When is rape not rape?

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    There's a case currently being tried here that has raised some interesting questions about defining rape. In a nutshell:

    A serial rapist whose MO is to contract with a prostitute for services and after she has entered the car, he refuses to pay her and enjoys her services at knifepoint.

    He's being prosecuted for rape but the defense claims that he's not guilty of anything more than theft of services and aggravated assault.

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    I'm afraid it's rape if the woman doesn't agree to it, sucks don't it? The theft argument is weak, if any thing the man could be charged for rape and theft. But the bottom line is if she says no, that also applies to if you don't pay, it's rape. Rape=not consenting to sex.

    Now had she agreed to sex and they had sex before payment and then he didn't pay, that would be theft. Here he held her captive at knife point, his argument is laughable :)
     
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    Violent rape at knifpoint is merely theft of services and aggravated assault?

    What school did THAT LAWYER go to?

    If the guy moved the car, or refused to let the women out of it, it's rape, assault, AND kidnapping.

    Hanging offenses in some states.
     
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    The defense argument seems to be that the women had already agreed to provide sexual services and the matter is one of his refusing to pay the fee.
     
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    Looks like he'd planned it out ahead of time and wants to play semantics. He coerced her into it so yeah, it's rape.
     
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    He's obviously guilty of rape. It's not like she voluntarily agreed to have sex with him and then after that he refused to pay her. She wanted her money up front, when he refused she said no. After that it was rape at knifepoint.
     
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    When is rape not rape?

    Um, when the person did not consent.

    Goodness.
     
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    You can rape your wife, even if she has previously had consentual sex with you, or even if she agreed to sex and then changed her mind.

    Now, if the man had sex with the prostitutes and then refused to pay them, that wouldn't be rape. However since he had to hold them by knifepoint, and told them before the sex there would be no money, and they then changed their minds, it's rape.
     
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    It was rape. I hardly think the woman would have agreed to have sex with him at knifepoint.
     
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    My opinion is that the defense lawyer who came up with that argument is a misogynistic piece of shit who, if there were any justice in the universe, should be raped himself at least once. Belittle it NOW, shithead.

    Prostitutes are women. They have the EXACT SAME right to their own bodies as any other woman - any other human being - does. It does not matter what reasons they do or don't have for agreeing to have sex. At the moment that they choose not to have sex, "enjoying" them without their agreement - what an absolutely putrid turn of phrase - is rape, regardless of what their reason was for choosing not to.

    To say that having sex with a prostitute at knifepoint is only "theft of services" is to say that date rape is just being a REALLY bad date.
     
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