wHERE IS THE LIB OUTRAGE OVER THIS?

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  1. CSM
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    Milberg Weiss gave top Democrats funding:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Milberg Weiss Bershad & Schulman LLP, the securities class action law firm indicted last week on fraud charges stemming from corporate lawsuits it filed, made large political contributions almost exclusively to Democrats since 1999, records show.

    The firm and individuals there made $2.78 million in campaign donations to Democrats since 1999 compared to about $22,000 to Republicans, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks money in politics.

    Among the recipients were New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is a possible 2008 presidential candidate, senior New York Senator Charles Schumer and Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate in 2004.


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    http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...TRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-MILBERGWEISS-POLITICS-1.xml
     
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    Here's the difference:
    Abramoff did something bad. To do it, he donated money to politicians to gain influence in the democratic process in hopes of enriching himself and his clients.

    This firm also did something bad. It also donated money to a major political party. However, there is no proof (at least none presented in the article) that the company used these donations to gain leverage in the mechanisms of government in order to enrich itself and its clients.

    Saying the democrats are guilty of fraud (based on the information in the article) is like saying that the Green Party is murderous and corrupt because one of its donors murdered someone. Sure, he may have been a murderer and he may have donated to the Green Party, but that doesn't mean the Green Party assisted him commit the murder.
     
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    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

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    hang on it was reasoning like this that allowed you to extrapolate that there are little green men on other planets..... :rolleyes:
     
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    A lack of proof that something does exist is not in itself proof that it doesn't exist.

    And besides the fact that my reasoning in logical and realistic, do you have a problem with it?
     
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    This is true. About God and aliens. And other "stuff".
     
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    Milberg Weiss Bershad & Schulman LLP did do something "bad". They foolishly wasted contributions to a political party on the outs. I thought Dems 'hated" big business. Guess only if that business is Haliburton or any compny that doesn't contribute to the Dems. Damn they are a bunch of hypocrites.
     
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    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

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    your reasoning is yours....whatever works for you is fine with me....but just because you so it is so does not make it so
     
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    Quite so, just because someone says something, doesn't make it so, they have to be able to point to some evidence for their argument.
     
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    outraged about. Many law firms support primarily Democratic candidates, just as many oil companies support primarily Republican ones. If an oil company breaks a law, and happens to have made all its contributions to Republican candidates, that in no way implicates the Republican party in the law-breaking.

    The difference between this situation and Abramoff, as Mr. Conley correctly points out, is that Abramoff sought to alter government policy by wining and dining lawmakers. The fact that numerous high-ranking Republicans were willing to wined and dined, and then to change their votes, constitutes influence-peddling, which is illegal.

    Mariner.
     
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    You all missed the point.

    It isn't whether there is anything illegal being done; it is the APPEARANCE of influence peddling and bribery. Libs are all over "big oil" and the influence they supposedly have over the Republican party or conservatives yet replies like the ones above are the norm for Dems/libs when the ball is on their side of the net. No outrage...only dismisssal that there could be any impropriety.
    Some would call that hypocracy!
     

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