CDZ When has bearing arms helped?

[Marion Morrison]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

The people of Hong Kong wish they had a 2nd Amendment right now.

And they know it.

They won for now, though.

 

[TNHarley]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

Yes, because guns helping people is so hard to find.
What a stupid OP

 

[TNHarley]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.

"inappropriate for CDZ"

 

[rightwinger]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Lmao what do you think protects the first amendment? You are so ignorant. You think tyrants give a fuck about unarmed idiots protesting? Lmao

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Name a single time guns have been used to defend the first amendment

Stupid logic. Citizens have always been well armed.

Go to Canada, where you’re prosecuted by the government for saying Islam is controlled by people wishing to do violence. Or UK where liking a Facebook post has the police at your front door.

Now you name one time tyranny has been heaped upon an armed citizenry.

Where has Canada ever lost it freedom by not having a second amendment ?.

Guns do not keep us free
The First amendment does

 

[rightwinger]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

 

[TNHarley]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you ****** ******

 

[rightwinger]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Citizens had freedom of speech

 

[rightwinger]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Are you saying our Government remained honest because they were afraid of citizens who had guns?

You have a link to that?

 

[TNHarley]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Are you saying our Government remained honest because they were afraid of citizens who had guns?

You have a link to that?

Lol our govt is far from honest
*** *** ****** I hope a family member has red flagged your ass

 

[Toronado3800]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

Yes, because guns helping people is so hard to find.
What a stupid OP

CDZ if you were just clicking "recents"

 

[JimBowie1958]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

You mean like this:
Battle of Athens (1946) - Wikipedia

Did you know that almost all of the Union forces that invaded the South in the Civil War were privately funded militia with their own weapons?

Also private security companies protect property and save lives all over the country, like Pinkerton and Wackenhut.

Now what is your question?

 

[Toronado3800]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

You mean like this:
Battle of Athens (1946) - Wikipedia

Did you know that almost all of the Union forces that invaded the South in the Civil War were privately funded militia with their own weapons?

Also private security companies protect property and save lives all over the country, like Pinkerton and Wackenhut.

Now what is your question?

I mentioned the Pinkertons previously so yeah, but in the regard to the strikers being the ones privately bearing arms.

Funny you mentioned the Union forces also. I have read the story of the beginnings of the NRA.

But yeah, I have some instances now. Next I'll need a list of Waco type incidents where the non government forces were armed and to reread and see if I agree with any of the group's causes

 

[rightwinger]

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Without guns, the rest of the amendments mean nothing.
Of course, your totalitarian ass dreams of that day.
My rep in Congress just told you to go wipe your dirty ass, faggot.

We have never needed guns to protect our freedom......EVER

Prove me wrong

That's because the citizens HAD guns you fuckin retard

Are you saying our Government remained honest because they were afraid of citizens who had guns?

You have a link to that?

Lol our govt is far from honest
You are retarded. I hope a family member has red flagged your ass

That is why we have a free press
They have been keeping government honest for generations

Guns have done nothing

 

[JimBowie1958]

But yeah, I have some instances now. Next I'll need a list of Waco type incidents where the non government forces were armed and to reread and see if I agree with any of the group's causes

Most of those were the case of goobermint agents mishandling or even outright committing fraud on innocent wack-jobs trying to mind their own business.

Randy Weaver was set up by a conniving court in Washington state, trying to get a career boosting bust on a dangerous racist, and make him be an informant and it all went sideways.

The Branch Davidians were open about what they were doing and Koresh told the guy they knew to be an infiltrated informant that he would be happy to go where ever the BATF wanted him to go so they could peacefully arrest him, but no, the BATF management had to try and arrest armed Texans like they were lumps of potato. What could go wrong?

 

[rightwinger]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

You mean like this:
Battle of Athens (1946) - Wikipedia

Did you know that almost all of the Union forces that invaded the South in the Civil War were privately funded militia with their own weapons?

Also private security companies protect property and save lives all over the country, like Pinkerton and Wackenhut.

Now what is your question?

Battle of Athens was an overreaction of citizens who thought their only tool was a gun

They could have peacefully gotten the same result through protest, the media and the courts

 

[Porter Rockwell]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

Missed this post for a while, but yeah I DO have an instance for you:

Back in the 1980s, the government got over zealous in taking people's homes and land. In about 1985 I participated in an armed standoff with some guys to help a black man named Oscar Lorick defend his property against a pending auction of the land his family had owned since their slave master had willed it to them.

After a few days of negotiating, the government backed down when a rich benefactor said he would pay the back taxes on the land, any fines against the defenders, and we were allowed to leave without incident.

 

[danielpalos]

In the U.S., we have the right to own guns, limiting it too much more should require a Constitutional Amendment. I own a gun, I guess most folks do.

Personally,

Mine is a relic in some ways. At the old place my gun enthusiast friends would come over, we'd clean it, we'd shoot their new gun. I don't carry it or take my family places where I feel I need to carry it for their protection. Mostly it sits like a liability to be guarded from misuse by the kids or hidden so whoever breaks in doesn't steal it.

In fairness, my Stihl chainsaw and some of my shop tools are somewhat of a liability also. I try not to tease the kids with their presence. Misuse has serious consequences.

Difference is, my tools are going to be useful again likely this month or this week even if I veg out tonight. My gun, MAYBE if someone breaks in. While I'm there. Then again, they'll probably have a gun since we all do and I'm not practiced enough to think I'm a better Doc Holliday.

Politically,

In the 1770's folks owning guns made a difference I think. Best I can tell in the 1860's Southerners owning guns almost saved the disgusting institution of slavery (we'll use Texas as the example of why the Civil War was fought: DECLARATION OF CAUSES: February 2, 1861 A declaration of the causes which impel the State of Texas to secede from the Federal Union. | TSLAC). Heck, was the NRA founded because Northern city dwellers were such poor shots NRA | About the NRA

I don't recall any instances of gun toting NRA members saving the Bonus Army from MacArthur. I don't recall armed private citizens fighting against the militia which blocked the Little Rock 9 from school. Heck, Big Government and the Band of Brothers were sent to force the militia down.

Any instances of positive gun toting resistance since then? I dunno. Help me out here.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

This is the Common law for the Common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[danielpalos]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

how?

The vote should be obvious and you are welcome to actually read our First Amendment.

 

[danielpalos]

Why did 1776 Occur?

Tyranny from a feudal government, A dictatorship, A socialist construct...

Our guns are to stop the consolidation of power by any one person or group resulting in tyranny.

Screw your gun grabbing pussies who want total control! Congress was placed by the people and we need the ability to remove them and their bureaucrats, by force if necessary.

Our first amendment and vote protects us from tyranny

A second amendment has never been needed

Then why did the founders write the 2nd Amendment? Any foggy ideas? I see the 2nd Amendment as the single most important defense against the Progressive Socialist Liberal OWG Hate America critters.

It is for the defense of our States and the Union. It says so in the first clause of our Second Amendment.

 

[danielpalos]

Here is one time when arms were used to overthrow tyranny. The government failed the people and they did what the Second was meant to do.

those were former combat veterans not floozies.