found to have recalled more cars than they sold in the U.S. over the last 30 years (needless to say this represents a number of cars for which multiple campaigns were initiated) include Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Volvo; Chrysler broke even, so to speak, with a one-to-one sales-to-recall ratio. (Scroll down for the full results.)" Automakers With The Lowest (And Highest) Recall Rates


'Toyota leads in recalls again in 2013, with tally topping 5 million vehicles'
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ls-again-in-2013-with-tally-topping-5-million


'Toyota's Out-of-Control Gas Pedals, 2009 & 2010, Size of Recall: 9 million vehicles Models Affected: 2004-2010 Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander, Prius, RAV4, Tundra, Tacoma and various Lexus models.'....Company officials have estimated the cost of the blunder will top $5 billion after all is said and done, making it the costliest recall ever recorded.' 5 Of The Largest Car Recalls In History | Investopedia

896,600 Reasons to Care About the Trans-Pacific Partnership
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Alabama Steelworkers Fight for Their Jobs, Angered By Korea Trade Deal


"If any single number captures the state of the American economy over the last decade, it is zero. That was the net gain in jobs between 1999 and 2009—nada, nil, zip. By painful contrast, from the 1940s through the 1990s, recessions came and went, but no decade ended without at least a 20 percent increase in the number of jobs." http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1003.lynn-longman.html

"The recent job actions and “Black Friday” protests at Walmart underscored the dismal wages and working conditions of many of the nation’s retail workers. Walmart hasn’t staked out some low-wage, no-benefit margin of the labor market: its labor and compensation practices are now the mainstream. For most of the last century, the worst employers in the United States—the tenement sweatshop, the company-town mine—were remnants of our past. Today, they are glimpses into our future." http://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/the-good-jobs-deficit

"At the top of this list is a trade policy that was designed to put manufacturing workers in direct competition with low-paid workers in the developing world. This had the predicted and actual effect of lowering the wages of U.S. manufacturing workers. Since manufacturing jobs are comparatively well-paying jobs for the 70 percent of the workforce without a college degree, this policy had the effect of lowering wages for this larger group of workers as well." How to Create Middle Class Jobs

Why is it Americans do not call out media sources that criticize American companies for government support while they ignore other nations where government suppliers and manufacturers cooperate and collaborate. Consider imports to Japan (Keiretsu). Why no mention of Japan's embargoes? Fox constantly mentions GM in a negative tone, as do most American conservative media sources. Why not call them out for bias? Rush Limbaugh supports Germany with his auto purchases, while he criticizes America's workers, does anyone notice? Glenn Beck and most of the others never touch the hard topics of fair wages, outsourcing, monetary manipulation, or work in sweat shops that amount to slavery conditions. Now all of a sudden the conservatives are noticing inequality as if it materialized this past year.

"Japan ships 1.5 million cars to America each year, but allows only 20,000 American cars into its own market. Since 2012, Japan’s yen has devalued by 50 percent against the dollar. Now Japan wants tariff-free access to the U.S. market through the TPP while it continues to cheat on currency." see American Manufacturing.org and TPP

 

[Conservative65]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

In other words, don't let cities and states run their cities and states? Do away with federalism?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

so instead of states lowering taxes, to bring jobs in, JOBS, fuck that b/c you think making every company pay the same will magically mean the middle will pay less.


good fucking god, the level of ignorance to consider such idiocy is shocking.

 

[Indeependent]

The President has immense influence over Foreign Trade.

That is true, but so does the free market.

Unless the government operates with free market ideals in mind, then the jobs they create are going to represent something more like welfare that you have to work for.

A Ricardian Free Market, such as existed prior to Reagan, will serve us just fine.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

In other words, don't let cities and states run their cities and states? Do away with federalism?

I live south of a city called Humbolt, if his plan was in place 10 years ago, it would be a village, and I would never had heard of it.

 

[Onyx]

A Ricardian Free Market, such as existed prior to Reagan, will serve us just fine.

You mean the primary influence Karl Marx used to justify communist economics?

 

[Conservative65]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

so instead of states lowering taxes, to bring jobs in, JOBS, fuck that b/c you think making every company pay the same will magically mean the middle will pay less.


good fucking god, the level of ignorance to consider such idiocy is shocking.

It's not ignorance. It's stupidity. The mindset of people like that is a European style government system where the federal government is very powerful and the state/local entities bend over, grab their ankles, and take it from the federal government. It would be easier if those types would just go to where they like how it's done.

 

[Muhammed]

Donald Trump.

Anyone who can't see that is an idiot.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Tax cuts won't jump start anything. We've seen that. The variable in the formula for long term growth that's been flat for some time is wage growth. Giving people a couple of grand once a year isn't going to do anything. Consumers having a grand a month more in wages will go much further.

The last time I looked, presidents don't sign paychecks.

 

[Indeependent]

A Ricardian Free Market, such as existed prior to Reagan, will serve us just fine.

You mean the primary influence Karl Marx used to justify communist economics?

REALLY?
Marx influenced Ricardo?
Are you retardo?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Trump's tax plan will add to the 47% that pay no taxes.