JakeStarkey
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Katrina and BP are only remotely comparable. How BHO handles the aftermath will be the only criteria for judgement on his action.
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How deep is the current oil disaster, bub?
How deep was the 1979 spill off the coast of Mexico?
150 feet.
BP's Gulf battle echoes monster '79 Mexico oil spill
Dude, it's fairly common knowledge that environmental regulations have pushed rigs far off-shore, with mandatory minimum miles off-coast for the rigs. That is one of the reasons they innovated with horizontal drilling, so the rig was X-miles off shore, but could get to the oil that was closer.
How deep is the current oil disaster, bub?
How deep was the 1979 spill off the coast of Mexico?
150 feet.
BP's Gulf battle echoes monster '79 Mexico oil spill
Dude, it's fairly common knowledge that environmental regulations have pushed rigs far off-shore, with mandatory minimum miles off-coast for the rigs. That is one of the reasons they innovated with horizontal drilling, so the rig was X-miles off shore, but could get to the oil that was closer.
Obama has mishandled this from the start, but it isn't exactly an everyday disaster. So I have cut him slack, but when he gets up there and after a year and a half of being in office, still is blaming the last administration after the inspectors gave BP the clear a month ago, after BP made Obama their number one recieptiant of campaign money. He is now looking like a typicial politician that snowed most the voters in 2008.
So the conservative consensus is that the oil industry is not regulated enough? That the government controls on it aren't stringent enough?
So conservatives will join others, such as the environmentalists, to push to impose much more draconian regulation, restriction, oversight, and control on the oil industry?
I'm guessing NO...
Where do you get this crap from? DO the voices in your head make you write it?
We arent discussing any regulations. What regulation would have prevented this event? None,short of total ban on deepwater drilling.
Rabbi, you are a fucking liar. Had we required that one valve that the countries that around the North Sea do, as does Brazil, it would have prevented this catastrophe.
And a total ban on offshore drilling may happen.
We are discussing Obama's response to this crisis. Which sucks. If he has been thinking about it every day, as he claimed, and things are this bad despite his paying attention, what does that say about his leadership abilities?
He could not have prevented the initial blow out. But he could have done things to mitigate the effects. And he didnt.
How many permits for shallow water drilling have been approved in recent years?
So the conservative consensus is that the oil industry is not regulated enough? That the government controls on it aren't stringent enough?
So conservatives will join others, such as the environmentalists, to push to impose much more draconian regulation, restriction, oversight, and control on the oil industry?
I'm guessing NO...
Where do you get this crap from? DO the voices in your head make you write it?
We arent discussing any regulations. What regulation would have prevented this event? None,short of total ban on deepwater drilling.
Rabbi, you are a fucking liar. Had we required that one valve that the countries that around the North Sea do, as does Brazil, it would have prevented this catastrophe.
And a total ban on offshore drilling may happen.
We are discussing Obama's response to this crisis. Which sucks. If he has been thinking about it every day, as he claimed, and things are this bad despite his paying attention, what does that say about his leadership abilities?
He could not have prevented the initial blow out. But he could have done things to mitigate the effects. And he didnt.
Really? Done what? Sand berms? What the hell are those sand berms going to stop as the storms come on?
I do happen to agree that the President could have done more. But very little will be of any avail as the hurricane season spools up. What needs done right now is for NOAA to bring in all the scientific resources they have to track the oil at every level in the Gulf, and as it moves through the Keys and up the coast.
How many permits for shallow water drilling have been approved in recent years?
I hope that the amount of permits for off shore drilling will be zero from now on. How much of this can we afford?
Obama has mishandled this from the start, but it isn't exactly an everyday disaster. So I have cut him slack, but when he gets up there and after a year and a half of being in office, still is blaming the last administration after the inspectors gave BP the clear a month ago, after BP made Obama their number one recieptiant of campaign money. He is now looking like a typicial politician that snowed most the voters in 2008.
Less than typical - as his void of experience is proving him to be even more incapable of leadership than the typical DC standard...
Where do you get this crap from? DO the voices in your head make you write it?
We arent discussing any regulations. What regulation would have prevented this event? None,short of total ban on deepwater drilling.
Rabbi, you are a fucking liar. Had we required that one valve that the countries that around the North Sea do, as does Brazil, it would have prevented this catastrophe.
And a total ban on offshore drilling may happen.
We are discussing Obama's response to this crisis. Which sucks. If he has been thinking about it every day, as he claimed, and things are this bad despite his paying attention, what does that say about his leadership abilities?
He could not have prevented the initial blow out. But he could have done things to mitigate the effects. And he didnt.
Really? Done what? Sand berms? What the hell are those sand berms going to stop as the storms come on?
I do happen to agree that the President could have done more. But very little will be of any avail as the hurricane season spools up. What needs done right now is for NOAA to bring in all the scientific resources they have to track the oil at every level in the Gulf, and as it moves through the Keys and up the coast.
The state of LA requested booms to keep the oil at bay. They are still waiting for them, afaik.
Did he form a joint task force with BP to hash out solutions? No. He was intent on scoring political points by demonizing them. Now he is opening criminal investigations. That's a good way to get people to work hard, threatening them with jail.
How many permits for shallow water drilling have been approved in recent years?
How many permits for shallow water drilling have been approved in recent years?
I hope that the amount of permits for off shore drilling will be zero from now on. How much of this can we afford?
I don't know. How much $15/gal gasoline can you afford?
I hope that the amount of permits for off shore drilling will be zero from now on. How much of this can we afford?
I don't know. How much $15/gal gasoline can you afford?
No proof for that silly statement.
Goofy, our dependence on oil, much of it from outside our borders, is a national security threat and has been for years.
How many permits for shallow water drilling have been approved in recent years?
That he is not all-powerful. Some had this notion that his simply being elected would solve all the worlds problems. It hasn't. They've gotten worse.How crafty you "conservatives" can be.....trashing Obama (who...I'm assuming...has no background in the oil-business), to deflect from YOUR Super-Capitali$t/profit$-at-ANY-co$t agenda.
Why isn't John Boner begging the oil-boys (from the last Admin) to get more-involved, to....you know....show everyone Pro-Oil-prophets ALWAYS have all-the-answers?????
Obama mentioned that he was in favor of shutting down Gulf oil production. Someone that doesn't know what they are talking about might believe this to be a good idea but it would be a disaster. Talk about nuking Louisiana's economy. Also it will not stop the Chinese from drilling in the Gulf.