What Would Reagan Do?

We have a long and complicated vetting process. It is extremely difficult already for a refugee to get asylum in the United States.

Besides, that is not the biggest security hole, people. The biggest hole is the visa waiver agreement we have with Europe.
 
Terrorist Attacks On Americans, 1979-1988 | Target America

April 18, 1983

Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut

The Hezbollah operatives who carried out the attack on the embassy reportedly were receiving financial and logistical support from both Iran and Syria.

62 people killed, including 17 Americans.

And still...Reagan let in the Iranian refugees.



Oct. 23, 1983

Bombing of Marine barracks in Beirut

In mid-September 1982 -- after the U.S. troops had left -- Israel's Lebanese allies massacred an estimated 800 unarmed Palestinian civilians remaining in refugee camps.

deltex would approve.


The president assembled his national security team to devise a plan of military action. The planned target was the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah fighters.
 
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Not to be sticking up for the Iranians too much, but you people do realize none of this would be happening if the middle easterners hadn't hid America's and Britain's oil underneath their sand, right? We wouldn't have isis, wmd's that didn't exist and the warnterr that bush jr. gave us etc. We should have been doing like G. Washington advised - trade with other countries, but don't interfere in their backyards.
 
And still...Reagan let in the Iranian refugees.
 
Dec. 12, 1983

Bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait

The suspects were thought to be members of Al Dawa, or "The Call," an Iranian-backed group and one of the principal Shiite groups operating against Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

Five people killed.


And still, Reagan let in the Iranian refugees.
 
The refugees are fleeing terrorism. Cowards are trying to deny them safe haven.

France is showing more courage than these invertebrates.

Reagan showed more courage than these fainthearted alarmists.

These UnRepublicans would prefer to either exterminate the refugees or send them back to ISIS to do their work for them.

That is not America, ladies and gentlemen. That is not American exceptionalism.

And it damn sure isn't Christian.
Why would they be fleeing terrorism when they were already in Turkey, Greece, Macedonia,Serbia, Croatia, Hungary, Slovenia, and Austria?

Where would they feel safest, in the Shetland Islands perhaps? Greenland?
There are about 4 million refugees. It will take more than Turkey, Greece, etc. to absorb them all.

You know how many we approved in 2013?

36.
Do you think we have an obligation to absorb them? There are poor people all over the world, and a number of them cannot seem to assimilate and who instead seem to view the countries that gave them, or their parents, refuge from their shit holes of origin, as targets of the same inanity and violence which forced them to emigrate,

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
 
Dec. 12, 1983

Bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait

The suspects were thought to be members of Al Dawa, or "The Call," an Iranian-backed group and one of the principal Shiite groups operating against Saddam Hussein in Iraq.

Five people killed.


And still, Reagan let in the Iranian refugees.
Don';t be an asshole. The Iranians Reagan allowed in were loyal to the Shah or moderates. They were certainly not the riff raff Obama wants to welcome.
 
To a nazi, everyone else is left wing.

I'm a Reagan Republican and people like you prove every day the modern day Republican has nothing in common with Reagan. You're stupid, credulous, and cowardly.


You must be a child if you don't know about Iranian state sponsored terrorism.

Nazis are socialists, they are pretty far left. Pretty much there with you.

You're a Reagan conservative, that's comic. Like how you think Republicans moved to the right, they are left of Reagan, Holmes

And again, I say I'm not a Republican, and you insult me by calling me a Republican, while you claim to be a Republican. Where is your clown avatar? The dress fits

Nazis are about as "far left" as the Klan. Fatter o' mact they have a lot in common -- hypernationalism.... hyperreligionism.... racial purity fantasies... hypermoralistic persecution of drunks and loose women... da evil Jooos..... da evil communists..... da eebil homosexuals .. da eebil intellectuals....

Yep, that's what I call "far left" awright. :eusa_liar:

Revisionism never sleeps around here. It's like rust.

