When Impeachment Is NO LONGER A Valid Constitutional Mechanism

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    What happens when a POTUS goes astray?
    There is the potential remedy of 'impeachment' which is a Constitutional mechanism.

    Let's suppose a US POTUS campaign conspired with a foreign government adversary/enemy to subvert a US POTUS election, and the ticket won the election.

    For the sake of debate let's say this is fact.
    How can the POTUS of said winning ticket be replaced by a Vice POTUS from the same winning ticket when said election was subverted via a conspiracy with a foreign government adversary/enemy?

    If the 'impeachment' process were to be utilized to replace the POTUS with the Vice POTUS, from the same winning ticket, that would be a farce, because the entire campaign/ticket is suspect & illegitimate.

    If we have only the Constitutional mechanism of 'impeachment' to replace a sitting POTUS, then in the above scenario, there would be NO legitimate option to replace an illegitimate POTUS with an illegitimate Vice POTUS.

    If the above scenario EVER comes to be, the American republic is in completely uncharted waters.

    The ONLY valid option would be to VOID the subverted election.

    Voiding the election would not be a Constitutional option so, such a scenario would be the END of our republic.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    One of the purposes of the Electoral College.
     
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    a little short on detail there?

    I would give you an E for Effort but instead I'm offering a F for Failure.
     
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    Of course, if there is no collusion or any evidence thereof with said foreign government, the whole point becomes moot, correct?


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    Another day! Another Russia Russia Russia thread!
     
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    No need for drama or bullshit, as your title implies (Impeachment is always an option). Your theoretical discussion hinges on impeachment & removal. If the VP is also guilty he can be impeached too. Nixon had Agnew as VP, but Agnew had tax evasion problems and resigned. Nixon picked Gerald Ford to replace Agnew as VP. Then Nixon resigned due to Watergate and Ford became an unelected president. Ford picked Rockefeller as VP. So we've seen this movie before. If presidents or VPs get removed or resign, the Senate confirms the replacement. Carter beat Ford, and we haven't had any unelected presidents or VPs since.
     
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    The only remedy would be for you to get together with your little friends and remove the entire administration. Replace it with one preselected by the Central Committee.
     
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    Mods, we need an "Orange Man Bad" sub forum
     
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    I did not mention Russia. You did.

    The thread is NOT about Russia.

    The thread is about the potential for a US POTUS election to be subverted by conspiracy between said campaign & a foreign government adversary/enemy, and the potential for adults to discuss the aspects of such a possibility.

    There are a (very) few adults here @ USMB and some times adults like to discuss ideas, particularlly ideas that may have never occurred before.

    I take it you are not an adult, yet.

    Sorry about that.
     
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    The Electoral College was created when it was a slow process to elect a President. After an election the copulas wanted an e mediate results but it took time to tally the popular vote so the Electoral College was created where a small group, on behalf of the electorate, decided who was the winner.

    USA 1016 election

    Here are the final numbers:
    Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.
    .Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)
    http://fusion.kinja.com/here-is-the-final-popular-vote-count-of-the-2016-electi-1793864349

    It was the Electoral College that got Trump into the White House, not the U.S. citizens vote.

    I think it is time for the Electoral College to be looked at. The general public doesn’t even know what or who they are and yet they decide who will be President regardless of the popular vote.

    What do you think?
     
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