CDZ When has bearing arms helped?

[danielpalos]

Graduate of the Soros school of history I see.

The Battle of Athens was a completely unnecessary use of violence

Peaceful protest, the media, the courts would have gained the same objectives.......like real Americans use

How’d peaceful protest, the courts, and your precious media work out for the Cambodians?

Oh yeah. One of every three was murdered.

And that peaceful protest at Tien An Men Square was a rousing, success that brought liberty like nobody has ever seen to the Chinese!

Oh wait....

Tienamen Square and Cambodia are not covered under our Constitution

Our Constitution has provided a means for peaceful resolution of grievances for over 200 years.......never needed guns

Our Constitution has provided a means for peaceful resolution of grievances for over 200 years.......never needed guns

I’ll be in Gettysburg Friday. Something occurred there. Something involving people’s rights.

yes, the People who are well regulated militia of the United States may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union, was established by that historical precedent.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

Were the British using spit-wads?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Then why did the founders write the 2nd Amendment? Any foggy ideas? I see the 2nd Amendment as the single most important defense against the Progressive Socialist Liberal OWG Hate America critters.

It is for the defense of our States and the Union. It says so in the first clause of our Second Amendment.

You are an idiot and not a student of history. The Federalist Papers clearly lay out the deliberations for the amendment. They clearly point out the right of free men to stop a tyrannical government from imposition of its will on the people. The MILITARY was ALL OF ITS PEOPLE... The arms were for all men and women.

You fools are pushing a fools narrative..

 

[Auld Phart]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

how?

The vote should be obvious and you are welcome to actually read our First Amendment.

I have

 

[Billy_Bob]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

 

[danielpalos]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Piss Off Troll.

i am not the infidel protesting and rebelling like clueless and Causeless renegades.

 

[rightwinger]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

All those guns
Still we have 30,000 gun deaths

They are not keeping us safe

 

[rightwinger]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

That is why the constitution gave us a 1 st amendment and a vote

We never needed guns since

 

[Billy_Bob]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

That is why the constitution gave us a 1 st amendment and a vote

We never needed guns since

You are a moron... IF you do not have the ability to protect that right it means exactly SQUAT! You are nothing more than a Useful IDIOT! You know what Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and others did to those useful idiots once they gained power? They killed them...

 

[danielpalos]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Then why did the founders write the 2nd Amendment? Any foggy ideas? I see the 2nd Amendment as the single most important defense against the Progressive Socialist Liberal OWG Hate America critters.

It is for the defense of our States and the Union. It says so in the first clause of our Second Amendment.

You are an idiot and not a student of history. The Federalist Papers clearly lay out the deliberations for the amendment. They clearly point out the right of free men to stop a tyrannical government from imposition of its will on the people. The MILITARY was ALL OF ITS PEOPLE... The arms were for all men and women.

You fools are pushing a fools narrative..

lol. those were some of the rationales back then. just like they opened Ellis Island.

 

[danielpalos]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

lol. nobody takes right wingers seriously.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among (Individual) Men,

 

[danielpalos]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

All those guns
Still we have 30,000 gun deaths

They are not keeping us safe

The legislature shall. It is not optional in Any more serious venue than this frivolous venue for the right wing.

 

[danielpalos]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

how?

The vote should be obvious and you are welcome to actually read our First Amendment.

I have

...then you should how it protects us.

 

[Auld Phart]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

lol. nobody takes right wingers seriously.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among (Individual) Men,

nobody takes you seriously

 

[JimBowie1958]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Piss Off Troll.

lol, what a doofus. The Second amendment is about hunting squirrels and shooting paper targets unless the state drafts you.

roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

lol. nobody takes right wingers seriously.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among (Individual) Men,

nobody takes you seriously

We were supposed to take him seriously?

 

[rightwinger]

The US Declaration of Independence makes the use of our weapons clear....

".--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

When a government gets out of control it is the sovereign RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, GIVEN BY GOD, to take matters into their own hands and change it.

This is why we have a second amendment..

"The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" If you can not protect yourself and your rights you are a slave.

That is why the constitution gave us a 1 st amendment and a vote

We never needed guns since

You are a moron... IF you do not have the ability to protect that right it means exactly SQUAT! You are nothing more than a Useful IDIOT! You know what Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and others did to those useful idiots once they gained power? They killed them...

200 plus years and guns have never protected our rights

You are welcome to show where they have

 

[Auld Phart]

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Are you saying our Government remained honest because they were afraid of citizens who had guns?

You have a link to that?

Lol our govt is far from honest
You are retarded. I hope a family member has red flagged your ass

That is why we have a free press
They have been keeping government honest for generations

Guns have done nothing

That is why we have a free press
They have been keeping government honest for generations

Most of that 'free press' is in the hands of the government, and for sale to the highest bidder.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

Piss Off Troll.

i am not the infidel protesting and rebelling like clueless and Causeless renegades.

Your post is only an insult. Piss Off Troll.

My cause is to help deport dumabasses like you that pose a threat to the Liberty and Freedoms of we, the people. THAT is why the Second Amendment is necessary. WHEN the SHTF, Uncle Scam will be begging gun owners to help put fruit loops like you on boats bound for Puerto Rico.

 

[rightwinger]

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Are you saying our Government remained honest because they were afraid of citizens who had guns?

You have a link to that?

Lol our govt is far from honest
You are retarded. I hope a family member has red flagged your ass

That is why we have a free press
They have been keeping government honest for generations

Guns have done nothing

That is why we have a free press
They have been keeping government honest for generations

Most of that 'free press' is in the hands of the government, and for sale to the highest bidder.

Link where government owns the press