The Nazis were more aware than you, Holmes, that's why they accurately called themselves a socialist party. They believed in government control over the economy. That's as leftist as you

The "socialist" tag --- a new and trendy buzzword at the time --- was already there when Hitler joined the party around 1920. He objected to it but went along.

Do you believe Grape Nuts is made with any grapes or nuts at all?
Or that the Pennsylvania Dutch have something to do with Holland?
Pop quiz -- how many band members comprise Ten Thousand Maniacs?

DUH.

In any case all that shit I just mentioned --- class hierarchies, übernationalism, übermilitarism, appeal to past glories, denigration of minorities/immigrants/women/homosexuals/communists/intellectuals -- those don't live on the left, as even retards know.

And my name is not "Holmes". Quit looking at my dick.

Um...you seem to have the obsession with staring at your dick, Holmes.

As for Hitler, he called him self a socialist, he believed in government control over the economy. That confuses you how, exactly?
Pogo's response couldn't have been any more clear, accurate and to the point. Just goes to show, you can't dumb things down enough to fit inside the cranium of a right winger.
 
OP is Right. Contemporary rw'ers have changed

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You know, it's almost impossible to vet people with 100 percent certainty, but you can get pretty close. Of the 21,000 plus Syrian refugees that have applied to come here, only 12,000 (roughly) were approved to be put in the system, and of those approx. 12,000, only about 7,500 made it through the whole process and came here.

So yes, there IS vetting being done.

BTW, how well do you people think the military vets it's personnel when they grant them a Top Secret security clearance? It starts off with them taking down everywhere you've lived and everyone you've known for the past 10 years. I know, because I went through the process. And, they talked to damn near everyone on the list, as well as found some people that I forgot I knew. The whole process took about 8 months for my clearance to come back.

I thought it was pretty thorough, and I didn't think that anyone could sneak through the system and get a clearance if they didn't deserve it.

Later, I (as well as the rest of the Navy and the nation) saw that the vetting process for Top Secret wasn't as good as they originally thought. Google a Navy Radioman named John Walker sometime. His father and he spent years selling defense secrets to the Russians.
 
Reagan was probably the shittiest president ever. It still remains a mystery to me why people think he was great.

Remember Iran Contra? Remember when we armed Al Queda and Bin Laden so that they could fight the Russians, and then, they turned on us?

All that was Reagan.

Oh yeah, you can also thank him for starting the wealth gap in this country.
 
The Iranians Reagan let into the country were educated Persians who had lived in a secular, westernized Iran. They were fleeing a theorcracy. The ones Obama wants to let in include agents of an invading army of theocratic radicals.

I doubt you loons can understand the difference.

Syria was also a secularized society. They are fleeing a theocracy - ISIS.

They are also fleeing a statist government, a leader whose father was allied with the USSR, and whose son is allied with Russia, lead by a former KGB agent of the USSR. That son is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people, and guilty of war crimes.

There was a time when conservatives welcomed the oppressed from tyranny.

Reagan would be ashamed.
 
Remember how much we feared and hated Iranians? Iran had a revolution and took American hostages for over a year.

Iran had terrorist training camps and were sending out terrorists all over the place. Iran was behind the blowing up of the Marine barracks. Iran funded Hezbollah and Hamas which carried out terrorist attacks all over the Middle East, and particularly in Israel, a great ally of the US.

Iranians were hijacking airplanes and blowing shit up all over the place.






And then there were the Iranian refugees trying to get away from these maniacs.





Do you know what Reagan did about the refugees?

Did he shit his pants in fear? Nope.

Did he stir up the Right with anti-Muslim rhetoric and say we should not allow these refugees in? Nope.

Did he do some kind of fucked up calculus and say it wasn't worth the risk? Nope.

He let the Iranian refugees in. Because Republicans had real balls of titanium and real compassion back then.

http://www.paaia.org/CMS/Data/Sites/1/pdfs/iranian-americans---immigration-and-assimilation.pdf

Between October 1981 and February 1985, more Iranians were granted asylum — 11,055 in total — than any other nationality.

Do you see that? At the peak of our anti-Iranian sentiment, we let in more Iranian refugees than any other kind of refugees.

Now THAT is what "home of the brave" looks like, boys and girls. That is what "American exceptionalism" looks like.


Reagan's own words:
We shall continue America's tradition as a land that welcomes peoples from other countries. We shall also, with other countries, continue to share in the responsibility of welcoming and resettling those who flee oppression.

Illegal immigrants in considerable numbers have become productive members of our society and are a basic part of our work force. Those who have established equities in the United States should be recognized and accorded legal status.


I don't know who these people are today who are calling themselves Republicans. I really don't.
No one cares that your a pretend conservative who doesn't recognize other REAL conservatives.

Jake5000 or GStarkey?
 
The Iranians Reagan let into the country were educated Persians who had lived in a secular, westernized Iran. They were fleeing a theorcracy. The ones Obama wants to let in include agents of an invading army of theocratic radicals.

I doubt you loons can understand the difference.

Syria was also a secularized society. They are fleeing a theocracy - ISIS.

They are also fleeing a statist government, a leader whose father was allied with the USSR, and whose son is allied with Russia, lead by a former KGB agent of the USSR. That son is responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people, and guilty of war crimes.

There was a time when conservatives welcomed the oppressed from tyranny.

Reagan would be ashamed.

I doubt that Reagan would approve of importing jihadis with true refugees.

The real refugees are Christians and Yazidis. Let them in. They aren't the ones who have declared war on the U.S.
 
So now Reagan is a hero? :cuckoo: Make up your minds and stop using people to suit an agenda. If Reagan were POTUS he'd be taking it to ISIS....your boy is pissing down his hind leg over it
The OP tends to forget THOSE from Iran at that time were running FROM islamic tyranny. Those from Syria ARE islamic tyranny.
Just a wee different you know?
And the Iranians in the USA before the downfall of the Shah were running from the cruelty of his regime....
 
I doubt that Reagan would approve of importing jihadis with true refugees.

How do you know we are importing jihadis?

Seriously? How do you know?

The jihadis want to kill the people who are fleeing. As does the murderer Assad. That's why they are fleeing.

By your logic, we shouldn't have imported any Iranians, because how did we know that they weren't being exported by Khomeni? How did we know?

Or Cubans. How did we know that the people who came across the Straight of Florida weren't really being sent by Castro? How did we know?

We didn't.

We accepted them because they were fleeing terror, oppression and tyranny.

Reagan would be ashamed of the party now. It has become a scared, xenophobic, small party.
 
So now Reagan is a hero? :cuckoo: Make up your minds and stop using people to suit an agenda. If Reagan were POTUS he'd be taking it to ISIS....your boy is pissing down his hind leg over it
The OP tends to forget THOSE from Iran at that time were running FROM islamic tyranny. Those from Syria ARE islamic tyranny.
Just a wee different you know?
And the Iranians in the USA before the downfall of the Shah were running from the cruelty of his regime....

DarkFury214 is a complete fucking retard.

He's making broad generalizations because he thinks all Muslims are terrorists.

What a sad reflection of ignorance in this country.

It's beyond idiotic.
 
So now Reagan is a hero? :cuckoo: Make up your minds and stop using people to suit an agenda. If Reagan were POTUS he'd be taking it to ISIS....your boy is pissing down his hind leg over it
The OP tends to forget THOSE from Iran at that time were running FROM islamic tyranny. Those from Syria ARE islamic tyranny.
Just a wee different you know?
And the Iranians in the USA before the downfall of the Shah were running from the cruelty of his regime....

DarkFury214 is a complete fucking retard.

He's making broad generalizations because he thinks all Muslims are terrorists.

What a sad reflection of ignorance in this country.

It's beyond idiotic.
Ah yes, the down turn to being so intellectually superior......Eventually the idiot takes over the savant...
 

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